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I will kill you!!!
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...and that concludes the court's explanation
of the legal aspects of this case.
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And now jentlemen of the jury I come to
my final instructions to you.
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Murder in the first degree,
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premeditated homicide is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts.
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You've listened to the testimony, you've had the law
read to you and interpreted as it applies to this case.
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It now becomes your duty to try to
separate the facts from the fancy.
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One man is dead.
The life of another is at stake.
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I urge you to deliberate thoughtfully and honestly.
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If there is a reasonable doubt, you must
bring me a verdict of not guilty.
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If however there is no reasonable doubt,
you must, in good conscience,
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find the accused guilty.
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Whatever your decision,
your verdict must be unanimous.
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In the event that
you do find the accused guilty,
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the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy.
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Bear in mind that he could face
the death penalty.
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I don't envy your job, you're faced
with a grave responsibility jentlemen, thank you.
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Can I get a couple of you jentlemen to help
me pull those two tables together please?
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Hey, get some windows open man.
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Yeah!
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- Piece of gum?
- No, thank you.
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- Bad news.
- What?
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You see the Weather Report?
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This is the hottest day of the year.
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Figures...
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You'd think they could have air-conditioned
the place, you know?
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- I don't wanna drop dead in court... Piece of gum?
- Yeah!
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OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.
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You want anything, I'll be right outside the door.
Just hit the button 'n' I'll come right in.
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Thanks.
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I never knew they locked the door.
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They always lock the door brother.
What'd you think?
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I don't know. It just never occurred to me.
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- Hey, what's that for?
- I figured we might wanna vote by ballot.
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That's a great idea. We might be able
to get this boy elected senator.
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- Well, how'd you like it?
- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.
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- Yeah? I'm falling asleep.
- What I mean is, I've never sat on a jury before.
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I've sat on juries.
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One thing that always amazes me is how these lawyers
can talk and talk, even on a case as obvious as this one.
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- I've never heard so much talk about nothin'.
- Well, I guess they're entitled.
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Oh sure, everyone's entitled to a fair trial, I'd be
the last one to say a thing against that, but...
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sometimes I think, we ought to take these tough kids
and just slap'em down, before they start trouble.
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- It would save a lot of time and money.
- Mr. Foreman, would d'ya say, we get started here?
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Yeah, let get this over with, we
probably all got things to do.
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We might as well take a five minute break.
There's a man in the bathroom.
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Are... we sitting in our own way?
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So what do you think about the case?
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I enjoyed it. No dead's bus,
you know what I mean?
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We were lucky to get a murder case.
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I figured us for an assault or a burglary
or something like that.
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These can be dull...
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Hey, can you imagine, sitting in
here for three days just for this?
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Yeah, how about that business with the knife?
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I mean, expecting normal people to
believe that kind of bullshit.
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Well you gotta expect that. You know
what you're dealing with here.
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What's the matter? You cold?
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Well, I can hardly touch my
nose, you know what I mean?
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Your horn's alright.
Try your lights.
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Ahh, this is beautiful! The air
condition that doesn't work!
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Somebody take a letter to the mayor.
Dear stingy...!
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I didn't get a chance to see the papers
today. Anything new going on?
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I was just wondering
how the market closed.
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I wouldn't know.
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You're in exchange or something?
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No, no, I'm a broker.
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Really? I run a messenger service,
The Beck and Call Company.
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My wife's idea. We employ 37
people. Started from nothing!
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Come on, Mr. Foreman, come on,
what do you say, let's go here!!!
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Alright jentlemen, let's take seats.
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This better be fast, I got two
tickets to the ball game tonight.
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Yanks and Cleveland. We've got
this new kid Modjelewski in there.
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This kid, he's a real bull, you know, I mean...
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Talking about a real jug-handled. You know?
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You quite the baseball fan, eh?
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Where do you want us to sit?
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Well, I was thinking we'd just sit
in order of jury number: 2,3,4...
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I kinda like it.
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If that's alright with you jentlemen.
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- Sure!
- What's the difference?
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I think it's reasonable to
sit according to numbers.
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What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney?
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I beg your pardon?
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I thought it was very sharp the way he handled
all his points one by one, in logical sequence.
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Takes a good brain for that,
I was very impressed.
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Yes, he did an expert job.
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They got a lot of drive these guys,
you know, real drive.
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Let's get this show on the road!
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You... you'd like to sit down?
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Jentleman at the window?
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Would you like to sit down?
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Oh... yeah, sorry!
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It's pretty tough, isn't it?
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I mean, the kid just kills his father,
bang... just like that!
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If you analyze the figures on the...
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Come on now, what figures?
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It's those people I'm telling you.
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See, they just let the kids run
wild out there.
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Maybe it serves'em right,
you know what I mean?
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Where's that elderly jentleman?
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He's in the bathroom.
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Would you knock on the door please?
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Sure.
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Thank you.
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You a Yankee fan?
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No, Milwaukee.
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Milwaukee? What, you kidding?
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It's like getting hit on the head
with a crowbar once a day!
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I mean, tell me, who they got?
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Really, I'm asking you, who they got?
Besides great grasskeepers?
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We'd like to get started here.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
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Quite alright.
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Alright jentlemen.
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You can handle this any
way you'd like to.
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I have no rules.
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We can discuss it first and
then vote, that's one way
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or we can vote and then
see where we stand.
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That's all I have to say...
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I think it's customary to
take a preliminary vote.
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Yeah, come on, let's vote!
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Then we can all go home!
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It's up to you, but let's just remember
this is a first degree murder charge.
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If we find him guilty, he
could die by lethal injection.
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Yeah, let's vote.
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Yeah, let's see who's where!
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Anyone who doesn't wanna vote?
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Let's just remember that this is gotta be
twelve to nothing either way, that's the law.
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Everyone ready?
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All those voting guilty raise your hands.
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Eleven.
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All those voting not guilty.
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One.
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Eleven-one guilty.
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Now we now where we stand.
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Well there's always one, eh?
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So what do we do now?
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I guess we... talk.
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Honestly, you really think he's innocent?
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I don't know.
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I mean, let's be reasonable here.
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You sat in the court room,
you heard everything.
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The rest of us did. This man is a
dangerous killer, you could see it.
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Man? He's 18 years old.
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He's old enough!
146
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He knifed his own father,
four inches into the chest.
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Pretty obvious. I was convinced
on the very first day.
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Sure, who wasn't?
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I really think this is one of
these open and shut things.
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I mean, they proved it a
dozen different ways.
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Would you like to
list'em for you?
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No, no, no...
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Then what DO you want?
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I just wanna talk!
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Well, what's there to talk about?
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Eleven men here agree.
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I mean, who would have to
think twice about it except you?
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Hey look, let me ask
you a question.
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Do you really believe
that boy's story?
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I don't know if I believe his
story or not, maybe I don't.
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So then, why did you
vote not guilty for?
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Look, eleven men voted guilty.
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I just don't find it easy to raise my hand
and send a boy to prison for life
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or maybe even to be executed
without talking about it first.
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Who says it's easy for me?
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Noone.
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What, because I voted fast?
168
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No.
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I honestly think the kid's guilty.
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You couldn't change my mind
if you talked a 100 years!
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I'm not trying to
change your mind.
172
00:10:01,396 --> 00:10:03,496
We're talking about a person's life here.
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We can't just decide in 5 minutes.
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Suppose we're wrong?
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00:10:08,264 --> 00:10:11,464
Suppose we're wrong! Suppose
the whole building fell on my head!
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You could suppose anything you want.
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That's right.
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00:10:14,212 --> 00:10:15,712
So then what difference does
it make how long it takes?
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If we honestly think the kid's guilty,
suppose we finish in 5 minutes, so what?
180
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Suppose we take an hour,
your game doesn't start till 8 o'clock.
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Ok slugger, be my guest.
182
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Who's got something to say?
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Not me.
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I'm willing to put in an hour.
185
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- What?
- Great! I heard a pretty good story last night...
186
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There is this woman, she goes
running into the doctor's office...
187
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Excuse me, that's not why
we are sitting in here for.
188
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Alright then, you tell me
what are we sitting here for.
189
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Well, maybe for no reason,
I don't know, but look...
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...this kid has been knocked
around all of his life,
191
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been born in a slum, he lost his mother
when he was just, what, 9...
192
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and he spent a year and a half in an orphanage,
while his old man was doing a jail term for forgery.
193
00:11:12,524 --> 00:11:13,924
That's not a very good headstart.
194
00:11:14,064 --> 00:11:16,464
He's had a rotten 18 years.
195
00:11:16,872 --> 00:11:19,972
I just think we owe that boy
a few words, that's all.
196
00:11:20,036 --> 00:11:21,736
Hey look, I don't mind
telling you this mister,
197
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but we don't owe him a thing!
198
00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:24,416
That's right!
199
00:11:24,472 --> 00:11:26,472
I mean, he had a fair trial, didn't he?
200
00:11:26,892 --> 00:11:28,592
What do you think that trial cost?
201
00:11:28,696 --> 00:11:30,196
And he was lucky he got it.
202
00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,120
We're all grown ups in here and we
heard the facts, now didn't we?
203
00:11:34,852 --> 00:11:37,352
Now you're not gonna sit there 'n' tell us
we're supposed to believe this kid
204
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knowing what he is.
205
00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,520
Look, I've lived among them all my life.
206
00:11:40,724 --> 00:11:43,424
I mean, you can't believe a word they say.
They are born liars.
207
00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:47,936
It suddenly occurs to me that
you must be an ignorant man.
208
00:11:48,828 --> 00:11:49,828
What are you talking about?
209
00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,980
You think you have a monopoly on the truth?
210
00:11:53,128 --> 00:11:56,028
Why are you making a federal case out of
this, come on man, how do you like this guy?
211
00:11:56,260 --> 00:11:58,660
I think certain things should be
pointed out to this man.
212
00:11:58,684 --> 00:12:00,684
This isn't Sunday, we don't
need a sermon in here.
213
00:12:01,156 --> 00:12:05,556
I don't see any need to argue like that, I think
we ought to be able to behave like jentlemen,
214
00:12:05,896 --> 00:12:07,596
if we're going to discuss this case.
215
00:12:07,968 --> 00:12:10,468
Maybe the jentleman who's disagreeing
down there could tell us why.
216
00:12:10,888 --> 00:12:14,288
Tell us what he thinks and we could
show him where he's probably mixed up.
217
00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,960
- What are you doing?
- Eh?
218
00:12:16,144 --> 00:12:17,144
What is that?
219
00:12:17,328 --> 00:12:20,128
It's one of the products I work
on at the ad agency: Rice Pops.
220
00:12:20,176 --> 00:12:22,676
"The breakfast with the built in bounce"
I wrote that one.
221
00:12:23,344 --> 00:12:25,044
Oh, that's where that came from.
222
00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:26,344
That's very catchy.
223
00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:27,580
Do you mind?
224
00:12:28,212 --> 00:12:32,012
I'm sorry, I just have this habit of doodling.
It keeps me focused.
225
00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,860
We're trying to do something.
We could be sitting here forever.
226
00:12:35,164 --> 00:12:39,564
No, look, look, look, I might have an idea. I mean
I'm just thinking out loud, but it seems to me
227
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that it's up to us to convince this jentleman
that we're right and he's wrong.
228
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,760
Maybe if we each took a minute or two
to explain how we feel, you know...
229
00:12:52,724 --> 00:12:56,124
- It was just a quick thought.
- No, no, no, that's good.
230
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Suppose we go once around the table.
231
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- Anything, just let start it off!
- Fine, why don't you go first?
232
00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:03,772
No, not me...
233
00:13:05,244 --> 00:13:06,844
I think we ought to go in order.
234
00:13:08,452 --> 00:13:12,352
Ok, that's fair... in order.
Two minutes a piece.
235
00:13:14,108 --> 00:13:15,808
That means you go first.
236
00:13:16,668 --> 00:13:18,968
Oh, well, um...
237
00:13:20,156 --> 00:13:25,156
Well, it's hard to put it into words...
I just think that he's guilty.
238
00:13:26,012 --> 00:13:30,612
I thought it was obvious from the word go.
Nobody proved otherwise.
239
00:13:31,112 --> 00:13:35,012
Nobody has to prove otherwise.
The burden of proof rests with the prosecution.
240
00:13:35,212 --> 00:13:36,712
The defendant doesn't even
have to open his mouth.
241
00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:43,260
I know that! What I meant was...
the man is guilty, there was a witness.
242
00:13:43,932 --> 00:13:45,732
Somebody saw him do it.
243
00:13:48,208 --> 00:13:49,608
Ok, here's what I think.
244
00:13:50,012 --> 00:13:54,112
And I have no personal feelings at all,
I'm talking facts.
245
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,920
Number one, let's take the old man who lived
on the 2nd floor directly underneath the room
246
00:14:00,044 --> 00:14:01,744
where the murder was committed.
247
00:14:01,888 --> 00:14:06,588
Now, he says that about 10 minutes
after 12 on the night of the killing
248
00:14:07,276 --> 00:14:09,476
he heard a loud noise from upstairs.
Sounded like a fight.
249
00:14:09,588 --> 00:14:13,288
And he heard the boy yell out:
"I'm going to kill you"
250
00:14:13,404 --> 00:14:17,404
A second later the body hit the floor,
he run to his appartment door, looked out,
251
00:14:17,436 --> 00:14:19,736
saw the kid running down the
stairs and out of the house.
252
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,500
He called the police and they found
the father with a knife in his chest.
253
00:14:24,632 --> 00:14:26,732
- And the coroner fixed the time
of death around midnight.
254
00:14:27,444 --> 00:14:30,944
He's right. These are facts. You can't
refute facts. This kid's guilty.
255
00:14:31,228 --> 00:14:36,128
Look, I'm as sentimental as the next guy.
I know he's only 18.
256
00:14:36,568 --> 00:14:38,568
But he's gotta pay for what he did.
257
00:14:39,136 --> 00:14:40,336
I'm with you pops.
258
00:14:40,664 --> 00:14:43,764
It was obvious to me that the
boy's entire story was flimsy.
259
00:14:44,248 --> 00:14:47,148
He claimed he was at the movies
at the time of the killing
260
00:14:47,316 --> 00:14:51,316
yet one hour later he couldn't
remember what films he saw.
261
00:14:51,540 --> 00:14:53,940
- He claims that.
- That's right. Did you hear that?
262
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,360
That's absolutely right.
263
00:14:55,624 --> 00:14:59,124
And noone saw him going
into or out of the theater.
264
00:14:59,316 --> 00:15:01,116
And what about the woman
across the street?
265
00:15:01,808 --> 00:15:03,608
If her testimony don't prove it,
nothing does.
266
00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,920
That's right, she's the one
who actually saw the killing.
267
00:15:06,528 --> 00:15:07,128
That's right.
268
00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:08,260
Come on fellas, let's go in
order here, come on.
269
00:15:08,596 --> 00:15:11,596
Now look. Here's a woman
who's lying in her bed.
270
00:15:11,732 --> 00:15:15,232
She can't sleep, dying from the
heat, you know what I mean.
271
00:15:15,732 --> 00:15:18,032
And then she looks out the window,
and right across the street
272
00:15:18,132 --> 00:15:20,732
she sees this kid stick the knife
into his father.
273
00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:23,588
It's 12.10 on the nose.
Everything fits.
274
00:15:24,544 --> 00:15:26,544
And look, she's known this boy
all of his life.
275
00:15:26,888 --> 00:15:30,488
His window is right opposite hers right across
the el tracks and she swore she saw him do it.
276
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,000
Through the windows of
a passing elevated train?
277
00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:36,732
This el train had no passengers on.
It was just being moved downtown.
278
00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,120
Lights out, remember that?
279
00:15:38,656 --> 00:15:41,956
And they proved in court that at night you can
look through the windows of a passing el train
280
00:15:42,048 --> 00:15:44,448
with the lights out and you can see
what's happening on the other side.
281
00:15:44,472 --> 00:15:45,272
Now they proved that!
282
00:15:45,284 --> 00:15:46,684
Could I ask you a question?
283
00:15:47,148 --> 00:15:47,948
Go ahead.
284
00:15:48,016 --> 00:15:52,016
You don't believe the boy.
Why do you believe the woman?
285
00:15:52,828 --> 00:15:55,428
Isn't she one of them too?
286
00:15:56,860 --> 00:15:58,560
Oh you're just a real smart
fellow, aren't you?
287
00:15:58,644 --> 00:15:59,344
Take it easy.
288
00:15:59,884 --> 00:16:01,884
- What's he so wise about? I'm telling ya...
289
00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:05,144
Alright, alright, we don't need
none of that in here.
290
00:16:07,448 --> 00:16:09,148
Now, whose turn is it?
291
00:16:11,088 --> 00:16:12,388
Alright, you're next.
292
00:16:13,776 --> 00:16:14,976
I pass.
293
00:16:15,604 --> 00:16:17,404
- What did he say?
- He passes.
294
00:16:17,452 --> 00:16:18,552
It's his priviledge.
295
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,340
How about the next jentleman?
296
00:16:23,052 --> 00:16:29,952
I don't know... I came convinced
very early in the case. Excuse me.
297
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,600
See, I'm looking for motive.
298
00:16:33,928 --> 00:16:36,828
I think it's very important. If you don't
have a motive you don't have a case, right?
299
00:16:37,928 --> 00:16:42,128
So anyway, that testimony from those people
across the hall from the kid's apartment,
300
00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:46,560
well, that's why that was so important,
301
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,640
cause didn't they say that the
father 'n' the kid had an argument
302
00:16:50,708 --> 00:16:54,908
and the kid run out sometime around 7 o'clock
that night, I could be wrong about the time...
303
00:16:54,952 --> 00:16:55,752
It was 8 o'clock.
304
00:16:55,820 --> 00:16:57,120
Yes, that's right, it was 8 o'clock.
305
00:16:57,220 --> 00:16:59,420
They heard the argument but they couldn't
tell what the argument was about.
306
00:17:00,268 --> 00:17:02,268
Then they heard the father hit the son twice
307
00:17:02,368 --> 00:17:04,968
and then later they saw the son
walk out of the appartment angrily
308
00:17:05,536 --> 00:17:07,536
...but what does it prove?
309
00:17:05,808 --> 00:17:11,408
It don't exactly prove anything, I'm just
saying it's part of the picture, that's all.
310
00:17:11,556 --> 00:17:15,056
Yeah, but you did say it revealed the motive
and that's what the prosecution said.
311
00:17:15,728 --> 00:17:17,028
To me it's a very weak motive!
312
00:17:17,092 --> 00:17:21,792
This boy has been hit so many times
that violence is a normal part of his life.
313
00:17:22,056 --> 00:17:25,156
I don't think a couple more hits in the
face would provoke him to murder.
314
00:17:26,188 --> 00:17:29,788
It may have been two hits too many.
Everyone has a breaking point.
315
00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:34,500
- Anything else?
- No.
316
00:17:36,604 --> 00:17:38,704
- How about the next jentleman?
- Me?
317
00:17:38,804 --> 00:17:40,204
I don't know...
318
00:17:40,664 --> 00:17:42,564
I mean it's practically all
been said already, you know?
319
00:17:42,712 --> 00:17:44,712
I mean we could talk about it forever.
320
00:17:44,824 --> 00:17:47,424
This kid's 0 for five.
I mean look at his record.
321
00:17:48,192 --> 00:17:50,492
At 10 he's at juvenile court, he
threw a rock at a teacher,
322
00:17:51,084 --> 00:17:53,284
at 14 he was in reform school
cause he stole a car,
323
00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:58,268
he's been arrested for muggin', he's been picked up
twice for trying to slash another teen with a knife,
324
00:17:58,756 --> 00:18:01,456
he's real good with that switchblade you know.
Everybody said that.
325
00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:03,040
This is a real fine boy.
326
00:18:03,228 --> 00:18:06,428
Ever since he was 5 years old,
his father beat him up
327
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:07,700
and he used his fists.
328
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,120
So would I. A kid like that?
329
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,100
Wouldn't you call those beatings a
motive for him to kill his father?
330
00:18:12,596 --> 00:18:15,596
I'd say it's a motive for him to be
an angry young man, I'd say that.
331
00:18:16,332 --> 00:18:18,032
These kids, the way
they are nowadays.
332
00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:21,764
They're angry, hostile.
333
00:18:21,852 --> 00:18:22,652
I mean, look at the way they talk.
334
00:18:22,784 --> 00:18:27,284
When I was at his age I called
my father "Sir", that's right!
335
00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:30,880
Ever hear a boy call his
father that anymore?
336
00:18:30,904 --> 00:18:33,004
Fathers don't seem to think
that's important anymore.
337
00:18:33,188 --> 00:18:35,488
- No? You got any kid?
- Two.
338
00:18:35,356 --> 00:18:36,856
I got one.
339
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,300
He is 32.
340
00:18:40,024 --> 00:18:42,424
We did everything in the world for
that boy that could happen.
341
00:18:43,008 --> 00:18:45,508
When he was 9 he run away from a fight,
342
00:18:45,620 --> 00:18:48,520
I saw him do it, I was so
ashamed I almost threw up.
343
00:18:48,704 --> 00:18:51,104
And I said to him right straight out, I said
"I'm gonna make a man out of you
344
00:18:51,132 --> 00:18:53,732
or I'm gonna bust you in half trying".
345
00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:56,020
I made a man out of him alright.
346
00:18:56,328 --> 00:19:01,028
When he was 16 we got into a battle,
he hit me in the face, big kid, ya know.
347
00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:06,400
I haven't seen him in 14 years.
348
00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,080
Rotten kid!
349
00:19:09,288 --> 00:19:10,988
You work your heart out...
350
00:19:12,876 --> 00:19:14,376
Well come on, let's get on with it.
351
00:19:15,152 --> 00:19:17,052
I think... I think we're
missing the point here.
352
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,420
This boy, let's say he's a product
of a filthy neighbourhood
353
00:19:20,476 --> 00:19:22,376
and a broken home, he can't help it,
354
00:19:22,496 --> 00:19:26,096
we're here to decide whether
he's guilty or innocent of murder,
355
00:19:26,288 --> 00:19:28,688
not to go into reasons why
he grew up this way.
356
00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:30,532
He was born in a slum.
357
00:19:31,048 --> 00:19:34,948
Slums are breeding grounds for
criminals, I know as a view it's no secret.
358
00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:41,376
Slum big grounds are
potential menaces to society.
359
00:19:41,436 --> 00:19:42,736
You can say that again!
360
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:45,020
Alright, kids who crawl out of these
places they're nothing but trash.
361
00:19:45,424 --> 00:19:47,624
Hey, I don't want a think in the
world to do with them, I'm telling you.
362
00:19:48,684 --> 00:19:50,384
I lived in a slum all my life!
363
00:19:51,852 --> 00:19:54,952
I nursed that trash in Harlem
hospital six nights a week.
364
00:19:55,004 --> 00:19:55,604
Hey, now, come on!
365
00:19:55,708 --> 00:19:58,408
I used to play in a backyard that was full
of garbage, maybe it still smells on me!
366
00:19:58,624 --> 00:19:59,624
Now, come on, why you got to go there...
367
00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:03,200
- Let's be reasonable, there's nothing personal...
- There is something personal!
368
00:20:03,624 --> 00:20:06,324
Now, now, let's not be so sensitive.
369
00:20:06,184 --> 00:20:08,284
This kind of sensitivity I understand.
370
00:20:08,476 --> 00:20:12,376
Alright, let's stop all this arguing,
it's just wasting time.
371
00:20:13,052 --> 00:20:14,952
Now, it's your turn, let's go.
372
00:20:15,112 --> 00:20:18,112
Me? I didn't expect a turn.
373
00:20:18,604 --> 00:20:21,904
I thought everybody was trying to convince
me, I thought that was the idea.
374
00:20:22,016 --> 00:20:23,616
Check, I forgot about that.
375
00:20:23,804 --> 00:20:27,004
I mean, what's the difference? He's the one
keeping us here, let's see what he's got to say.
376
00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:30,820
Wait a minute! We decided we're gonna do
this a certain way, let's stick to what we said.
377
00:20:30,944 --> 00:20:33,344
Come on, stop treating us like kids!
378
00:20:34,004 --> 00:20:36,604
- Kids? What are you talking about?
- Just what I said.
379
00:20:36,748 --> 00:20:39,348
What, just that I'm trying to
keep things organised here?
380
00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:44,100
Listen, you wanna do this?
You sit here!
381
00:20:44,404 --> 00:20:46,204
You take responsibility.
I'll just shut up.
382
00:20:46,336 --> 00:20:49,436
What now, why'd get so hot about it man,
why don't you just calm down up there!
383
00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:53,220
Don't tell me to calm down, here's the chair.
You keep things runnin' smooth 'n' everything.
384
00:20:53,384 --> 00:20:55,484
You think it's a snap?
Come on man Mr. Foreman,
385
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,220
let's see how great you run this show.
386
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,180
- You ever seen a thing like that before?
- Oh you think it's funny now, eh?
387
00:21:00,304 --> 00:21:01,804
Hey, this whole thing is unimportant.
388
00:21:01,972 --> 00:21:04,072
It's unimportant? What?
You wanna try it?
389
00:21:04,168 --> 00:21:05,768
No, look, you're doing a beautiful job!
390
00:21:07,468 --> 00:21:08,868
You're doing a beautiful job!
391
00:21:12,168 --> 00:21:14,568
Come on now, let's
hear from somebody.
392
00:21:14,852 --> 00:21:15,852
Excuse me jentlemen!
393
00:21:15,912 --> 00:21:18,312
If you would like to hear
how I feel about all of this,
394
00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:20,060
I'd be glad to tell you right now.
395
00:21:20,472 --> 00:21:22,072
I don't care what you gonna do!
396
00:21:22,192 --> 00:21:23,592
Oh now, he's mad, you mad?
397
00:21:24,688 --> 00:21:28,188
I don't have anything brilliant and
I already know what you all know.
398
00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:34,084
- From the testimony, the boy looks guilty.
399
00:21:34,088 --> 00:21:36,988
- You can say that again!
- Alright, now maybe he is, but,
400
00:21:38,228 --> 00:21:43,328
I spent 3 days in court listening
to that evidence build up and build up
401
00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:49,520
and everyone seemed so positive, I began
to get a peculiar feeling about this case,
402
00:21:49,632 --> 00:21:53,732
because nothing is that positive, nothing.
403
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,840
I had a bunch of questions I wanted to ask about all
these things, they mean anything or not I don't know,
404
00:21:58,944 --> 00:22:04,944
but I do know that I felt the lawyer, the
boy's lawyer, was not doing his job.
405
00:22:05,072 --> 00:22:07,472
He was letting too many
things go by, little things
406
00:22:07,516 --> 00:22:10,616
What do you mean little things?
Look, when these guys don't ask questions,
407
00:22:10,768 --> 00:22:13,568
it's because they know the answer and they
figure that they'll probably get hurt by it.
408
00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:16,320
Yeah, but it could also mean that the
lawyer is just plain stupid, couldn't it?
409
00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:18,020
Sounds like you've met my brother in law.
410
00:22:19,788 --> 00:22:22,188
Anyway... I put myself in the boy's place.
411
00:22:25,348 --> 00:22:27,648
If I was that boy, I would've
asked for another lawyer.
412
00:22:29,328 --> 00:22:31,628
I mean, if I'm on trial for my life
413
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:38,384
I would want my lawyer to take all of the prosecution's
witnesses and just tear them to shreds, or try.
414
00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:42,088
Now look, there was one
eye witness to this killing
415
00:22:42,116 --> 00:22:44,516
and someone else said that
they heard it and then
416
00:22:44,596 --> 00:22:46,296
saw the boy running out later.
417
00:22:46,724 --> 00:22:52,824
There was a lot of circumstantial evidence, but those
two witnesses where the entire case for the prosecution.
418
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,520
Suppose they were wrong!
419
00:22:55,780 --> 00:22:59,280
What do you mean suppose they were wrong?
What's the point of having witnesses at all?
420
00:22:59,644 --> 00:23:01,344
Could they be wrong?
421
00:23:02,824 --> 00:23:05,724
They took the stand under oath!
What are you trying to say?
422
00:23:05,876 --> 00:23:08,876
Well, they're people.
People make mistakes.
423
00:23:09,008 --> 00:23:10,708
Could they be wrong?
424
00:23:12,688 --> 00:23:14,388
No, I don't think so.
425
00:23:14,448 --> 00:23:15,848
Do you know so?
426
00:23:17,564 --> 00:23:19,864
Nobody could know something like that.
This isn't an exact science.
427
00:23:19,908 --> 00:23:21,208
That's right, it isn't.
428
00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,156
Let's try to get to the point.
429
00:23:23,572 --> 00:23:26,372
Let's take the knife they
found on the father's chest.
430
00:23:26,532 --> 00:23:31,832
Wait a minute! Don't you think we ought to...
Some of the people haven't had the chance to talk.
431
00:23:32,088 --> 00:23:34,888
They can talk anytime they want,
just gimme a second here, will you?
432
00:23:35,772 --> 00:23:36,672
What about that knife?
433
00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:39,940
You know the one our fine, upright boy
admitted buying the night of the murder?
434
00:23:40,028 --> 00:23:40,828
Let's talk about it.
435
00:23:40,888 --> 00:23:41,888
Yes, let's talk about it.
436
00:23:42,016 --> 00:23:45,416
As a matter of fact let's look at it again.
I'd like to see it. Mr. Foreman?
437
00:23:46,376 --> 00:23:49,476
We all know what it looks like. What are
we gonna gain by seeing it again?
438
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:50,480
He brought it up.
439
00:23:50,664 --> 00:23:53,164
The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits of evidence,
440
00:23:53,316 --> 00:23:57,816
the knife, where it was bought,
it's pretty strong evidence, don't you think?
441
00:23:57,884 --> 00:23:58,784
Yes I do.
442
00:24:01,724 --> 00:24:03,224
- We're gonna need that knife.
- OK.
443
00:24:03,248 --> 00:24:06,448
One: The boy admitted going out of his house
at 8 o'clock on the night of the murder
444
00:24:06,656 --> 00:24:10,156
after being punished several
times by his father.
445
00:24:10,228 --> 00:24:13,628
He said slapped, not punished. There's
a difference between a slap and a punish.
446
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,000
After being slapped several
times by his father.
447
00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:22,380
Two: The boy went directly to a neighbourhood
junkshop, where he bought, what do you call it?
448
00:24:22,432 --> 00:24:23,732
- Switchblade!
- Switchblade knife!
449
00:24:23,916 --> 00:24:27,916
Thank you, thank you. Three:
This wasn't what you'd call an ordinary knife.
450
00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:30,220
It had a very unusual carved handle.
451
00:24:31,212 --> 00:24:36,012
Four: The storekeeper who sold it to him
identified the knife in court and said
452
00:24:36,116 --> 00:24:39,916
it was the only one of its kind that
he had ever had in stock.
453
00:24:41,576 --> 00:24:46,476
Five: At about 8:45 the boy run into
three friends of his in front of a diner.
454
00:24:46,636 --> 00:24:47,836
Am I correct so far?
455
00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:50,480
You bet he is! Listen to this man,
he knows what he's talking about.
456
00:24:50,872 --> 00:24:55,872
The boy talked with his friends for
about an hour, leaving them at 9:45.
457
00:24:55,992 --> 00:24:58,492
During this time,
they saw the switch blade knife.
458
00:24:59,124 --> 00:25:04,024
Six: Each of them identified the death
weapon in court as that same knife.
459
00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:08,904
Seven: The boy arrived home
at about 10 o'clock.
460
00:25:09,088 --> 00:25:12,888
Now, this is where the stories offered by the
boy and the state begin to diverge slightly.
461
00:25:13,172 --> 00:25:18,672
He claims that he stayed home until 11:30
then went to one of those all-night movies,
462
00:25:18,796 --> 00:25:23,196
he returned home at about 3:50 in
the morning to find his father dead
463
00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:24,704
and himself arrested.
464
00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:27,492
Now, what happened to the switchblade knife?
465
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,220
He claims that the knife fell
through a hole in his pocket,
466
00:25:35,432 --> 00:25:39,832
sometime between 11:30 and 3:50
while he was on the street to the movie
467
00:25:39,908 --> 00:25:41,608
and that he never saw it again.
468
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,508
No! This is a tale jentlemen!
469
00:25:43,524 --> 00:25:47,324
I think it's quite clear that he never
went to the movies that night.
470
00:25:47,552 --> 00:25:52,452
Noone in the house saw him go out at 11:30.
Noone at the theatre identified him.
471
00:25:52,624 --> 00:25:55,724
He couldn't even remember the
names of the pictures he saw.
472
00:25:55,924 --> 00:25:59,224
Now... what actually happened is this.
473
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,140
The boy stayed home, had
another fight with his father,
474
00:26:02,308 --> 00:26:06,708
stabbed him to death with the knife
at about 10 minutes after 12
475
00:26:06,912 --> 00:26:08,212
and fled from the house.
476
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:11,292
He even remembered to wipe
the knife clean of fingerprints.
477
00:26:14,608 --> 00:26:15,608
Thanks man.
478
00:26:15,928 --> 00:26:17,128
Please give me the knife.
479
00:26:17,648 --> 00:26:21,448
Are you trying to tell me that the knife
fells through a hole in the boy's pocket,
480
00:26:21,624 --> 00:26:25,124
that someone picked it up off the street
where it was the boy's house,
481
00:26:25,708 --> 00:26:29,208
stabbed his father, just to be amusing?
482
00:26:29,264 --> 00:26:32,664
I'm just saying that it is possible
that the boy lost the knife
483
00:26:32,736 --> 00:26:36,136
and somebody else stabbed
his father with a similar knife.
484
00:26:36,276 --> 00:26:37,876
It's possible, that's all.
485
00:26:38,352 --> 00:26:39,552
It's possible...
486
00:26:43,512 --> 00:26:44,812
Take a look at that knife.
487
00:26:45,024 --> 00:26:46,724
I've never seen one like it.
488
00:26:46,884 --> 00:26:48,984
Neither has the storekeeper
who sold it to the boy.
489
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,700
And you're asking us to accept a
pretty incredible coincidence?
490
00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:58,720
I'm not asking you to accept anything.
I'm just saying that it's possible.
491
00:26:58,904 --> 00:27:01,304
And I say it's not possible!
492
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,200
What are you trying to do?
493
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:09,420
Who do you think you are...
494
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,820
Hey, what is this? Where
did you get that knife now?
495
00:27:12,368 --> 00:27:13,468
Where has that come from?
496
00:27:13,576 --> 00:27:15,176
Quiet, quiet, please!
497
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,300
Where did you get that knife?
498
00:27:17,728 --> 00:27:21,128
I was out walking last night,
just... thinking...
499
00:27:21,392 --> 00:27:22,792
I was in the boy's neighbourhood,
500
00:27:23,728 --> 00:27:26,628
that knife comes from a pawn shop
three blocks from his house,
501
00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:28,240
it cost 25$.
502
00:27:28,332 --> 00:27:31,032
- It's against the law to buy it.
- I broke the law.
503
00:27:31,396 --> 00:27:36,096
Listen, you pulled a pretty bright trick here,
now suppose you tell me what it proves.
504
00:27:37,244 --> 00:27:39,044
There could be ten knives like that, so what?
505
00:27:39,096 --> 00:27:40,496
There could be...
506
00:27:40,648 --> 00:27:42,248
What does that mean?
507
00:27:42,376 --> 00:27:47,276
I mean, so he got the same kind of knife, what
is that, the discovery of the age or something?
508
00:27:47,384 --> 00:27:51,984
It'd still be an incredible coincidence for another person
to have stabbed the father with the same kind of knife.
509
00:27:52,112 --> 00:27:53,812
Come on, the odds are a million to one!
510
00:27:53,964 --> 00:27:55,264
But it's possible!
511
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,160
Alright jentlemen, let's take sits.
There's no point meddling around here.
512
00:28:01,384 --> 00:28:06,084
Very interesting that he should find
a knife exactly like the one the boy bought.
513
00:28:06,556 --> 00:28:08,656
What's interesting about it?
It proves anything?
514
00:28:08,852 --> 00:28:10,752
Proves? No, no, no...
I didn't mean...
515
00:28:10,988 --> 00:28:12,888
How come the kid bought the
knife in the first place?
516
00:28:13,912 --> 00:28:14,812
Well, he claims...
517
00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:17,140
I know he claims he bought it
as a present for a friend of his,
518
00:28:17,284 --> 00:28:18,784
who was gonna give it
to him the next day,
519
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,440
because he busted the other kid's
knife dropping it off the pants!
520
00:28:22,564 --> 00:28:23,664
That's what he said.
521
00:28:25,012 --> 00:28:28,712
The friend testified in court that
the boy did break his knife.
522
00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:30,608
How long before the killing?
523
00:28:31,356 --> 00:28:32,356
Three weeks, right?
524
00:28:32,636 --> 00:28:36,936
So how come our noble lad bought this thing
an half an hour after his father smacked him
525
00:28:37,156 --> 00:28:40,756
and three and a half hours before they found
it shoved up to here into the father's chest?
526
00:28:41,016 --> 00:28:44,816
Look, he was gonna give it to his friend,
he just wanted to use it first.
527
00:28:46,696 --> 00:28:50,996
Let me ask you a question, this is
something I wanted to bring up in court.
528
00:28:51,132 --> 00:28:55,132
If the boy did buy the knife to use
on his father, how come he showed
529
00:28:55,236 --> 00:29:00,136
what was going to become the murder weapon to
three friends a couple of hours before the killing?
530
00:29:00,644 --> 00:29:01,944
All this is just talk!
531
00:29:02,072 --> 00:29:03,872
The boy lied and you know it.
532
00:29:04,064 --> 00:29:05,564
Do you think he lied?
533
00:29:05,752 --> 00:29:07,752
That's a stupid question,
damn right he lied!
534
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:09,380
And you sir?
535
00:29:09,568 --> 00:29:12,468
You don't have to ask me that, you
know my answer - he lied, yes!
536
00:29:12,648 --> 00:29:14,048
And you?
537
00:29:15,196 --> 00:29:17,696
- I think maybe...
- Maybe, wait a second!
538
00:29:17,792 --> 00:29:19,792
What are you, the kid's
lawyer or something?
539
00:29:19,832 --> 00:29:21,832
Who are you to come in here
and start cross examining us?
540
00:29:21,924 --> 00:29:24,224
Isn't this what's supposed
to happen in a jury room?
541
00:29:24,404 --> 00:29:27,204
There are still eleven of us
in here who think he's guilty.
542
00:29:27,476 --> 00:29:29,676
Yeah, I mean what'd you
think you gonna accomplish?
543
00:29:29,732 --> 00:29:31,432
You're not gonna change anybody's mind!
544
00:29:31,584 --> 00:29:33,184
You wanna be stubborn and
hang this jury? Go ahead!
545
00:29:33,804 --> 00:29:36,504
The kid'll be tried again and
found guilty, as sure as he's born.
546
00:29:36,512 --> 00:29:37,712
You're probably right!
547
00:29:38,076 --> 00:29:40,776
So then what do you wanna do about it?
We could be here all night...
548
00:29:41,132 --> 00:29:44,132
It's only one night. A boy may die.
549
00:29:44,364 --> 00:29:46,064
Oh brother!
550
00:29:46,412 --> 00:29:47,912
Anybody got a deck o'cards?
551
00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:51,404
I don't think he should joke about it.
552
00:29:51,584 --> 00:29:53,984
I don't see how all this talk about
the knife's got to do with anything.
553
00:29:54,436 --> 00:29:57,036
I mean, come on, somebody
saw that boy stab his father.
554
00:29:57,108 --> 00:29:58,208
What more do we need?
555
00:29:58,568 --> 00:30:01,868
I got three car washes out there going to
pot while we're sitting up in here talking.
556
00:30:02,308 --> 00:30:04,108
Come on, let's get done with
this so we can get outta here!
557
00:30:04,296 --> 00:30:05,896
Excuse me, but...
558
00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:08,760
...the knife was very important
to the district attorney,
559
00:30:08,832 --> 00:30:10,432
he took one whole morning with that!
560
00:30:10,788 --> 00:30:13,088
Come on, that guy was a 15th assistant
or something... What does he know?
561
00:30:13,252 --> 00:30:14,852
I think we should get on with it.
562
00:30:15,092 --> 00:30:16,892
These side arguments
only slow us up.
563
00:30:17,128 --> 00:30:18,728
Now, what about it?
564
00:30:23,572 --> 00:30:25,072
You are the only one...
565
00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,636
Jentlemen...
566
00:30:31,212 --> 00:30:33,012
I have a proposition.
567
00:30:34,252 --> 00:30:36,852
I'd like to call for another vote,
568
00:30:37,468 --> 00:30:41,068
I want you eleven men to
vote by secret written ballot
569
00:30:41,508 --> 00:30:43,308
and I will abstain.
570
00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:46,308
If all eleven of you vote guilty,
571
00:30:46,452 --> 00:30:50,552
I'm not gonna hold out - we'll go in
with a verdict to the judge right now.
572
00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:56,392
But if anyone votes not guilty,
then we stay and talk!
573
00:30:58,236 --> 00:31:02,436
And... that's all...
574
00:31:02,504 --> 00:31:05,804
I'm ready right now,
if you'll all go for it.
575
00:31:05,924 --> 00:31:07,724
Finally, you're behaving
like a reasonable man!
576
00:31:07,816 --> 00:31:09,216
Come on, let's do it!
577
00:31:09,672 --> 00:31:11,172
Anyone who doesn't agree?
578
00:31:11,364 --> 00:31:12,764
Alright, pass these along.
579
00:31:34,394 --> 00:31:35,394
Come on, today man...
580
00:31:35,544 --> 00:31:36,444
Alright...
581
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Guilty.
582
00:31:41,932 --> 00:31:42,832
Guilty.
583
00:31:45,024 --> 00:31:46,024
Guilty.
584
00:31:48,008 --> 00:31:49,008
Guilty.
585
00:31:51,056 --> 00:31:52,056
Guilty.
586
00:31:54,104 --> 00:31:55,104
Guilty.
587
00:31:57,264 --> 00:31:58,264
Guilty.
588
00:32:00,896 --> 00:32:01,896
Guilty.
589
00:32:06,848 --> 00:32:07,848
Guilty.
590
00:32:13,076 --> 00:32:14,376
Not guilty.
591
00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:20,304
Guilty.
592
00:32:22,888 --> 00:32:23,988
Well how do ya like that?
593
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:28,652
And another chap flips
his god damn wings!
594
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,440
Come on who was it?
Cause I wanna know!
595
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Excuse me! We agreed that
this would be a secret ballot.
596
00:32:33,332 --> 00:32:34,432
- Secret?
- Yeah!
597
00:32:34,512 --> 00:32:36,412
- What are you talking about?
- Secret...
598
00:32:36,672 --> 00:32:38,572
There's no secrets in the jury room...
599
00:32:39,908 --> 00:32:41,508
I know who did it...
600
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:44,280
Brother you are really something,
you know that?
601
00:32:45,836 --> 00:32:46,836
You come in here
602
00:32:47,044 --> 00:32:49,644
and you vote guilty
like everybody else
603
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,800
and then there's golden voice preacher
over here starts to tear your heart out
604
00:32:53,964 --> 00:32:59,064
with a lot of stories about a poor little boy
who just couldn't help becoming a murderer.
605
00:32:59,404 --> 00:33:00,704
So you change your vote...
606
00:33:00,788 --> 00:33:02,188
...that is the most sickening...
607
00:33:02,612 --> 00:33:04,212
Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box?
608
00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:05,860
Wait a minute, you
can't talk like that!
609
00:33:09,236 --> 00:33:10,736
Sit down!
610
00:33:11,284 --> 00:33:13,484
- He's very excitable.
- Damn right I'm excitable!
611
00:33:13,704 --> 00:33:16,804
We're trying to put a guilty man where he
belongs and somebody's telling us fairy tales
612
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:17,800
and we're listening!!!
613
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,380
- Take it easy.
- What do you mean take it easy?
614
00:33:20,836 --> 00:33:23,436
You feel like seeing a proven
murderer walking the streets?
615
00:33:24,172 --> 00:33:27,672
I'll tell you what! Let's give him his
knife back, make it easier for him!
616
00:33:27,688 --> 00:33:29,088
Alright, stop the yelling!
617
00:33:29,788 --> 00:33:31,688
Now does anyone have any other suggestions?
618
00:33:31,756 --> 00:33:33,656
Excuse me, I would like to say something.
619
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:37,780
I've always thought that in
this country a man was
620
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,540
entitled to have an unpopular opinion.
621
00:33:40,596 --> 00:33:42,196
Hey look, let's stick
to the subject, ok pal?
622
00:33:42,236 --> 00:33:44,036
Why did you switch your vote for?
623
00:33:44,316 --> 00:33:47,316
Now look... ain't none of
your fucking business...
624
00:33:47,516 --> 00:33:51,316
He didn't switch his vote, I did.
625
00:33:54,284 --> 00:33:55,684
Would you like me to tell you why?
626
00:33:55,728 --> 00:33:58,128
No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why...
627
00:33:59,232 --> 00:34:01,132
Well, I'd like to make myself clear anyway...
628
00:34:01,836 --> 00:34:02,936
If you don't mind.
629
00:34:03,088 --> 00:34:04,088
Do we have to listen to this?
630
00:34:04,104 --> 00:34:05,804
Hey look, the man wants to talk!
631
00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:08,112
Thank you!
632
00:34:10,384 --> 00:34:14,584
This jentleman has been
standing alone against us.
633
00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:18,228
He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.
634
00:34:18,536 --> 00:34:20,336
He just isn't sure.
635
00:34:21,924 --> 00:34:26,424
Well it's not easy to stand alone
against the ridicule of others...
636
00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:30,208
He gambled for support
and I gave it to him.
637
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:32,468
I respect his motives.
638
00:34:33,868 --> 00:34:36,968
The boy on trial is probably guilty.
639
00:34:37,128 --> 00:34:38,728
But I wanna hear more...
640
00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:42,088
I'm talking here!
641
00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:44,120
You have no right to just walk...
642
00:34:44,152 --> 00:34:46,452
He can't hear you. He never will.
643
00:34:46,888 --> 00:34:47,788
Sit down.
644
00:34:48,472 --> 00:34:52,072
If the speech is over,
may we go on?
645
00:34:52,608 --> 00:34:55,708
I think we ought to take a
break, there is a man inside there...
646
00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:57,892
...we should wait for him.
647
00:35:29,088 --> 00:35:33,688
Look I... was pretty excited,
you know what I mean...
648
00:35:35,612 --> 00:35:37,412
I didn't mean to get nasty or anything.
649
00:35:47,084 --> 00:35:48,084
Thank you.
650
00:35:48,436 --> 00:35:50,736
God, I wish I knew some
way we could break this up.
651
00:35:51,216 --> 00:35:54,116
You know in advertising... I told you
I work in an ad agency, didn't I?
652
00:35:55,032 --> 00:35:56,732
Well, we got some pretty
strange people down there.
653
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Well, not strange really, they
just have peculiar ways
654
00:35:59,388 --> 00:36:01,788
of expressing themselves sometimes,
you know what I mean.
655
00:36:02,148 --> 00:36:03,448
It's probably the same thing in your business.
656
00:36:03,692 --> 00:36:04,892
What is it you do?
657
00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:06,644
I'm a watch maker.
658
00:36:07,148 --> 00:36:08,148
Really?
659
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,720
Finest watchmakers in the world
come from Europe, don't they?
660
00:36:12,096 --> 00:36:13,796
Anyway! Like I was saying...
661
00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:16,364
At the ad agency, when we reach
a point like this in a meeting,
662
00:36:16,432 --> 00:36:18,632
there's always some character
ready with an idea that kills me.
663
00:36:18,784 --> 00:36:20,984
I mean it's the weirdest thing
sometimes, the way they...
664
00:36:21,036 --> 00:36:22,836
...percieve their idea with some
little phrase, you know,
665
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:24,500
like some count exec would go
666
00:36:24,588 --> 00:36:28,088
"Oh here's an idea, let's hang around the flag
pole, see if anyone sings the national anthem"
667
00:36:28,096 --> 00:36:31,896
or..."Here's an idea, let's put it on the
bus, see if it gets of at Wall Street"
668
00:36:32,548 --> 00:36:34,248
I mean, it's idiotic really, but it's funny.
669
00:36:35,428 --> 00:36:37,128
- Excuse me.
- Sure.
670
00:36:40,788 --> 00:36:42,688
So, I wonder if I can ask you a question.
671
00:36:43,756 --> 00:36:47,956
Are you one of those nation Islam guys? I only
ask cause I've never met one of you guys before.
672
00:36:49,492 --> 00:36:50,492
I was...
673
00:36:50,824 --> 00:36:53,024
But we didn't exactly see things eye
to eye, you know what I'm saying?
674
00:36:55,532 --> 00:36:56,832
Not really...
675
00:36:57,592 --> 00:37:00,292
But anyway, I was wondering
if you could do me a favour,
676
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,760
maybe take it a little easier on the old man.
677
00:37:02,852 --> 00:37:05,752
I figure once you get up that high in
years, you know, deserve a little break?
678
00:37:11,244 --> 00:37:12,344
I guess that's a no.
679
00:37:15,248 --> 00:37:17,948
- You a salesman?
- No, architect.
680
00:37:18,588 --> 00:37:20,188
- You know what a soft sell is?
- Yes...
681
00:37:20,992 --> 00:37:22,392
You're pretty good at it!
682
00:37:23,952 --> 00:37:26,152
I've got a different technique, you know?
683
00:37:26,508 --> 00:37:29,308
- Jokes, drinks, knock'em on their asses.
- Yeah...
684
00:37:29,612 --> 00:37:32,512
I made 57 thousand last year.
Selling marmalade.
685
00:37:33,052 --> 00:37:34,852
That's not bad. I mean, you know,
considerin' the marmalade.
686
00:37:42,732 --> 00:37:44,032
So what are you getting out of this?
687
00:37:44,292 --> 00:37:47,092
Kicks? The boy's guilty pal.
688
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:49,732
Why don't you let us go home
before we all get sore throats?
689
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,300
What's the difference whether you
get one here or at the ball game.
690
00:37:54,036 --> 00:37:57,936
...That's too... No difference
pal, no difference at all...
691
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,060
Nice bunch of guys!
692
00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:07,984
- Same as any... I guess.
- Yeah.
693
00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:11,204
- You know, that guy with the hat?
- Yeah.
694
00:38:11,312 --> 00:38:12,512
He's a real prince!
695
00:38:12,762 --> 00:38:15,362
And out loud every second
everyone stalks by this kid
696
00:38:15,412 --> 00:38:19,812
...the way he's talking...
is embarassing.
697
00:38:22,956 --> 00:38:24,356
Murderous day!
698
00:38:24,820 --> 00:38:26,320
Will we be much longer?
699
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,580
I don't know.
700
00:38:30,144 --> 00:38:32,144
He's guilty you know!
Not a doubt in the whole world.
701
00:38:32,604 --> 00:38:33,804
Should have been done by now!
702
00:38:35,896 --> 00:38:39,796
Not that I really care,
I mean, beats working... Right?
703
00:38:44,776 --> 00:38:46,476
You think he's innocent?
704
00:38:47,024 --> 00:38:47,824
I don't know.
705
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,600
Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.
706
00:38:53,084 --> 00:38:54,284
Better wrap it up.
707
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,140
Just waisting your time.
708
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,500
Suppose you were the one on trial.
709
00:39:03,536 --> 00:39:06,336
Well... I don't do a lot of supposing...
710
00:39:07,044 --> 00:39:08,544
You know, I'm just the working man.
711
00:39:08,612 --> 00:39:10,612
Let my boss do my supposing.
712
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:13,940
But if you want I'll try one.
713
00:39:14,508 --> 00:39:16,508
Suppose you talk us all out o' this
714
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
and that kid really did stick
that knife into his father.
715
00:39:33,988 --> 00:39:35,788
Alright jentlemen, let's take our seats.
716
00:39:36,652 --> 00:39:38,552
Looks like we'll be here for dinner.
717
00:39:38,784 --> 00:39:40,184
Let's get down to business.
718
00:39:40,552 --> 00:39:42,052
Who wants to start it off?
719
00:39:42,532 --> 00:39:46,232
- I'd like to say something...
- Be quiet...
720
00:39:47,656 --> 00:39:48,456
Excuse me!
721
00:39:48,648 --> 00:39:49,548
Number 6.
722
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:52,420
Alright, please go ahead, go ahead, please...
723
00:39:52,828 --> 00:39:54,928
This may be a small point,
but anyway...
724
00:39:55,884 --> 00:39:57,484
The boy had a motive for the killing.
725
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,160
The beatings 'n' all, right?
726
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,320
If he didn't do it, who did it?
727
00:40:01,408 --> 00:40:02,408
Who else had a motive?
728
00:40:02,528 --> 00:40:03,928
I mean, that's my point.
You don't go out and just
729
00:40:04,048 --> 00:40:06,448
kill somebody for no reason,
unless you're just plain nuts.
730
00:40:06,532 --> 00:40:09,332
As far as I can see, we're here to
determine whether or not this boy
731
00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:11,280
is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
732
00:40:11,296 --> 00:40:14,596
We're not concerned with anyone else's
motives, that's a job to the police.
733
00:40:15,144 --> 00:40:19,044
Alright... but it can't help letting the only
motive we know of creep into our thoughts.
734
00:40:19,952 --> 00:40:23,352
We can't help asking ourselves,
who else might have had a motive.
735
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
I mean, this jentleman is
asking a reasonable question:
736
00:40:26,164 --> 00:40:29,264
Somebody killed him, if it
wasn't the boy, who was it?
737
00:40:29,948 --> 00:40:31,048
Modjelewski!
738
00:40:31,092 --> 00:40:33,492
Ohhh, you're talking about the man I love!!!
739
00:40:33,752 --> 00:40:37,352
Maybe if you haven't got anything to
add besides jokes, I suggest you listen.
740
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,140
I'm sorry, I was just letting
off steam. Go ahead.
741
00:40:40,548 --> 00:40:43,848
Maybe you can answer me, who
else might have killed the father?
742
00:40:44,152 --> 00:40:45,952
Well, I don't know... I mean...
743
00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:48,136
The father was hardly
a model citizen,
744
00:40:48,176 --> 00:40:51,076
we knew that he served a prison term
745
00:40:50,552 --> 00:40:54,952
and that he was an inveterate
gambler and a consistent loser
746
00:40:55,004 --> 00:40:57,304
and he frequented all of the local bars.
747
00:40:57,324 --> 00:41:00,824
Usually after a couple of drinks
he'd get into a fight over a woman
748
00:41:00,824 --> 00:41:02,024
...I wouldn't mind telling that...
749
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:06,040
He was a mean, cruel,
primitive kind of man.
750
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,300
He couldn't even hold a job for longer
than 6 months in his entire life.
751
00:41:10,044 --> 00:41:13,244
So, hell, he could have been murdered
by anyone of the prison inmates,
752
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:17,100
or a bookmaker, or somebody he
beat up, or a woman he picked up,
753
00:41:18,372 --> 00:41:20,872
or anyone of those tough guys
that he used to hang around with.
754
00:41:20,956 --> 00:41:22,956
Look, come on man, we know
that the father was a bump,
755
00:41:23,072 --> 00:41:24,272
what's that got to do with anything?
756
00:41:24,336 --> 00:41:27,836
Well, I didn't bring this thing up, the man
asked who else might have killed the man
757
00:41:27,912 --> 00:41:29,112
and I gave an answer.
758
00:41:29,164 --> 00:41:31,764
That jentleman there asked a direct question.
759
00:41:32,228 --> 00:41:33,728
Well, everybody is a lawyer...
760
00:41:33,764 --> 00:41:35,364
Suppose you answer this for me...
761
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:38,780
The old man downstairs heard the
kid yell loud: "I'm gonna kill you".
762
00:41:38,848 --> 00:41:40,348
A split second later, the body hit the floor,
763
00:41:40,376 --> 00:41:42,076
then he saw the kid running out of the house.
764
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:43,640
Now what does all that mean to you?
765
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:46,560
I was wondering how well you could hear
that boy's voice through the ceiling.
766
00:41:46,788 --> 00:41:48,088
He didn't hear it through the ceiling.
767
00:41:48,276 --> 00:41:50,476
His window was open. The
window was open upstairs,
768
00:41:50,564 --> 00:41:51,564
it was a hot night, remember?
769
00:41:51,632 --> 00:41:56,732
The voice was from another appartment, it's very difficult
to identify a voice, let alone a voice that's shouting.
770
00:41:56,888 --> 00:41:58,188
He identified it in court.
771
00:41:58,796 --> 00:42:01,896
He picked the boy's voice out
of 5 other voices blindfolded.
772
00:42:01,904 --> 00:42:04,704
That was just an ambitious
district attorney putting on a show.
773
00:42:04,872 --> 00:42:05,672
Look...
774
00:42:05,688 --> 00:42:09,788
The old man knew the boy's voice very well.
They lived in the same house for years.
775
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:13,200
But to identify the voice positively
from another appartment...
776
00:42:13,692 --> 00:42:15,292
Isn't it possible that he was wrong?
777
00:42:15,688 --> 00:42:18,288
Isn't it possible that he thought
the boy was upstairs
778
00:42:18,308 --> 00:42:21,808
and therefore he just assumed that
the voice he heard was the boy's voice?
779
00:42:22,464 --> 00:42:23,864
I think that's a bit farfetched!
780
00:42:24,232 --> 00:42:26,432
Look, the old man heard the father's body falling.
781
00:42:26,508 --> 00:42:30,908
Then he saw the boy running out of the house
15 seconds later. Come on, he saw that boy.
782
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600
What about the woman across the street?
She looked right out into the open window,
783
00:42:33,604 --> 00:42:37,004
saw the kid stabbin' his father, I mean, come on.
Isn't that enough for you?
784
00:42:37,168 --> 00:42:39,468
- Not right now it isn't.
- Oh man!
785
00:42:39,564 --> 00:42:40,864
How do you like this guy, eh?
786
00:42:40,964 --> 00:42:42,464
It's like talking to a dead phone!
787
00:42:42,544 --> 00:42:45,944
The woman saw the kid through the
window of a moving elevated train.
788
00:42:45,952 --> 00:42:50,552
The train had 6 cars and she saw it
through the windows of the last 2 cars.
789
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:53,800
I mean, she remembered
the most significant details.
790
00:42:54,412 --> 00:42:56,812
I don't see how you can argue with that.
791
00:42:56,972 --> 00:42:58,372
What do you got to say about that?
792
00:42:59,168 --> 00:43:00,868
It doesn't seem right to me.
793
00:43:01,024 --> 00:43:02,824
Well suppose you think about it, eh?
794
00:43:07,136 --> 00:43:10,636
I wonder if there's anyone
here that has an idea
795
00:43:10,664 --> 00:43:17,364
how long it would take a 6 car el train,
travelling at, what, medium speed...
796
00:43:19,488 --> 00:43:20,588
Wait a minute!
797
00:43:20,888 --> 00:43:21,988
This is not a game!
798
00:43:22,044 --> 00:43:23,544
- Who do you think you are?
- Take it easy.
799
00:43:23,592 --> 00:43:24,592
Come on now, sit down!
800
00:43:25,268 --> 00:43:26,968
That's all we need, a fighting here!
801
00:43:27,084 --> 00:43:28,884
Did you see him?
The nerve, the absolute nerve!
802
00:43:30,996 --> 00:43:32,196
Who does he think he's dealing with here?
803
00:43:32,248 --> 00:43:34,148
Come on now, it's over.
Now let's just sit here...
804
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,440
It's not over, I want an apology!
805
00:43:35,464 --> 00:43:38,064
Alright georgie, apologise, now let's
just hear what the man's got to say.
806
00:43:38,072 --> 00:43:39,072
Thank you.
807
00:43:39,152 --> 00:43:42,152
As I was trying to say, I wonder
if anybody here has an idea
808
00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:44,180
how long it would take an el train
809
00:43:44,716 --> 00:43:48,516
to pass a given point,
going at a medium speed.
810
00:43:48,628 --> 00:43:50,128
What the hell does that
got to do with anything?
811
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Well go on, just take a guess!
812
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,620
I wouldn't have the slightest idea.
813
00:43:53,636 --> 00:43:54,436
You?
814
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,400
I don't know, 10, 12 seconds maybe...
815
00:43:56,604 --> 00:43:58,904
- What's all this for?
- Well that sounds like a pretty good guess...
816
00:43:58,952 --> 00:43:59,752
Anyone else?
817
00:43:59,864 --> 00:44:01,064
That sounds right to me.
818
00:44:01,128 --> 00:44:02,628
Come on, what are the guessing games for?
819
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,540
You, how about you?
820
00:44:03,604 --> 00:44:05,404
10 seconds, approximately.
821
00:44:05,788 --> 00:44:08,288
Alright, say 10 seconds.
What are you getting at?
822
00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:09,280
Just this!
823
00:44:09,452 --> 00:44:12,952
It takes 10 seconds for a six car
el train to pass a given point.
824
00:44:13,084 --> 00:44:17,184
Let's say that given point is the open window
of the room where the murder took place.
825
00:44:18,328 --> 00:44:22,628
You can practically reach out that window
and touch the el tracks, couldn't you?
826
00:44:22,688 --> 00:44:23,688
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
827
00:44:23,764 --> 00:44:25,464
Let me ask you another question jentlemen.
828
00:44:25,528 --> 00:44:29,828
Is there anybody here who has
ever lived next to an el line?
829
00:44:29,968 --> 00:44:32,968
I just finished painting in an
appartment over next to an el line.
830
00:44:32,968 --> 00:44:34,068
- Yeah?
- It took us three days.
831
00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:36,272
- And what was it like?
- What do you mean?
832
00:44:36,356 --> 00:44:37,256
Noisy?
833
00:44:37,528 --> 00:44:42,428
Yeah! Yeah, noisy! We were all punchy about
our business anyway, but yeah, it was noisy.
834
00:44:42,784 --> 00:44:46,284
Yeah, well. When I was very young, I
had an apartment on the second floor
835
00:44:46,384 --> 00:44:48,484
right next to an el line and I wanna tell you,
836
00:44:48,876 --> 00:44:53,176
when that window is open and the train
is roaring by, the noise is unbearable.
837
00:44:53,252 --> 00:44:54,652
You can't hear yourself think!
838
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,620
OK, you can't hear yourself think,
now will you get to the point?
839
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,340
OK, let's try and tie two pieces
of evidence together.
840
00:45:01,272 --> 00:45:05,372
No 1, the old man in the apartment downstairs,
he swears that he heard the boy say
841
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,180
"I'm gonna kill you" and then a split second later
what sounded like a body falling to the floor.
842
00:45:10,492 --> 00:45:12,892
- One second later, am I right?
- Right.
843
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,820
OK. Now the woman across the street,
she swears that she saw the stabbing
844
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:21,860
through the windows of the last two cars of an
elevated train, the last two cars, am I right?
845
00:45:21,876 --> 00:45:23,076
What are you making here?
846
00:45:23,216 --> 00:45:26,716
Alright, we agreed that it takes
10 seconds for an elevated train
847
00:45:26,748 --> 00:45:28,048
to pass a given point.
848
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:32,840
If the woman witnessed the stabbing through
the last two cars, then we must assume
849
00:45:32,912 --> 00:45:36,412
that the body fell just as the train was passing by.
850
00:45:36,648 --> 00:45:43,148
Therefore, it was roaring by the old man's window
for a full 10 seconds before the body fell.
851
00:45:43,552 --> 00:45:49,852
The old man, now, according to his own testimony,
hearing the boy say "I'm going to kill you"
852
00:45:49,908 --> 00:45:55,908
and the body falling, must have heard that statement
while the el was roaring by right under his nose!
853
00:45:56,004 --> 00:45:58,204
It's not possible that he could've heard it.
854
00:45:58,264 --> 00:45:59,864
It's idiotic! Sure he heard it!
855
00:45:59,948 --> 00:46:01,448
You really think so, eh?
856
00:46:01,772 --> 00:46:04,372
The old man said the boy yelled it
out, that's good enough for me.
857
00:46:04,384 --> 00:46:07,884
Well, whatever he heard, he couldn't have
identified the voice with that el roaring by.
858
00:46:08,072 --> 00:46:10,472
You're talking about a matter of seconds here,
nobody could be that accurate!
859
00:46:11,284 --> 00:46:18,584
Well, I'll tell ya, I think the testimony that can send
a human being to death should be that accurate!
860
00:46:24,256 --> 00:46:27,256
- I don't think he could've heard it...
- Yeah, maybe he didn't hear it with all that el noise.
861
00:46:27,268 --> 00:46:28,568
What are you people talking about?
862
00:46:28,688 --> 00:46:30,288
- Well it stands to reason.
- It's crazy!
863
00:46:30,504 --> 00:46:32,304
Why should he lie?
What's he got to gain?
864
00:46:32,688 --> 00:46:34,188
Attention, maybe.
865
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,280
You keep coming up with these bright sayings. Why
don't you sell'em to the Reader's Digest, they pay $50.
866
00:46:39,808 --> 00:46:42,108
Why do you keep talking to him like that, hah?
867
00:46:42,576 --> 00:46:45,776
No, a guy who talks like that to an old man
ought to get stepped on, know what I mean?
868
00:46:46,568 --> 00:46:48,268
You oughta have little respect!
869
00:46:49,904 --> 00:46:53,004
You go ahead, you say whatever you
want! Noone's gonna stop you!
870
00:46:53,728 --> 00:46:55,528
Why do you think the old man might lie?
871
00:46:55,888 --> 00:46:56,888
Well...
872
00:46:57,832 --> 00:47:01,832
...it's just that I looked at him for a very long time...
873
00:47:03,096 --> 00:47:05,996
The seam of his jacket was split under the arm.
874
00:47:06,596 --> 00:47:08,296
Any of you notice it?
875
00:47:09,212 --> 00:47:12,612
I mean, to come into court like that.
876
00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:22,084
He was a very old man with a torn jacket
and he walked very slowly towards the stand.
877
00:47:23,564 --> 00:47:26,964
He was dragging his left leg
and trying to hide it,
878
00:47:27,072 --> 00:47:29,272
because he was ashamed.
879
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:36,780
I think I know him better than anyone here.
880
00:47:40,256 --> 00:47:47,156
This is a quiet, frightened, insignificant
old man who's been nothing, all his life.
881
00:47:48,476 --> 00:47:51,676
Never had recognition, never seen
his name in the newspapers.
882
00:47:52,712 --> 00:47:59,012
Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.
Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
883
00:47:59,164 --> 00:48:00,264
You know...
884
00:48:00,868 --> 00:48:04,068
...that's a very sad thing, to be a nothing.
885
00:48:05,744 --> 00:48:08,444
A man like this needs to be recognised,
886
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:14,820
to be listened to, to be quoted, just
once. That's very important.
887
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:21,200
He would find it hard to recede into the background,
when there's a chance for him to become a...
888
00:48:21,248 --> 00:48:26,048
Wait a minute, wait a minute! Are you trying to tell
us that the guy would lie just to be important once?
889
00:48:26,144 --> 00:48:29,144
He wouldn't... really lie!
890
00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:32,060
But perhaps he'd make himself believe that
891
00:48:32,564 --> 00:48:35,664
he heard those words and recognised the boy's face.
892
00:48:35,688 --> 00:48:38,588
That's the most fantastic story I've heard in my life!
893
00:48:38,624 --> 00:48:40,324
How can you just make up some stuff like that?
894
00:48:40,964 --> 00:48:42,364
What do you know about it?
895
00:48:42,396 --> 00:48:43,396
Sit down!
896
00:48:43,596 --> 00:48:44,796
You sit down!
897
00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:45,860
Sit down!
898
00:48:46,072 --> 00:48:51,872
Jentlemen, let me remind you, this case is based
on a reasonable and logical progression of facts.
899
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,040
Please, let's keep it.
900
00:48:55,956 --> 00:48:59,656
Facts may be covered by the personalities
of the people who present them.
901
00:49:00,024 --> 00:49:01,424
Let's not forget that.
902
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,800
- Would anybody like a cough drop?
- Yeah, I would, thank you.
903
00:49:09,076 --> 00:49:10,276
Say what you like fellas...
904
00:49:11,052 --> 00:49:13,352
I still don't see how anybody
could think this kid's not guilty.
905
00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:16,280
There's one thing I did wanna
talk about for just a minute.
906
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:21,820
I think that we have proven that the old man
could not have heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you".
907
00:49:22,532 --> 00:49:23,332
But suppose that...
908
00:49:23,484 --> 00:49:24,284
What are you talking about, "prove"?
909
00:49:24,384 --> 00:49:26,684
You haven't proved it at all!
What are you talking about?
910
00:49:26,764 --> 00:49:29,064
But suppose he did hear it.
911
00:49:29,124 --> 00:49:33,124
I mean, how many times have we
all probably used that expression?
912
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Hundreds of times, you know!
913
00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:37,260
I could kill you for that darling, or...
914
00:49:37,372 --> 00:49:41,072
...junior, I'm gonna kill you if you
do that one more time, or...
915
00:49:41,164 --> 00:49:42,664
...kill'em Rocky, kill'em!
916
00:49:43,268 --> 00:49:46,768
You know, it's just a common everyday...
It doesn't mean we're gonna kill someone.
917
00:49:46,792 --> 00:49:48,592
Wait a minute, what are you trying to give us here?
918
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:54,000
The phrase was "I'm going to kill you" and the
kid screamed it out on the top of his lungs.
919
00:49:54,436 --> 00:49:55,536
Don't tell me he didn't mean it!
920
00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:58,680
Anybody who says something like that,
the way he said, they mean it.
921
00:49:59,084 --> 00:50:00,384
Well, gee, I...
922
00:50:00,976 --> 00:50:02,076
...I don't know...
923
00:50:03,568 --> 00:50:08,368
I remember I was arguing with this
guy that I work next to at the bank,
924
00:50:08,444 --> 00:50:11,944
so he called me an idiot, so I was yelling...
925
00:50:12,024 --> 00:50:16,024
This man is trying to get you to
believe things that just aren't so.
926
00:50:16,524 --> 00:50:19,224
The boy said "I'm going to kill you"
and he did kill him!
927
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:24,200
Do you really think that he would shout out something
like that for the whole neighbourhood to hear? I don't think
so.
928
00:50:24,244 --> 00:50:25,644
I think he's too bright for that.
929
00:50:25,908 --> 00:50:26,808
Bright?
930
00:50:26,904 --> 00:50:28,704
He's the common ignorant slob.
931
00:50:29,044 --> 00:50:33,144
- He don't even speak good english.
- He does not even speak good english.
932
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:37,460
Mr. Foreman...
933
00:50:38,812 --> 00:50:40,512
...I'd like to change my vote to not guilty.
934
00:50:40,768 --> 00:50:42,968
- Oh you got to be kidding me!
- You heard me.
935
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,100
Are you sure?
936
00:50:46,076 --> 00:50:47,076
Yes, I'm sure.
937
00:50:47,776 --> 00:50:49,776
The vote is 9 to 3 in favour of guilty.
938
00:50:50,268 --> 00:50:51,868
Well, if this isn't the livin' end!
939
00:50:52,152 --> 00:50:53,652
What are you basing it on?
940
00:50:54,056 --> 00:50:55,656
The stories this guy made up?
941
00:50:55,872 --> 00:50:58,472
I mean, this guy... he should write
for Amazing Detective Monthly.
942
00:50:58,508 --> 00:50:59,708
He'd make a fortune!
943
00:51:00,444 --> 00:51:03,344
Now listen, Milwakee, there are facts
there and their right in your face.
944
00:51:03,576 --> 00:51:05,976
And everyone of them says
"This kid killed his old man"!
945
00:51:06,876 --> 00:51:09,176
I mean, his own lawyer, knew right from
the beginning he didn't stand a chance.
946
00:51:09,216 --> 00:51:10,416
His own lawyer!
947
00:51:10,816 --> 00:51:12,016
You could see it!
948
00:51:12,196 --> 00:51:14,396
- Body, he deserves to die!
- Oh, does he?
949
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,320
For your information, it's happened in the past that
people had been convicted of murder and then executed
950
00:51:20,572 --> 00:51:24,172
and later, years later, someone comes
along and confesses to the crime.
951
00:51:24,544 --> 00:51:28,844
You see, sometimes, the facts that are
staring us in the face are wrong...
952
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:31,600
Hey listen, I'm talking to him, not to you!
953
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,140
Boy, this guy's beautiful, isn't he?
954
00:51:34,872 --> 00:51:36,872
Yeah, listen, the kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
955
00:51:37,068 --> 00:51:39,168
The lawyer presented the case, not you!
956
00:51:39,216 --> 00:51:42,416
- How come you got so much to say?
- The lawyer was court appointed!
957
00:51:43,416 --> 00:51:44,216
So what does that mean?
958
00:51:44,316 --> 00:51:45,416
It could mean a hell of a lot!
959
00:51:45,508 --> 00:51:49,708
It could mean he didn't want the case, it could mean
he resented being appointed, what's there for him?
960
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:53,560
No hope, no glory, very little chance of winning.
961
00:51:53,576 --> 00:51:56,076
Not a very promising situation for a young lawyer.
962
00:51:56,304 --> 00:52:00,704
He would have to really believe in his
client in order to put up a good fight.
963
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:03,440
As you mentioned a minute ago, he obviously didn't!
964
00:52:03,444 --> 00:52:04,444
Oh sure he didn't!
965
00:52:05,176 --> 00:52:06,176
Who the hell could?
966
00:52:06,388 --> 00:52:08,588
Except maybe god come to Earth or somebody...
967
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Come on guys, look at the time!
968
00:52:17,168 --> 00:52:18,168
Pardon me here.
969
00:52:19,272 --> 00:52:22,072
- I have some notes here... somewhere...
- Notes?
970
00:52:23,568 --> 00:52:27,668
I... would... like... to ask some questions.
971
00:52:30,056 --> 00:52:33,556
I've been listening very closely to
what this jentleman has been saying.
972
00:52:34,424 --> 00:52:36,224
He's got some very good points to make.
973
00:52:36,828 --> 00:52:41,228
Now, from what was presented at the trial,
it seems that the boy is guilty,
974
00:52:41,312 --> 00:52:42,512
but maybe if we go deeper...
975
00:52:42,604 --> 00:52:45,104
Come on, will ya?
Gee!
976
00:52:45,816 --> 00:52:47,416
I would like to ask one question.
977
00:52:49,576 --> 00:52:51,376
Now, we assumed that the boy commited murder.
978
00:52:51,724 --> 00:52:54,524
That he stabbed his father in the chest and then he run away.
979
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,380
This was at 10 minutes after 12.
980
00:52:58,736 --> 00:53:00,336
Now, how was the boy caught...
981
00:53:00,744 --> 00:53:01,744
...by the police?
982
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:05,660
He came back, at about 3 o'clock or so
983
00:53:06,556 --> 00:53:09,556
and he was caught by two detectives
in the hallway of his house.
984
00:53:09,584 --> 00:53:10,584
Come on man!
985
00:53:11,592 --> 00:53:13,092
Now my question is this...
986
00:53:14,204 --> 00:53:18,904
If he really did kill his father, why
did he come back 3 hours later?
987
00:53:21,332 --> 00:53:23,332
Would he not be afraid of being caught by the police?
988
00:53:23,912 --> 00:53:25,812
Look, he came home to get his knife.
989
00:53:26,448 --> 00:53:29,948
It's not nice to leave knives sticking
around out of people's chests!
990
00:53:30,152 --> 00:53:31,552
Yes, especially relatives.
991
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,180
- I don't see anything funny about it.
- Neither do I.
992
00:53:34,372 --> 00:53:38,972
The boy knew that there were people who could
identify the knife as the one he had just bought.
993
00:53:39,044 --> 00:53:40,544
He had to get it before the police did.
994
00:53:40,564 --> 00:53:44,164
But if he knew that the knife could be identified,
why did he leave it in the first place?
995
00:53:44,196 --> 00:53:44,996
Oh well...
996
00:53:45,156 --> 00:53:48,856
I think we can assume he run out in a
state of panic after he killed his father.
997
00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:53,620
And when he finally calmed down, he
realised that he had left the knife there.
998
00:53:53,664 --> 00:53:55,764
Then this depends on your definition of panic.
999
00:53:56,128 --> 00:54:00,128
Because he was calm enough to make sure
that there were no fingerprints on the knife.
1000
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:03,420
Now, where did his panic start and where did it end?
1001
00:54:03,496 --> 00:54:05,496
Look, you can throw all that other staff out...
1002
00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:08,220
He came home to dig out his knife and get rid of it.
1003
00:54:08,824 --> 00:54:10,424
- Three hours later?
- Sure, three hours later!
1004
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,520
If I had killed my father, I would not be coming back
three hours later, I would be afraid of the police.
1005
00:54:15,012 --> 00:54:18,012
No... I would stay away, knife or no knife!
1006
00:54:18,116 --> 00:54:20,716
Look, you voted guilty, didn't you?
What side are you on?
1007
00:54:20,968 --> 00:54:24,168
I do not have to be loyal to one side or
the other, I'm simply asking questions.
1008
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Well, look...
1009
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,080
This is just off the top of my head
but it seems to me, I mean,
1010
00:54:29,496 --> 00:54:32,196
if I were the kid and I'd, you know,
done the stabbing and all that,
1011
00:54:32,656 --> 00:54:34,356
I'd take a chance and go back for the knife.
1012
00:54:34,636 --> 00:54:38,236
I mean, he probably figured that noone's seen
him and nobody didn't discover the body yet.
1013
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:39,240
I mean, it was the middle of the night.
1014
00:54:39,292 --> 00:54:41,492
He probably figured that the body
wouldn't be found till the next day.
1015
00:54:41,568 --> 00:54:43,368
Excuse me, but that is my whole point.
1016
00:54:44,056 --> 00:54:44,756
Now...
1017
00:54:44,776 --> 00:54:48,076
The woman across the street testified
that the moment after she saw the killing,
1018
00:54:48,088 --> 00:54:49,588
that is a moment after the el train went by,
1019
00:54:50,196 --> 00:54:52,096
she screamed, then telephoned the police.
1020
00:54:52,692 --> 00:54:56,092
Now, the boy certainly must have heard the
scream and knew somebody saw something.
1021
00:54:56,816 --> 00:55:00,116
No, I do not think the boy would have
gone back if he had been the murderer.
1022
00:55:01,016 --> 00:55:01,816
Two points.
1023
00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:03,124
One...
1024
00:55:03,796 --> 00:55:06,396
In his state of panic, he may
not have heard the scream,
1025
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,600
perhaps it wasn't very loud.
1026
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:11,900
Two. If he did hear it, he may not
have connected it with his own act.
1027
00:55:12,456 --> 00:55:16,556
Remember, he lived in a neighbourhood
where screams were fairly commonplace.
1028
00:55:16,624 --> 00:55:17,724
Right! There's your answer.
1029
00:55:18,132 --> 00:55:25,232
Maybe the boy did stab his father, did not hear the screams,
run off in a panic and calmed down three hours later,
1030
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:32,340
came back to get his knife, risking being caught by the
police, maybe all of those things are so and maybe not!
1031
00:55:32,996 --> 00:55:38,296
I personally think there is enough doubt for us to wonder
if the boy was there at all when the murder took place.
1032
00:55:38,332 --> 00:55:40,132
What do you mean doubt?
What are you talking about?
1033
00:55:40,644 --> 00:55:43,044
Didn't the old man see the boy running out of the house?
1034
00:55:43,944 --> 00:55:45,244
Well, see? He's twisting the facts!
1035
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,780
I'm telling you, he's twisting them!
1036
00:55:47,252 --> 00:55:51,652
Did or didn't the old man see the boy running
out of the house at 12:10? Did he or didn't he?
1037
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:54,180
- He says he did...
- Well..."He say's he did"?
1038
00:55:54,332 --> 00:55:56,532
How do you like this?
"He says he did"...
1039
00:55:56,932 --> 00:56:00,132
Did or didn't the woman across the
street see the boy kill his father?
1040
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,440
She said she did!
1041
00:56:01,832 --> 00:56:03,732
You make it like it don't matter what people say.
1042
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:07,640
What you wanna believe, you believe,
what you don't wanna believe, so you don't!
1043
00:56:08,216 --> 00:56:09,416
What kind of way is that?
1044
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,180
And what do you think these people
get up on the witness stand for?
1045
00:56:12,592 --> 00:56:13,592
Their health?
1046
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:16,040
I'm telling you man, the facts
are being changed in here.
1047
00:56:16,116 --> 00:56:18,916
Witnesses are being doubted and there's no reason for it!
1048
00:56:18,932 --> 00:56:20,232
Witnesses can make mistakes.
1049
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,520
Yeah, when you want'em to they do!
You know what I mean?
1050
00:56:22,672 --> 00:56:24,672
Alright now, let's keep the yelling down.
1051
00:56:24,776 --> 00:56:25,576
Well you keep saying that!
1052
00:56:25,652 --> 00:56:27,052
What we need in here is a little yelling.
1053
00:56:27,108 --> 00:56:30,708
These men running off every each way.
Did hear the scream, didn't hear the scream...
1054
00:56:30,772 --> 00:56:32,172
What difference does it make?
1055
00:56:32,536 --> 00:56:33,436
Those little details!
1056
00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:35,060
You guys are missing the important stuff.
1057
00:56:35,264 --> 00:56:38,964
- I mean, all of a sudden you hear everybody...
- I would like to call for another vote.
1058
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:42,120
- I'm talking here!
- Another vote called for here, jentlemen take your sits.
1059
00:56:42,204 --> 00:56:44,604
- What are we gonna gain by voting again?
- I don't know.
1060
00:56:44,688 --> 00:56:47,088
The man asked for another vote,
we're gonna have another vote.
1061
00:56:47,728 --> 00:56:49,928
I've never seen so much time spent on nothing!
1062
00:56:50,104 --> 00:56:51,404
It only takes a second...
1063
00:56:51,516 --> 00:56:54,116
Alright, the fastest way is to
find out who's voting not guilty.
1064
00:56:54,372 --> 00:56:56,872
All those in favour of not guilty raise your hand.
1065
00:56:59,704 --> 00:57:00,504
Three...
1066
00:57:01,308 --> 00:57:02,108
...still the same.
1067
00:57:02,248 --> 00:57:04,048
Three not guilty, nine guilty.
1068
00:57:04,132 --> 00:57:05,332
So, where are we?
1069
00:57:05,532 --> 00:57:08,932
I mean, come on, we can yakety-yakety until
next Tuesday. Where is it getting us?
1070
00:57:09,024 --> 00:57:09,824
Pardon me...
1071
00:57:10,112 --> 00:57:11,712
I would like to change my vote.
1072
00:57:12,216 --> 00:57:13,516
I vote not guilty.
1073
00:57:13,908 --> 00:57:15,108
Oh brother!
1074
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:17,600
Come on now, listen, what are you talking about?
1075
00:57:18,732 --> 00:57:20,032
We're all going crazy in here!
1076
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:20,900
This kid is guilty.
1077
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,340
Why don't you pay attention to the facts?
1078
00:57:23,408 --> 00:57:24,408
Tell him, will you?
1079
00:57:24,472 --> 00:57:25,572
This is gotta be a god damn joke!
1080
00:57:26,036 --> 00:57:28,336
The vote is 8 to 4 in favour of guilty.
1081
00:57:28,432 --> 00:57:31,932
I mean, everybody's heart is starting
to bleed for this punk little kid,
1082
00:57:32,272 --> 00:57:35,372
like the president just declared "Love Your
Underpriviledged Brother Week" or something...
1083
00:57:35,372 --> 00:57:35,972
Listen to me!
1084
00:57:36,068 --> 00:57:38,268
I want you to tell me why you changed your vote.
Come on, give me reasons!
1085
00:57:38,284 --> 00:57:42,884
I do not have to defend myself to you.
I now have reasonable doubt.
1086
00:57:42,984 --> 00:57:44,784
"Reasonable doubt"...
That's nothing but words!
1087
00:57:45,008 --> 00:57:46,308
Look at the knife!
1088
00:57:46,376 --> 00:57:50,676
The kid you just decided is not guilty was
seen ramming that thing into his father.
1089
00:57:50,704 --> 00:57:53,404
Well, look at it, Mr. "Reasonable Doubt"!
1090
00:57:53,912 --> 00:57:54,912
That's not the knife...
1091
00:57:56,204 --> 00:57:57,304
...don't you remember?
1092
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,460
Brilliant!
1093
00:58:00,648 --> 00:58:01,848
You know this is the craziest...
1094
00:58:02,496 --> 00:58:04,796
I mean, you're pulling stories out of thin air.
1095
00:58:04,896 --> 00:58:06,496
What are we supposed to believe?
1096
00:58:07,544 --> 00:58:13,144
I'm telling you, if this guy was sitting ringside at the
Tyson Holyfield fight, he'd be trying to tell us Tyson won!
1097
00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,868
Look, what about the old man, eh?
1098
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,480
Are we supposed to believe that he didn't get up and run
to his front door and see that kid tearing down the stairs,
1099
00:58:20,844 --> 00:58:22,344
15 seconds after the killing?
1100
00:58:22,692 --> 00:58:24,992
He's only saying it so he can be important, right?
1101
00:58:25,328 --> 00:58:27,528
- I mean, what's the point of this...
- Wait... wait a second, wait a second!
1102
00:58:27,688 --> 00:58:32,088
The Milwakee rooter is heard from and pop-ups
are fallin' for base hits wherever we look at.
1103
00:58:32,448 --> 00:58:34,048
Did the old man say he run to the door?
1104
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,300
Run, walked, what's the difference?
He got there!
1105
00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:37,204
He said he run.
1106
00:58:37,884 --> 00:58:40,184
I don't remember what he said,
but I don't see how he could run!
1107
00:58:40,368 --> 00:58:44,268
He said he run, he run from his bedroom
to the front door. That's enough, isn't it?
1108
00:58:44,336 --> 00:58:46,336
Where exactly was that bedroom again?
1109
00:58:46,428 --> 00:58:48,628
It was down in the hall somewhere.
You don't remember that?
1110
00:58:49,288 --> 00:58:51,088
- No...
- I thought you remembered everything!
1111
00:58:51,568 --> 00:58:54,468
Mr. Foreman, I'd like to see a diagram
of the apartment again please.
1112
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,980
Why don't we run the trial over just to
see if we can get everything straight...
1113
00:58:57,044 --> 00:58:58,244
- Mr. Foreman...
- I heard you.
1114
00:58:58,284 --> 00:58:59,284
What's all this for?
1115
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,120
How come you're the only one in the room
who wants to see exhibits all the time.
1116
00:59:02,192 --> 00:59:03,192
I wanna see this one too!
1117
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,600
And I wanna stop wasting time...
1118
00:59:04,636 --> 00:59:08,636
If we are going to start wading through all this business
about where the body was found, then we can...
1119
00:59:08,684 --> 00:59:09,484
No, we're not!
1120
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,560
I just wanna find out if a man who limps
because he had a stroke a year ago,
1121
00:59:12,648 --> 00:59:15,048
can get from his bed to his front door in 15 seconds.
1122
00:59:15,056 --> 00:59:16,556
He said 20 seconds...
1123
00:59:16,656 --> 00:59:19,256
- 15!
- I'm telling you he said 20. Why do you always distort him?
1124
00:59:19,352 --> 00:59:20,352
He said 15...
1125
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:22,520
How does he know how long 15 seconds is?
1126
00:59:22,608 --> 00:59:23,708
You can't judge a thing like that!
1127
00:59:23,832 --> 00:59:27,532
He said 15 seconds. He
was very positive about it.
1128
00:59:27,616 --> 00:59:30,516
He's an old man, you saw him.
Half the time he was confused!
1129
00:59:30,612 --> 00:59:33,112
How could he be positive ab... about anything?
1130
00:59:33,624 --> 00:59:35,424
I don't see what we're going to prove here.
1131
00:59:35,968 --> 00:59:39,268
The man said he saw the boy running
out, that's what he said to us.
1132
00:59:39,316 --> 00:59:41,116
Well, let's see if the details bear him out.
1133
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,740
Now, the minute the body fell,
the old man says he heard footsteps
1134
00:59:44,808 --> 00:59:46,608
running towards the front door upstairs.
1135
00:59:46,996 --> 00:59:51,096
Then he heard that upstairs door open and
the footsteps continued down the stairway.
1136
00:59:51,308 --> 00:59:55,708
He got to his front door as fast as he could, swears
it couldn't have been more than 15 seconds,
1137
00:59:56,532 --> 00:59:59,632
- Now if the killer started to run immediately...
- Well, maybe he didn't!
1138
01:00:00,168 --> 01:00:01,268
The old man says he did.
1139
01:00:01,272 --> 01:00:04,172
You oughta be down at Atlantic City
at the hair-splitters' convention.
1140
01:00:04,688 --> 01:00:07,288
Hey baseball, why don't you stop with
the smart remarks all the time?
1141
01:00:08,112 --> 01:00:11,512
Oh my friend, for your $15 a day
you gotta listen to everything.
1142
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,400
Ok, now you got that thing in here...
...what about it?
1143
01:00:14,332 --> 01:00:15,232
May I?
1144
01:00:17,168 --> 01:00:20,568
Ok, this is the apartment where the killing took place.
1145
01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:24,680
The old man's apartment is exactly
like it, directly underneath.
1146
01:00:25,184 --> 01:00:26,384
Now, here's the el line,
1147
01:00:27,432 --> 01:00:30,232
here's the bedroom, living room,
the kitchen and the bath,
1148
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,580
here's the hallway and way down there is the front door
to the apartment and here are the steps that go down.
1149
01:00:38,052 --> 01:00:40,652
Now, the old man was in bed in this room.
1150
01:00:41,232 --> 01:00:43,332
He says he got up, he went into the hall,
1151
01:00:43,832 --> 01:00:46,132
went all the way down the hall, opened the front door,
1152
01:00:46,208 --> 01:00:50,208
just in time to see the boy racing down the stairs.
1153
01:00:50,584 --> 01:00:51,384
Am I right?
1154
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,240
That's the story... for the 19th time!
1155
01:00:53,496 --> 01:00:56,096
15 seconds after he heard the body fall.
1156
01:00:56,424 --> 01:00:57,124
Correct...
1157
01:00:57,244 --> 01:00:58,844
The old man's bed was by the window.
1158
01:00:59,228 --> 01:01:04,028
That means he had to walk... 12 feet
from the bed to the bedroom door
1159
01:01:04,128 --> 01:01:09,728
and the hall is... 43 feet 6 inches...
down to the front door.
1160
01:01:09,852 --> 01:01:14,752
That means that he had to get up, get out of
bed, walk 12 feet, open the bedroom door,
1161
01:01:14,856 --> 01:01:19,156
walk 43 feet and open the front door to his apartment,
1162
01:01:19,304 --> 01:01:21,004
all in 15 seconds...
1163
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,360
Does anyone think he could have done it?
1164
01:01:22,388 --> 01:01:24,488
- Sure he could have done it!
- He can only walk very slowly...
1165
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,500
There they helped him to the witness chair...
1166
01:01:26,592 --> 01:01:28,392
You make it sound like a long walk!
It's not!
1167
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,240
For an old man who's had a stroke...
it's a long walk!
1168
01:01:34,136 --> 01:01:34,836
What are you doing?
1169
01:01:35,056 --> 01:01:36,956
I wanna set this up, see how long it took him.
1170
01:01:37,048 --> 01:01:40,248
What do you mean you wanna set this up?
Why didn't the kid's lawyer bring it up if it's so important?
1171
01:01:40,284 --> 01:01:41,484
Maybe he just didn't think of it!
1172
01:01:41,804 --> 01:01:44,304
What do you mean he didn't think of it?
Do you think the guy's an idiot or something?
1173
01:01:44,612 --> 01:01:46,412
- It's an obvious thing, isn't it?
- Did you think of it?
1174
01:01:46,468 --> 01:01:48,768
Look smart guy, don't matter what,
I thought of it over the night.
1175
01:01:48,808 --> 01:01:50,408
Alright, let's calm it down.
1176
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,120
He didn't bring it up cause he thought
it was gonna hurt his case.
1177
01:01:52,180 --> 01:01:55,480
Wait a minute! Maybe he didn't bring
it up because it would seem as if
1178
01:01:55,576 --> 01:01:59,676
he was badgering and pressuring a helpless
old man, which does not sit well with a jury,
1179
01:01:59,816 --> 01:02:02,316
lawyers try to avoid that sort of thing if they can...
1180
01:02:02,584 --> 01:02:03,884
What kind of bum is he then?
1181
01:02:04,264 --> 01:02:05,664
That's exactly what I've been asking!
1182
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Now, let's say this is the old man's bed.
1183
01:02:07,748 --> 01:02:10,648
First, I'm gonna pace off 12 feet,
that's the length of the bedroom.
1184
01:02:10,832 --> 01:02:14,232
You're crazy! You can't
recreate a thing like that!
1185
01:02:16,528 --> 01:02:18,828
You wanna do me a favour?
Could you hand me that chair?
1186
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,980
Put it right here...
This is the bedroom door.
1187
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,840
Now the hallway was... what? It was 43 feet.
1188
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,580
Well, I'll pace over to that wall and
then back around this way again.
1189
01:02:30,704 --> 01:02:34,304
This is absolutely insane! What's the
idea behind wasting everybody's time with this?
1190
01:02:34,748 --> 01:02:38,448
...11... 12... Look, it's only gonna
take 15 seconds according to you!
1191
01:02:48,876 --> 01:02:51,076
...40... 41... 42... 43.
1192
01:02:51,984 --> 01:02:53,484
If you would... thank you very much!
1193
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,260
This is the doorway out into
the hall and the stairway going down.
1194
01:02:57,968 --> 01:02:59,868
It was chain locked according to testimony.
1195
01:02:59,916 --> 01:03:02,216
Now, does anybody here got
a second hand on their watch?
1196
01:03:02,296 --> 01:03:02,996
I have.
1197
01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:08,480
Alright. Will you just stamp your foot when
you want me to go, that'll be the body falling, alright?
1198
01:03:08,504 --> 01:03:09,504
Time me from then.
1199
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,860
Anybody for charades?
1200
01:03:10,948 --> 01:03:13,748
- I've never seen anything like this in my whole...
- Alright, I'm ready.
1201
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:15,600
Come on, come on, won't you?
1202
01:03:15,636 --> 01:03:17,736
I'm waiting for the second hand to reach sixty.
1203
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:19,980
Go!
1204
01:03:25,984 --> 01:03:28,384
Oh come on, step it up, he
walked twice as fast as that!
1205
01:03:28,388 --> 01:03:29,188
That's too slow!
1206
01:03:29,232 --> 01:03:32,832
- That's how he walked, he walked like an old man!
...what will this kid's stuff do?
1207
01:03:33,664 --> 01:03:35,564
- No. That's too slow...
...that's the way he walked.
1208
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,040
You want me to walk faster?
Alright, I'll walk faster.
1209
01:03:48,748 --> 01:03:51,548
- This is a trial for murder!
- Relax, will ya? Jeez!
1210
01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:00,636
Time!
1211
01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:03,812
Exactly 42 seconds!
1212
01:04:04,312 --> 01:04:05,612
42 seconds?
1213
01:04:06,224 --> 01:04:07,524
42 seconds.
1214
01:04:09,020 --> 01:04:10,420
Here's what I think happened.
1215
01:04:11,324 --> 01:04:14,824
I think the old man heard the fight
between the boy and his father earlier
1216
01:04:14,884 --> 01:04:17,284
and then a couple of hours later, lying in bed,
1217
01:04:17,608 --> 01:04:19,908
he heard the body hit the
floor at the boy's apartment
1218
01:04:19,976 --> 01:04:22,176
and heard the woman scream across the street.
1219
01:04:23,016 --> 01:04:24,416
He tried to get to the front door.
1220
01:04:24,496 --> 01:04:28,796
He heard someone running down the
stairs and he assumed that it was the boy.
1221
01:04:30,196 --> 01:04:31,296
I think that's possible.
1222
01:04:31,364 --> 01:04:32,264
Assumed?
1223
01:04:33,336 --> 01:04:34,636
Now listen to me people!
1224
01:04:35,660 --> 01:04:39,360
I've heard all kinds of dishonesty
in my day, but this little display...
1225
01:04:39,528 --> 01:04:41,128
...takes the cake! You come in here,
1226
01:04:41,728 --> 01:04:45,428
with your sanctimonious talk
about slum kids and injustice
1227
01:04:45,844 --> 01:04:47,644
and you make up a lot of wild stories
1228
01:04:47,932 --> 01:04:51,032
and all of a sudden you're gettin' through
to some of these little old ladies in here.
1229
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,100
But you're not getting through to me!
I've had enough!
1230
01:04:53,548 --> 01:04:55,048
What is the matter with you people?
1231
01:04:55,528 --> 01:04:58,228
Everyone of you knows he's guilty! He's got to burn!
1232
01:04:59,056 --> 01:05:00,756
We'll let him slip through our fingers!
1233
01:05:00,804 --> 01:05:03,504
"...let him slip through our fingers..."
What are you, his executioner?
1234
01:05:03,524 --> 01:05:04,324
I'm one of them!
1235
01:05:04,412 --> 01:05:05,612
Maybe you'd like to put the needle in!
1236
01:05:05,888 --> 01:05:06,988
For this kid? You bet I would!
1237
01:05:07,004 --> 01:05:08,504
God, I'm sorry for you...
1238
01:05:08,576 --> 01:05:09,576
Don't start with me now!
1239
01:05:09,608 --> 01:05:13,908
Ever since we've walked into this room, you've
acted like a self-appointed public avenger.
1240
01:05:14,172 --> 01:05:15,072
Shut up!
1241
01:05:15,252 --> 01:05:19,752
You want the boy to die for your own
personal reasons, not because of the facts!
1242
01:05:22,312 --> 01:05:23,212
You're a sadist!
1243
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,580
I'll kill him!
I'll kill him!
1244
01:05:24,644 --> 01:05:26,644
You don't really mean you'll kill me, do you?
1245
01:05:31,892 --> 01:05:33,192
What the hell's going on here?
1246
01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:34,788
Nothing.
1247
01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:38,320
Just a little argument, everything's
fine brother, everything is...
1248
01:05:39,324 --> 01:05:40,124
...fine.
1249
01:05:40,728 --> 01:05:42,428
Just... things just got a little heated.
1250
01:05:44,184 --> 01:05:45,184
Thank you.
1251
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:52,640
What are you staring at?
1252
01:06:04,180 --> 01:06:07,080
Well, I suppose we need someone
else to start this off again, eh?
1253
01:06:07,212 --> 01:06:08,412
It's getting late.
1254
01:06:08,508 --> 01:06:11,008
What do they do?
Take us out to a restaurant or something?
1255
01:06:11,512 --> 01:06:12,412
I don't know.
1256
01:06:12,832 --> 01:06:15,932
I sure hope they let us go home in
case we don't finish this case tonight.
1257
01:06:16,468 --> 01:06:18,768
My little grandson has the
mumps, face up to here,
1258
01:06:18,996 --> 01:06:21,596
my wife says he looks like Fat Albo...
1259
01:06:23,948 --> 01:06:25,648
Well, look guys,
1260
01:06:25,656 --> 01:06:29,056
if noone else has any ideas, I might
have a cute one here, I mean...
1261
01:06:29,188 --> 01:06:33,788
...I ain't putting my stock into it, but let me throw it out
in the stoop, see if the cat licks it up, what do you say?
1262
01:06:34,856 --> 01:06:36,056
"...the cat licks it up"
1263
01:06:37,408 --> 01:06:38,508
Yeah... it's an expression...
1264
01:06:41,128 --> 01:06:42,728
It wasn't much of an idea really...
1265
01:06:48,156 --> 01:06:49,656
Look how dark it's getting there.
1266
01:06:50,632 --> 01:06:51,732
We're gonna have a storm.
1267
01:06:52,436 --> 01:06:54,836
- Well...
- Boy, it's hot!
1268
01:06:58,340 --> 01:06:59,340
Don't you sweat?
1269
01:06:59,828 --> 01:07:01,828
No, no, I don't...
1270
01:07:02,932 --> 01:07:03,932
I don't either.
1271
01:07:07,276 --> 01:07:09,976
Well, listen! I'm wondering...
maybe we could take another vote.
1272
01:07:10,450 --> 01:07:13,562
Yeah... Maybe we can follow this one
up with dancing and refreshments!
1273
01:07:14,335 --> 01:07:16,528
- Mr. Foreman...
- Alright with me.
1274
01:07:16,919 --> 01:07:17,933
Anyone who doesn't wanna vote?
1275
01:07:19,094 --> 01:07:23,833
I think we should have an open ballot.
Call out your votes, see who stands where.
1276
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,289
Alright... The last vote was 8 to 4 in favour of guilty.
1277
01:07:28,631 --> 01:07:31,004
I'll just call out your jury numbers.
1278
01:07:31,357 --> 01:07:33,277
I vote guilty. Number 2?
1279
01:07:35,747 --> 01:07:36,652
Not guilty.
1280
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,600
Number 3?
1281
01:07:39,972 --> 01:07:40,872
Guilty.
1282
01:07:41,868 --> 01:07:43,168
- Number 4?
- Guilty.
1283
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,900
Number 5...
1284
01:07:45,196 --> 01:07:46,096
Not guilty.
1285
01:07:47,532 --> 01:07:48,432
Number 6...
1286
01:07:50,668 --> 01:07:51,668
Not guilty.
1287
01:07:53,796 --> 01:07:54,696
Number 7...
1288
01:07:56,164 --> 01:07:57,064
Guilty.
1289
01:07:57,992 --> 01:07:58,792
Number 8...
1290
01:07:59,044 --> 01:08:00,144
Not guilty.
1291
01:08:00,972 --> 01:08:02,472
- Number 9...
- Not guilty.
1292
01:08:03,872 --> 01:08:04,672
Number 10...
1293
01:08:04,768 --> 01:08:06,268
He's guilty brother.
1294
01:08:07,264 --> 01:08:08,264
Number 11...
1295
01:08:08,484 --> 01:08:09,384
Not guilty.
1296
01:08:10,468 --> 01:08:11,368
Number 12...
1297
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:14,760
Guilty.
1298
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,400
6 to 6.
1299
01:08:21,084 --> 01:08:23,284
And we go into extra innings here.
1300
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,400
6 to 6!
1301
01:08:24,906 --> 01:08:28,408
Well, I'm telling you, some of you people
have lost your damn minds! A kid like that!
1302
01:08:29,312 --> 01:08:32,012
I don't think the kind of boy
has anything to do with it.
1303
01:08:32,836 --> 01:08:34,836
The facts are supposed to determine the case.
1304
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,420
Oh, don't give me any of that "facts"!
1305
01:08:36,596 --> 01:08:37,596
I'm sick and tired of facts!
1306
01:08:37,816 --> 01:08:38,816
Twist'em any way you want to!
1307
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:39,920
Facts! Facts!
1308
01:08:42,126 --> 01:08:46,244
That's... That's exactly the point that
this jentleman has been making!
1309
01:08:46,683 --> 01:08:52,562
You... You keep shouting at the top of your lungs as
though that were some sort of solution, I mean...
1310
01:08:56,886 --> 01:08:58,865
I just wish I was a little younger...
1311
01:09:00,696 --> 01:09:04,001
- It's gonna rain.
- No! How did you figure that out?
1312
01:09:06,786 --> 01:09:07,883
How come you switched?
1313
01:09:08,544 --> 01:09:09,444
Well, it just seemed...
1314
01:09:09,472 --> 01:09:11,172
You haven't got a leg to stand on, don't you?
1315
01:09:11,624 --> 01:09:12,924
I don't feel that way.
1316
01:09:13,436 --> 01:09:15,836
- There were a lot of details that didn't come out.
- Details?
1317
01:09:16,219 --> 01:09:20,290
Look, you just let yourself to get bulldozed by
a bunch of these old white washed intellectuals.
1318
01:09:20,380 --> 01:09:21,780
- That's not so!
- Oh come on, this is me!
1319
01:09:22,531 --> 01:09:26,268
You're just like some other folks your age, you're scared
of the white man! They say something, you get low...
1320
01:09:26,356 --> 01:09:27,356
Hey you, listen!
1321
01:09:28,192 --> 01:09:30,592
...you make stuff I said!
- You have no right to...
1322
01:09:32,380 --> 01:09:33,380
You... loudmouth!
1323
01:09:34,924 --> 01:09:36,524
- Oh oh! Here it comes!
- Look at that.
1324
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,760
Get that window, come on!
1325
01:09:43,176 --> 01:09:44,776
What's with this window here?
1326
01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:57,140
Let's try to get this air conditioning
working in here, what do you say, eh?
1327
01:10:00,452 --> 01:10:01,952
Hey! Look at this!
1328
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,440
Hey, it must have been connected to the light switch, eh?
1329
01:10:14,324 --> 01:10:15,324
Some rain, eh?
1330
01:10:19,128 --> 01:10:21,028
And what about this thing - even Steven...
1331
01:10:22,112 --> 01:10:23,512
Kinda surprising, isn't it?
1332
01:10:23,772 --> 01:10:24,672
Yeah, yeah...
1333
01:10:25,952 --> 01:10:28,452
You know, that business before,
when that guy was baiting me...
1334
01:10:30,056 --> 01:10:32,956
That doesn't prove anything!
I'm a very excitable person, I mean...
1335
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:38,100
Where does he come off calling me a public
avenger and a sadist and everything?
1336
01:10:38,776 --> 01:10:41,276
Anybody in his right mind
would've blown his stack, right?
1337
01:10:41,884 --> 01:10:43,684
He... was just tryin' to bait me.
1338
01:10:44,172 --> 01:10:45,472
He did an excellent job.
1339
01:10:47,908 --> 01:10:49,208
Man, look at it go...
1340
01:10:52,144 --> 01:10:53,544
You know, it reminds me of the...
1341
01:10:54,016 --> 01:10:56,316
...city championships three years ago.
1342
01:10:58,260 --> 01:10:59,260
What a game!
1343
01:11:01,628 --> 01:11:04,828
Score was tie, 21-21, it could've gone out of the way...
1344
01:11:05,516 --> 01:11:07,516
We had this young brother Yelder.
1345
01:11:07,728 --> 01:11:08,628
Great kid.
1346
01:11:09,056 --> 01:11:11,656
Quiet, respectful, wiry,
1347
01:11:12,136 --> 01:11:14,236
but he could shake you out of your shoes!
1348
01:11:16,504 --> 01:11:17,504
Nobody could touch him.
1349
01:11:18,176 --> 01:11:19,876
I'm the football coach over at Bay Side.
1350
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,160
These gaps he just started to have around him,
1351
01:11:23,928 --> 01:11:26,828
the refs said they requested
the game just to see him play.
1352
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:29,300
He was renowned... I mean... I...
1353
01:11:30,336 --> 01:11:31,836
I'd built the whole team around him.
1354
01:11:32,016 --> 01:11:33,227
I knew better, but I...
1355
01:11:35,310 --> 01:11:36,147
...but I loved the kid.
1356
01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:40,860
We came out at half time and it...
1357
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,407
...already began pouring.
1358
01:11:43,335 --> 01:11:45,346
Now, at the 4rth quarter the field was mud bath!
1359
01:11:45,736 --> 01:11:47,636
Yelder of course, he couldn't get to sweating.
1360
01:11:47,668 --> 01:11:53,268
He sat scatback and there it was a big fullback that's
rammed down our throats and... won the game.
1361
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,160
But, you know...
1362
01:11:56,432 --> 01:11:57,632
I'll always remember...
1363
01:11:58,540 --> 01:11:59,740
Yelder after the game...
1364
01:12:02,069 --> 01:12:03,275
sitting on the bench...
1365
01:12:04,744 --> 01:12:05,758
still in his uniform...
1366
01:12:10,227 --> 01:12:14,024
staring off into... space.
1367
01:12:19,352 --> 01:12:22,635
His... broken heart!
1368
01:12:38,337 --> 01:12:41,447
Isn't that the dumbest thing you ever saw?
6 to 6!
1369
01:12:42,184 --> 01:12:42,984
It's a joke!
1370
01:12:43,516 --> 01:12:45,516
What are we gonna do about it?
Can we break it somehow?
1371
01:12:46,073 --> 01:12:48,278
Yeah, well, six fools in there aren't
gonna change their minds...
1372
01:12:48,448 --> 01:12:52,748
I thought they already have changed their mind.
There's no reason why they can't be persuaded to do it again.
1373
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:53,840
And how?
1374
01:12:53,992 --> 01:12:56,092
Just by using logic!
1375
01:12:56,824 --> 01:12:57,624
Yeah, logic, eh?
1376
01:12:58,072 --> 01:13:00,614
You listen to this man, he's the
only one in the room who knows.
1377
01:13:00,996 --> 01:13:01,996
Hey, you want my opinion?
1378
01:13:02,632 --> 01:13:03,332
Go ahead.
1379
01:13:03,588 --> 01:13:04,688
I think we should just quit.
1380
01:13:05,504 --> 01:13:06,704
What are you talking about?
1381
01:13:07,172 --> 01:13:09,272
I mean, come on, these six people in there,
1382
01:13:09,724 --> 01:13:11,916
all of a sudden they act like it's
some kind of mission or something.
1383
01:13:12,352 --> 01:13:15,652
I mean, come on, they're not gonna switch.
Let's just go to the judge or we'll be here all night.
1384
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:17,070
Let's just go and tell her that we're hung.
1385
01:13:17,176 --> 01:13:18,176
To hell with this!
1386
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,620
What am I supposed to do?
Break my brain over some... scum like that?
1387
01:13:21,512 --> 01:13:23,512
You took an oath in the courtroom!
1388
01:13:23,832 --> 01:13:24,732
You can't just quit.
1389
01:13:24,928 --> 01:13:25,728
Why not?
1390
01:13:26,172 --> 01:13:27,072
It's dishonest!
1391
01:13:27,344 --> 01:13:28,644
Why don't you just vote not guilty?
1392
01:13:28,752 --> 01:13:30,738
No, I voted guilty cause I think he's guilty!
1393
01:13:30,836 --> 01:13:33,384
- But you don't care about what happens to him!
- No, why should I?
1394
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,889
Stop this! We're not going
to get anywhere like this.
1395
01:13:35,996 --> 01:13:37,996
I mean, come on, what does he want?
I gave him an honest opinion.
1396
01:13:38,092 --> 01:13:38,792
I know.
1397
01:13:39,892 --> 01:13:40,992
Oh, I suppose you don't think much of it...
1398
01:13:41,456 --> 01:13:42,456
No, I don't!
1399
01:13:45,752 --> 01:13:47,452
How about him?
Is that something?
1400
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,160
Ah well, a hung jury doesn't mean anything.
1401
01:13:50,804 --> 01:13:53,500
Just have to start the trial again with another jury.
1402
01:13:53,568 --> 01:13:54,442
That's not what we're here for...
1403
01:13:54,556 --> 01:13:55,706
What the hell is the difference?
1404
01:13:55,836 --> 01:13:57,101
A hung jury's what you're gonna get!
1405
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:03,220
Alright, look! I'll tell you what I think, alright?
1406
01:14:03,232 --> 01:14:04,456
We ain't going nowhere in here!
1407
01:14:04,912 --> 01:14:07,306
I'm ready to go into court right
now and declare a hung jury.
1408
01:14:07,536 --> 01:14:08,516
Yeah, I go for that too!
1409
01:14:08,544 --> 01:14:11,696
Come on, let's take it to the judge.
Let this kid take his chances with 12 other guys.
1410
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,888
The court is not going to accept a hung jury.
We haven't been here long enough.
1411
01:14:15,904 --> 01:14:16,909
Well, let's find out!
1412
01:14:16,988 --> 01:14:18,164
I'm not in favour of this.
1413
01:14:18,228 --> 01:14:21,460
Listen, this kid wouldn't stand a chance
with another jury and you know it.
1414
01:14:21,856 --> 01:14:23,255
Come on, we're hung...
1415
01:14:23,448 --> 01:14:26,219
Nobody's gonna change their opinion!
Let's take it inside.
1416
01:14:26,573 --> 01:14:28,584
You still don't think there's any
room for reasonable doubt?
1417
01:14:29,152 --> 01:14:29,952
No, I don't.
1418
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:33,408
Pardon, maybe you do not fully
understand the term reasonable doubt.
1419
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,383
Oh, what do you mean I don't understand?
1420
01:14:36,086 --> 01:14:37,966
Who the hell are you to talk to me like that?
1421
01:14:39,248 --> 01:14:40,721
How do you like this guy, eh?
I'm telling you...
1422
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:42,338
They're all the same...
1423
01:14:43,036 --> 01:14:45,134
You come over to this country
running for your life
1424
01:14:45,232 --> 01:14:47,798
and before you can take a big breath
he's telling us how to run the show.
1425
01:14:48,685 --> 01:14:49,766
The arrogance of this guy!
1426
01:14:50,136 --> 01:14:52,876
- Oh you call him arrogant cause he wasn't born here.
- Please don't...
1427
01:14:53,036 --> 01:14:55,025
Well, I'm calling you arrogant
cause you were, how's that?
1428
01:14:55,044 --> 01:14:56,576
- Hey look, sonny...
- And who the hell are you calling sonny?
1429
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,500
Hey look, sonny!
1430
01:14:57,564 --> 01:15:00,452
Nobody around here's gonna tell me what
words I understand and what words I don't.
1431
01:15:00,876 --> 01:15:01,776
Especially him!
1432
01:15:02,352 --> 01:15:05,665
Cause I'll knock his middle eastern
European god damn head off!
1433
01:15:05,712 --> 01:15:07,184
Alright, cut the bullshit.
1434
01:15:07,464 --> 01:15:09,264
We're not going in as a hung jury.
1435
01:15:10,180 --> 01:15:11,869
Come on, let's get back to work.
1436
01:15:11,984 --> 01:15:15,939
I think there's something I would like to
discuss, if it's alright with you jentlemen.
1437
01:15:16,112 --> 01:15:19,251
An important point the prosecution
raised, was the fact that the boy,
1438
01:15:19,304 --> 01:15:20,965
having said that he was at the movies,
1439
01:15:21,344 --> 01:15:23,304
during the time the murder occured,
1440
01:15:23,428 --> 01:15:27,460
could not remember the names of the
films or the stars that were in them.
1441
01:15:27,516 --> 01:15:30,616
- This jentleman has raised that point several times.
- That's correct.
1442
01:15:31,212 --> 01:15:36,787
It was the only alibi the boy offered and he himself
couldn't back it up with any details at all.
1443
01:15:36,872 --> 01:15:39,686
Well, putting yourself in the boy's place, if you can,
1444
01:15:40,148 --> 01:15:42,410
do you think that you would
be able to remember details
1445
01:15:42,436 --> 01:15:45,672
after an experience such as your
father hitting you on the face?
1446
01:15:45,836 --> 01:15:50,755
Yes, I think so, if there were any
special details to remember.
1447
01:15:51,108 --> 01:15:55,385
He couldn't remember the movies at the theatre
he named because he wasn't there that night.
1448
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,827
Well, the police said they interrogated
the boy in the kitchen of his apartment,
1449
01:15:58,912 --> 01:16:01,775
while his father's body lay
on the floor of the bedroom.
1450
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,295
Do you think that you could remember
details under a situation such as that?
1451
01:16:06,716 --> 01:16:07,616
Yes, I do.
1452
01:16:07,736 --> 01:16:09,667
Under extreme emotional stress?
1453
01:16:10,208 --> 01:16:12,537
Under extreme emotional stress, yes, yes...
1454
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,447
Of course, in court, he did remember
the names of the pictures
1455
01:16:15,488 --> 01:16:18,166
and he remembered the names of
the stars that appeared in them.
1456
01:16:18,204 --> 01:16:20,762
Oh, yes! His lawyer took great
pains to bring that out.
1457
01:16:21,132 --> 01:16:25,999
He had three months from the night of the murder
to the day of the trial in which to memorise them.
1458
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,928
I'll take the testimony of the policemen who
interrogated him right after the murder.
1459
01:16:31,887 --> 01:16:34,246
Then he couldn't remember a thing about the movies.
1460
01:16:34,472 --> 01:16:36,573
Great emotional stress or not!
1461
01:16:36,836 --> 01:16:38,811
Ok... Could I ask you a personal question?
1462
01:16:38,828 --> 01:16:39,728
Oh, please, go ahead, go ahead...
1463
01:16:39,944 --> 01:16:40,944
Where were you last night?
1464
01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:42,296
I was home, yes...
1465
01:16:43,016 --> 01:16:44,063
Ok... The night before that?
1466
01:16:44,108 --> 01:16:45,008
Hey, come on, what is this?
1467
01:16:45,484 --> 01:16:46,673
It's perfectly alright... wait, wait...
1468
01:16:46,892 --> 01:16:47,804
The night before...
1469
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:54,094
I went from home to my office, stayed until 8:30,
then I went straight home to bed, yes.
1470
01:16:54,406 --> 01:16:55,805
Alright... and the night before that?
1471
01:16:56,785 --> 01:17:00,778
That was... Tuesday... thank you, Tuesday.
1472
01:17:01,408 --> 01:17:04,766
That was the night of the bridge tournament...
Yes, yes, I played bridge.
1473
01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:06,424
And Monday night?
1474
01:17:06,544 --> 01:17:09,798
When you get them down to
New Year's Eve 1972, let me know!
1475
01:17:09,852 --> 01:17:10,652
Wait, wait...
1476
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,936
Monday night...
1477
01:17:14,244 --> 01:17:16,223
...Oh yes! My wife and I went to the movies.
1478
01:17:16,244 --> 01:17:17,844
Ah... What did you see?
1479
01:17:21,396 --> 01:17:28,050
"Lies... and... secrets". It was a very
touching story about a black woman who...
1480
01:17:28,060 --> 01:17:28,860
Excuse me!
1481
01:17:29,908 --> 01:17:32,139
It's called "Secrets and lies".
1482
01:17:32,872 --> 01:17:34,593
"Secrets and lies", yes...
1483
01:17:34,734 --> 01:17:37,398
Correct. And who was in "Secrets and lies"?
1484
01:17:38,575 --> 01:17:42,527
Wait, wait, wait a minute...
It was something with a 'B'... it was 'Be'...
1485
01:17:44,044 --> 01:17:44,644
I think...
1486
01:17:45,072 --> 01:17:46,960
Yeah, Bella, Bella... Bella...
1487
01:17:47,024 --> 01:17:48,024
It was Brenda.
1488
01:17:48,588 --> 01:17:49,288
Brenda,
1489
01:17:49,784 --> 01:17:51,853
...was her name. And what was her last name?
1490
01:17:55,096 --> 01:17:56,096
It was an english movie...
1491
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,934
The actors that I'm not familiar with...
1492
01:17:59,972 --> 01:18:01,892
...There was something with 'U'...
1493
01:18:05,484 --> 01:18:07,509
I'm sorry. I'm very sorry.
1494
01:18:08,192 --> 01:18:11,395
And you weren't under great emotional
stress at the time, were you?
1495
01:18:11,436 --> 01:18:14,380
No sir, I... wasn't... sorry.
1496
01:18:15,364 --> 01:18:16,664
I think the point is made!
1497
01:18:17,016 --> 01:18:18,216
Yeah, big point!
1498
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:20,640
I think it is a big point.
1499
01:18:21,084 --> 01:18:24,058
What, because he couldn't remember the
name of a couple of two brit movie stars?
1500
01:18:24,308 --> 01:18:26,788
Oh well, I guess that proves that
the kid was at the movies then.
1501
01:18:26,852 --> 01:18:30,033
No, but it indicates that noone
can prove that he wasn't.
1502
01:18:30,908 --> 01:18:33,540
He might have been at the movies
and forgotten what he saw,
1503
01:18:34,116 --> 01:18:35,016
it's possible...
1504
01:18:35,852 --> 01:18:38,848
If it's perfectly logical for this
jentleman to forget a few details,
1505
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,537
it's perfectly logical for the boy!
1506
01:18:41,508 --> 01:18:45,294
Being accused of murder isn't supposed
to give him an infallible memory.
1507
01:18:45,512 --> 01:18:49,942
Man, you can talk till your tongue is draggin'
on the ground, ok? The kid is guilty, period!
1508
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,280
You know what I mean, my friend?
1509
01:18:53,456 --> 01:18:54,577
Who's got the cough drops?
1510
01:18:56,432 --> 01:18:58,871
They're all gone... my friend.
1511
01:19:00,888 --> 01:19:04,591
You know, there's something we're forgetting
here, that I was just thinking about
1512
01:19:05,548 --> 01:19:10,859
and that's that old business that dragged down forever
with the psychiatrists, where he got all involved with...
1513
01:19:09,904 --> 01:19:14,491
Oh come on, don't start with all that phony,
psycho, whatsyoucallem stuff!
1514
01:19:15,236 --> 01:19:18,024
That boy would have reckon that is, fill
the people's heads with all that junk.
1515
01:19:18,104 --> 01:19:20,926
I got three psychiatrists bringing in
collars to my detail shop,
1516
01:19:21,008 --> 01:19:22,984
the whole three of them bullies is crazy!
1517
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,280
I'm trying to make a point...
1518
01:19:24,352 --> 01:19:28,338
I will give you a buffalo nickel for a
psychiatrist's testimony, I would... I would!
1519
01:19:28,356 --> 01:19:30,156
Why won't you let the man talk?
1520
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,956
You can do five minutes on the usages
of psychiatry after he's through.
1521
01:19:35,032 --> 01:19:36,032
What I was gonna say,
1522
01:19:36,432 --> 01:19:40,368
was that the psychiatrist definitely stated that
the boy had strong homicidal tendencies,
1523
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,962
that he was capable of commiting murder.
1524
01:19:44,072 --> 01:19:47,308
He also described all those tests, etc.
1525
01:19:47,492 --> 01:19:49,471
The boy definitely was the killer type!
1526
01:19:49,664 --> 01:19:50,264
Am I right?
1527
01:19:50,288 --> 01:19:52,960
I think he said something about
paranoid enmities, if I'm not mistaken.
1528
01:19:53,060 --> 01:19:53,860
That's right!
1529
01:19:54,376 --> 01:19:55,876
Let's just try to remember he said it.
1530
01:19:56,705 --> 01:20:00,187
Let's not forget that we're talking about a boy
here who's always had murder on his mind.
1531
01:20:00,256 --> 01:20:01,456
His unconscious mind!
1532
01:20:02,008 --> 01:20:03,372
I beg your pardon! In discussing...
1533
01:20:03,404 --> 01:20:05,752
"I beg your pardon"!
Why are you so damn polite about?
1534
01:20:07,376 --> 01:20:11,564
For the same reason that you are not:
It was the way I was brought up...
1535
01:20:12,168 --> 01:20:14,610
In discussing such a thing as the murder potential,
1536
01:20:15,112 --> 01:20:19,448
we must remember that many of us are capable
of commiting murder, but few of us do.
1537
01:20:19,768 --> 01:20:22,140
We impose controls upon ourselves to prevent it.
1538
01:20:22,796 --> 01:20:26,648
Now the most that these psychiatric tests
can accomplish along these lines is this...
1539
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:31,368
They can tell us that some day, a
particular person may commit murder.
1540
01:20:31,468 --> 01:20:33,691
That is all! They prove nothing!
1541
01:20:33,768 --> 01:20:35,576
Then how come they're admitted in evidence?
1542
01:20:36,088 --> 01:20:37,611
They have many uses, of course...
1543
01:20:38,048 --> 01:20:42,098
In this case, they added to the general impression
the prosecution was trying to create.
1544
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,291
Perhaps we would find,
1545
01:20:44,692 --> 01:20:47,208
if the twelve of us men took the same tests,
1546
01:20:47,532 --> 01:20:52,011
one or two of us might be discovered to
have the subconscious desires to kill
1547
01:20:52,444 --> 01:20:54,597
and the potentiality of carrying them out.
1548
01:20:55,312 --> 01:20:56,902
Yet, none of us has...
1549
01:20:57,576 --> 01:20:59,952
To say that the man is capable of murder,
1550
01:21:00,124 --> 01:21:02,088
does not mean that he has commited murder.
1551
01:21:02,352 --> 01:21:03,452
Yeah, but it could mean it!
1552
01:21:03,928 --> 01:21:07,311
Look, if they said that this kid is capable of
killing, he could've killed, couldn't he?
1553
01:21:07,356 --> 01:21:12,617
You're the one who said and I quote: "I wouldn't give
a buffalo nickel for a psychiatrist's testimony"!
1554
01:21:16,796 --> 01:21:17,996
5 to 6...
1555
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,220
Look at that rain...
1556
01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:24,612
There goes the old ball game.
1557
01:21:26,592 --> 01:21:30,832
Say... Say... Could I see that knife for a second?
1558
01:21:33,796 --> 01:21:34,996
Alright jentlemen...
1559
01:21:37,052 --> 01:21:38,552
...we're still tied 6 to 6.
1560
01:21:40,612 --> 01:21:42,688
- Who's got a suggestion?
- I do. Where's that dinner?
1561
01:21:43,112 --> 01:21:45,476
- Let's go until 7, give it another hour.
- Ok.
1562
01:21:46,068 --> 01:21:48,448
Listen... Something... Something I wanna say.
1563
01:21:49,420 --> 01:21:51,024
It's been bothering me a little and...
1564
01:21:51,492 --> 01:21:52,992
as long as we're stuck...
1565
01:21:54,064 --> 01:21:54,864
Well,
1566
01:21:55,532 --> 01:22:02,481
there was this whole business about the stab wound,
how it was made, the downward angle, you know?
1567
01:22:02,620 --> 01:22:06,469
- You're not gonna start that again, they went over 'n' over
it!
- I know they did, but I...
1568
01:22:07,648 --> 01:22:09,048
...I can't go along with it.
1569
01:22:10,116 --> 01:22:11,016
The boy...
1570
01:22:12,436 --> 01:22:16,408
...was, what, 5 feet 7 inches tall, right?
1571
01:22:16,584 --> 01:22:21,159
And according to the medical examiner,
the father was 6 feet 2.
1572
01:22:21,788 --> 01:22:24,984
Now, that's a difference of 7 inches.
1573
01:22:25,916 --> 01:22:29,612
Now, it's an awkward thing to...
1574
01:22:30,456 --> 01:22:36,320
stab down into somebody's chest when he's
more than half a foot taller than you are.
1575
01:22:36,788 --> 01:22:37,888
Give me that thing!
1576
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,809
You won't be satisfied till you see this again,
so I'm gonna give you a little demonstration.
1577
01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:46,340
Somebody get up.
1578
01:22:51,048 --> 01:22:51,748
Ok...
1579
01:22:53,928 --> 01:22:56,415
Watch this please, I don't
wanna have to do it again.
1580
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:09,564
I'm about 6 or 7 inches shorter than you, right?
1581
01:23:09,624 --> 01:23:11,124
Yeah, maybe even a little more.
1582
01:23:11,752 --> 01:23:12,852
Well, let it be more.
1583
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,496
- Hey, that ain't funny!
- What's the matter with you?
1584
01:23:22,772 --> 01:23:23,872
Calm down...
1585
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,200
Nobody's hurt, right?
1586
01:23:26,292 --> 01:23:27,392
Nobody's hurt.
1587
01:23:28,584 --> 01:23:29,284
Now...
1588
01:23:30,352 --> 01:23:33,538
...there's you angle. Take a look at it. Down and in.
1589
01:23:33,908 --> 01:23:37,970
That's the way I would stab a taller
man and that's the way it was done.
1590
01:23:38,536 --> 01:23:41,256
Now go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.
1591
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:43,674
Down and in! That's how it was done.
1592
01:23:44,168 --> 01:23:46,118
Wait a minute, wait a minute!
Let me see that!
1593
01:23:48,172 --> 01:23:50,451
This is a stiletto, not a switchblade.
1594
01:23:51,388 --> 01:23:52,488
I hate these things!
1595
01:23:53,419 --> 01:23:54,503
I grew up with them.
1596
01:23:54,956 --> 01:23:56,356
Have you ever seen them used in a fight?
1597
01:23:56,748 --> 01:23:57,748
Too many of them.
1598
01:23:58,340 --> 01:23:59,836
On my stoop, in my backyard...
1599
01:24:00,584 --> 01:24:01,584
...a lot across the street...
1600
01:24:03,392 --> 01:24:05,292
These came with the neighbourhood where I lived.
1601
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,420
It's funny I wasn't thinking of it...
1602
01:24:10,512 --> 01:24:11,912
I guess I try to forget those things...
1603
01:24:14,384 --> 01:24:16,184
You can't use this kind of knife that way.
1604
01:24:17,576 --> 01:24:19,576
You have to hold it like this to release the blade.
1605
01:24:20,420 --> 01:24:23,223
In order to stab downwards
you have to change your grip.
1606
01:24:24,032 --> 01:24:25,232
Well, how do you use it?
1607
01:24:25,396 --> 01:24:27,196
Underhand, like this.
1608
01:24:28,892 --> 01:24:31,469
Anyone who's ever used one of these
would never handle it any other way.
1609
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,160
Are you sure?
1610
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,191
Yeah, I'm sure. That's
why it's made like this.
1611
01:24:35,748 --> 01:24:38,838
Well, we all agree that that boy is
pretty handy with the knife, right?
1612
01:24:38,908 --> 01:24:39,808
Yeah, that's right.
1613
01:24:39,897 --> 01:24:42,299
You think he could have made the
kind of wound that killed his father?
1614
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,496
Not with the experience he'd had using
these things, no, I don't think he would.
1615
01:24:46,642 --> 01:24:47,745
He'd go for my laying...
1616
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:50,048
How do you know? Were you in the
room when the father was killed?
1617
01:24:50,144 --> 01:24:51,144
No... neither was anyone else.
1618
01:24:51,148 --> 01:24:53,755
You're giving us a lot of mumbo
jumbo, I don't believe it!
1619
01:24:54,172 --> 01:24:58,781
I don't think you can determine the type of
wounds this boy might or might not have made,
1620
01:24:59,328 --> 01:25:01,325
simply because he knows
how to handle a knife.
1621
01:25:01,372 --> 01:25:02,772
That's right, that's absolutely right!
1622
01:25:03,584 --> 01:25:04,684
What do you think?
1623
01:25:07,164 --> 01:25:08,064
Well...
1624
01:25:09,572 --> 01:25:10,272
...I don't know.
1625
01:25:10,296 --> 01:25:11,596
What do you mean you don't know?
1626
01:25:12,144 --> 01:25:13,144
I don't know!
1627
01:25:17,672 --> 01:25:18,472
How about you?
1628
01:25:21,984 --> 01:25:23,984
Hey listen, listen, listen...
I'll tell you something...
1629
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,872
Now, I'm a little sick of this whole
thing already, you know?
1630
01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:28,840
I mean, all this yapping is getting us nowhere!
1631
01:25:29,504 --> 01:25:30,871
So, I'm gonna break it up here.
1632
01:25:31,424 --> 01:25:32,924
I'm changing my vote to not guilty!
1633
01:25:33,024 --> 01:25:34,024
You're what?
1634
01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:36,120
You heard me. I... I've had enough!
1635
01:25:36,248 --> 01:25:37,967
What do you mean you've had enough?
That's no answer!
1636
01:25:38,416 --> 01:25:40,606
Hey listen, you... You just
worry about yourself!
1637
01:25:40,668 --> 01:25:41,568
He's right!
1638
01:25:42,112 --> 01:25:43,512
That is not an answer!
1639
01:25:44,696 --> 01:25:46,596
What kind of man are you?
1640
01:25:47,108 --> 01:25:49,808
You have been sitting here,
voting guilty with everyone else,
1641
01:25:50,084 --> 01:25:53,374
because there are a couple of baseball
tickets burning a hole in your pocket?
1642
01:25:53,904 --> 01:25:58,996
And now you say you're going to change your vote
because you've had enough with all the talking?
1643
01:25:59,216 --> 01:26:00,016
Alright, listen buddy...
1644
01:26:00,148 --> 01:26:01,448
You cannot do this!
1645
01:26:02,376 --> 01:26:04,476
You cannot play like this with a man's life!
1646
01:26:04,888 --> 01:26:05,888
What is wrong with you?
1647
01:26:06,052 --> 01:26:08,912
It is a terrible and ugly thing to do!
Do you not care?
1648
01:26:09,036 --> 01:26:10,136
Hey, wait a minute!
1649
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,100
You can't talk like that to me!
1650
01:26:12,112 --> 01:26:12,912
I can talk like that to you!
1651
01:26:13,148 --> 01:26:16,801
Now, if you want to vote not guilty, then do it because
you are convinced that the man is not guilty,
1652
01:26:16,812 --> 01:26:18,212
not because you've had enough.
1653
01:26:18,256 --> 01:26:20,192
If you want to vote guilty, then vote that way.
1654
01:26:20,224 --> 01:26:22,333
Or don't you have the guts
to do what you think is right?
1655
01:26:22,524 --> 01:26:23,624
Hey now, listen buddy!
1656
01:26:23,936 --> 01:26:25,528
Guilty or not guilty?
1657
01:26:25,608 --> 01:26:27,130
I told you, not guilty!
1658
01:26:27,212 --> 01:26:27,812
Why?
1659
01:26:27,984 --> 01:26:29,936
God damn you, I don't have to tell you anything!
1660
01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:31,640
Yes, you do! Say it, why?
1661
01:26:38,104 --> 01:26:39,404
Cause I don't think he's guilty...
1662
01:27:03,676 --> 01:27:05,844
Mr. Foreman, I wish to call for another vote.
1663
01:27:07,672 --> 01:27:08,672
Alright jentlemen,
1664
01:27:09,528 --> 01:27:11,128
another vote is called for.
1665
01:27:11,708 --> 01:27:13,398
And the quickest way is to show off hands.
1666
01:27:13,988 --> 01:27:14,988
Anybody object?
1667
01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:19,260
All those in favour of not guilty raise your hands.
1668
01:27:20,460 --> 01:27:31,339
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... 8.
1669
01:27:35,964 --> 01:27:36,864
9.
1670
01:27:41,164 --> 01:27:44,127
All those voting guilty, raise your hand.
1671
01:27:46,128 --> 01:27:47,326
1... 2...
1672
01:27:52,308 --> 01:27:53,208
...3.
1673
01:27:55,084 --> 01:27:57,284
The vote is 9 to 3 in favour of not guilty.
1674
01:27:57,928 --> 01:27:59,328
I don't understand you people!
1675
01:28:00,116 --> 01:28:03,858
I mean, all these little picky points you
keep bringing up don't mean nothing!
1676
01:28:04,044 --> 01:28:05,044
They don't mean nothing!
1677
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,440
How can you believe this story?
1678
01:28:09,948 --> 01:28:13,693
You're an intelligent man and you're not gonna tell
me that you're not, you know the facts of life.
1679
01:28:14,212 --> 01:28:15,512
Just look at what we're dealing with here.
1680
01:28:15,684 --> 01:28:16,684
You know him!
1681
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:17,960
You know this kid!
1682
01:28:19,916 --> 01:28:22,517
This guy other here, I don't know
what the hell is going on with him,
1683
01:28:22,584 --> 01:28:25,785
all that talk about psychiatrists...
Maybe he ought to go to one!
1684
01:28:27,656 --> 01:28:29,200
Now look! Let's talk facts.
1685
01:28:29,876 --> 01:28:32,752
These people are born to lie.
1686
01:28:33,128 --> 01:28:36,331
Now, that's the way they are and no
intelligent man is gonna tell me otherwise.
1687
01:28:36,364 --> 01:28:38,643
They don't know what the truth is!
You take a look at them!
1688
01:28:38,748 --> 01:28:39,648
They're different!
1689
01:28:39,764 --> 01:28:44,138
They think different, they act different and they
don't need some big excuse to kill somebody either.
1690
01:28:44,244 --> 01:28:46,020
Well, it's true! Everybody knows it.
1691
01:28:46,364 --> 01:28:48,687
Smoking that crack...
Nothing but crack he is!
1692
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,000
Look at him, smart guy...
1693
01:28:53,540 --> 01:28:55,040
...what's that mean, slam the door?
1694
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,914
Anyway, these people they get all drugged up
1695
01:28:58,668 --> 01:28:59,768
and BANG!
1696
01:28:59,856 --> 01:29:01,856
All of a sudden somebody's
lying dead in the gutter...
1697
01:29:01,932 --> 01:29:06,187
Ok, look, nobody's blaming'em for. That's just the
way they are by nature, you know what I mean?
1698
01:29:06,256 --> 01:29:09,653
They're violent! And human life don't
mean as much to them as it does to us.
1699
01:29:11,276 --> 01:29:12,276
Where are you going?
1700
01:29:12,888 --> 01:29:13,888
Where are you going?
1701
01:29:14,208 --> 01:29:17,328
Look, while you're in there, maybe you ought to
clean out your ears, maybe you can hear then.
1702
01:29:18,460 --> 01:29:19,760
Now look, listen to me now!
1703
01:29:23,832 --> 01:29:27,243
These spics! They stay high on
dope and they fight all the time...
1704
01:29:27,276 --> 01:29:30,302
Look, if somebody gets killed, so
somebody gets killed, they don't care!
1705
01:29:31,312 --> 01:29:32,912
They breed like animals...
1706
01:29:35,288 --> 01:29:36,869
Ok, sure, there's some good things about them...
1707
01:29:36,944 --> 01:29:38,544
Look, I'm the first guy to tell you that...
1708
01:29:39,168 --> 01:29:40,468
I've known some who were ok...
1709
01:29:41,096 --> 01:29:42,196
...but that's the exception!
1710
01:29:42,220 --> 01:29:44,094
You know you're a sick man?
1711
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,356
- Sick?
- Why don't you sit down?
1712
01:29:46,496 --> 01:29:48,515
You old son of a bitch!
Who are you?
1713
01:29:49,096 --> 01:29:50,753
No, who the hell is he to tell me that?
1714
01:29:50,812 --> 01:29:53,592
Sick... Look at him! He can hardly stand up!
1715
01:29:53,780 --> 01:29:56,535
No, I'm speaking my piece here
today and you're listening!
1716
01:29:56,580 --> 01:29:59,040
- Maybe you should...
- You shut up, you sit down!
1717
01:29:59,552 --> 01:30:01,508
There's not one of them...
not one, that's any good!
1718
01:30:01,752 --> 01:30:02,952
NOT ONE!!!
1719
01:30:03,452 --> 01:30:04,652
You hear that?
1720
01:30:05,744 --> 01:30:07,644
Sympathetic bastards!
1721
01:30:08,076 --> 01:30:10,919
And you were to wonder
you're so god damn smart...
1722
01:30:11,671 --> 01:30:13,637
We're facing a danger, don't you know that?
1723
01:30:14,128 --> 01:30:15,816
These wetbacks are multiplying like rabbits!
1724
01:30:15,908 --> 01:30:19,934
They come over here illegally and they're
multiplying five times faster than my people!
1725
01:30:20,608 --> 01:30:22,108
That's five times, brothers!
1726
01:30:22,876 --> 01:30:24,476
And they're wild animals!
1727
01:30:24,628 --> 01:30:26,528
They're against us, they hate us!
1728
01:30:26,836 --> 01:30:28,136
They want to destroy us!
1729
01:30:28,656 --> 01:30:31,955
They come over here and they benefit
from everything that we've built!
1730
01:30:32,704 --> 01:30:34,431
That's right! Don't look at me like that...
1731
01:30:34,524 --> 01:30:35,624
There's a danger...
1732
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:38,304
We are living in a dangerous time, brothers!
1733
01:30:39,260 --> 01:30:43,266
If we don't smack them down, if we don't
do something, every chance we get,
1734
01:30:43,532 --> 01:30:44,932
then they're gonna own us!
1735
01:30:45,341 --> 01:30:47,233
- They're gonna bring us out of existance...
- Shut up!
1736
01:30:47,292 --> 01:30:49,044
...I'm warning you! You listen to me...
1737
01:30:49,668 --> 01:30:50,868
I'm telling you, this boy...
1738
01:30:51,344 --> 01:30:54,456
...put this boy on trial, we got him.
1739
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,040
We got him!
1740
01:30:56,228 --> 01:30:57,328
That's one at least!
1741
01:30:57,671 --> 01:31:00,481
I say that we get him,
before his kind gets us!
1742
01:31:00,592 --> 01:31:02,392
I don't give a damn about the law!
1743
01:31:03,052 --> 01:31:05,176
Why should I? They don't!
1744
01:31:05,752 --> 01:31:07,666
- Now, I'm telling you...
- I've heard enough!
1745
01:31:08,296 --> 01:31:09,972
Won't you just stop all of this!
1746
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,181
Come on, wake up man! We
can make a difference here!
1747
01:31:12,192 --> 01:31:13,292
Sit down...
1748
01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:17,574
...and don't open your filthy mouth again!
1749
01:31:43,328 --> 01:31:44,528
Alright jentlemen.
1750
01:31:45,784 --> 01:31:47,184
Let's finish what we started.
1751
01:31:54,293 --> 01:31:55,910
You have made some excellent points.
1752
01:31:56,496 --> 01:32:02,376
The last one, in which you proved that the boy couldn't have
made that kind of overhand stab wound was very persuasive.
1753
01:32:02,804 --> 01:32:05,831
But I still believe the boy is guilty for the murder.
1754
01:32:06,404 --> 01:32:07,704
I have two reasons.
1755
01:32:07,804 --> 01:32:13,692
One: The evidence given by the woman across
the street, who actually saw the murder commited.
1756
01:32:13,708 --> 01:32:18,064
...and how... As far as I'm concerned that's the
most important testimony in the whole case!
1757
01:32:18,536 --> 01:32:19,236
Two...
1758
01:32:19,468 --> 01:32:26,439
The fact that the woman described the stabbing by
saying she saw the boy raise his arm over his head,
1759
01:32:26,552 --> 01:32:28,216
over his head, right up,
1760
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,496
and plunge the knife down into his father's chest.
1761
01:32:32,816 --> 01:32:33,856
She saw him do it!
1762
01:32:33,892 --> 01:32:34,892
The wrong way!
1763
01:32:34,988 --> 01:32:36,555
That's right, that's absolutely right!
1764
01:32:36,728 --> 01:32:39,720
So let's talk about this woman for a minute here...
1765
01:32:40,256 --> 01:32:45,100
She said that she went to bed at
about 11 o'clock that night, yes.
1766
01:32:46,747 --> 01:32:48,023
Her bed was next to the window,
1767
01:32:48,048 --> 01:32:53,014
she could look out while lying down and see
directly into the boy's window across the street.
1768
01:32:53,488 --> 01:32:55,976
She tossed and turned for over an hour,
1769
01:32:56,068 --> 01:32:57,916
unable to fall asleep. Finally...
1770
01:32:58,616 --> 01:33:00,408
...she turned towards the window,
1771
01:33:00,540 --> 01:33:03,168
at about 10 minutes after 12,
1772
01:33:03,392 --> 01:33:04,992
and as she looked out,
1773
01:33:05,588 --> 01:33:09,608
she saw the killing through the
windows of the passing el train.
1774
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,768
She says, the lights went out
immediately after the killing,
1775
01:33:13,780 --> 01:33:19,486
but that she got a good look at the
boy in the act of stabbing his father.
1776
01:33:19,588 --> 01:33:26,080
You know, as far as I can see,
this is unshakeable testimony!
1777
01:33:26,184 --> 01:33:27,816
That's what I mean, it's the whole case!
1778
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:30,680
What do you think?
1779
01:33:34,932 --> 01:33:36,132
What about you?
1780
01:33:39,124 --> 01:33:40,024
Well...
1781
01:33:40,452 --> 01:33:41,852
...I don't know, it's...
1782
01:33:43,188 --> 01:33:46,328
There's so many things to shift through... I... I...
This is pretty complicated business...
1783
01:33:47,736 --> 01:33:50,907
Really, I don't see how we
can vote for an acquiter?
1784
01:33:52,088 --> 01:33:52,788
Well...
1785
01:33:53,692 --> 01:33:56,788
...it's just not easy to arrange
the evidence in order.
1786
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,848
You can throw out all the other evidence!
1787
01:33:58,952 --> 01:34:01,956
The woman saw him do it!
What else do you want?
1788
01:34:02,868 --> 01:34:04,526
Well... maybe...
1789
01:34:04,552 --> 01:34:05,652
Let's vote now.
1790
01:34:06,524 --> 01:34:08,501
Alright jentlemen, another vote is called for.
1791
01:34:09,204 --> 01:34:10,304
Anyone object?
1792
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,902
I'm changing my vote. I think he's guilty...
1793
01:34:15,444 --> 01:34:16,644
Anybody else?
1794
01:34:16,868 --> 01:34:19,888
What makes you consider this
one vote a personal triumph?
1795
01:34:19,896 --> 01:34:21,396
I'm the competitive type!
1796
01:34:21,652 --> 01:34:25,192
Here's what I think... I think we're a
hung jury, let's take it inside to the judge.
1797
01:34:25,224 --> 01:34:26,024
What?
1798
01:34:26,984 --> 01:34:29,500
- You didn't want a hung jury before...
- Well, I do now!
1799
01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:32,120
I... I don't understand that.
1800
01:34:32,512 --> 01:34:33,952
You thought it was immoral.
1801
01:34:34,148 --> 01:34:35,880
I don't anymore...
1802
01:34:38,356 --> 01:34:41,413
People in here are so god damn stubborn!
1803
01:34:42,464 --> 01:34:44,608
We'll never get this done,
we'll be here for a week!
1804
01:34:45,228 --> 01:34:46,828
I wanna hear an argument.
1805
01:34:46,912 --> 01:34:48,630
I say we're a hung jury...
1806
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:49,800
Well, come on!
1807
01:34:49,948 --> 01:34:51,673
You're the leader of the cause, what about it?
1808
01:34:52,248 --> 01:34:53,448
Let's go over it again.
1809
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:54,908
We went over it again...
1810
01:34:54,988 --> 01:34:59,824
J. Walter Thomson over here has been
bouncing back and forth like a ping pong ball!
1811
01:34:59,884 --> 01:35:02,352
- Wait a minute... You don't have to call me...
- I apologise!
1812
01:35:02,428 --> 01:35:03,628
On my knees!
1813
01:35:04,028 --> 01:35:04,928
Come on...
1814
01:35:05,404 --> 01:35:06,804
Let's get out from under this thing, eh?
1815
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:07,880
Alright, alright...
1816
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,512
Maybe we can talk about setting
some kind of a time limit.
1817
01:35:11,536 --> 01:35:13,036
- What's the time?
- Quarter after six.
1818
01:35:13,144 --> 01:35:16,744
Quarter after six... Someone
before mentioned seven o'clock.
1819
01:35:16,968 --> 01:35:22,386
I think that's the point at which we might begin to discuss
the question about whether we are a hung jury, or not.
1820
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:23,680
- Excuse me!
- Yes.
1821
01:35:23,724 --> 01:35:24,824
Don't you feel well?
1822
01:35:24,928 --> 01:35:27,185
Oh, I feel perfectly well, thank you very much.
1823
01:35:27,268 --> 01:35:29,292
I was saying, 7 o'clock would be...
1824
01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:33,754
The reason I asked was that
you were rubbing your nose...
1825
01:35:35,196 --> 01:35:36,696
I'm sorry to interrupt...
1826
01:35:37,056 --> 01:35:39,864
...but you made a gesture,
1827
01:35:40,044 --> 01:35:42,605
that reminded me of one of the witnesses...
1828
01:35:42,672 --> 01:35:44,772
I was trying to say something here, do you mind?
1829
01:35:45,172 --> 01:35:46,972
I think this is important!
1830
01:35:47,224 --> 01:35:49,156
Ok, go ahead, please, go ahead...
1831
01:35:49,164 --> 01:35:50,064
Thank you!
1832
01:35:52,084 --> 01:35:54,284
I hope you'll forgive me for this, but...
1833
01:35:55,388 --> 01:35:57,012
...I was wondering why...
1834
01:35:57,612 --> 01:36:00,288
...why were you rubbing your nose like that?
1835
01:36:00,296 --> 01:36:02,364
Come on now, would you please?
1836
01:36:02,684 --> 01:36:03,984
Right now,
1837
01:36:04,288 --> 01:36:06,633
I'm talking to this jentleman here.
1838
01:36:07,364 --> 01:36:08,164
Now...
1839
01:36:08,612 --> 01:36:10,189
Why were you rubbing your nose?
1840
01:36:10,568 --> 01:36:12,342
Well, if it's any of your business,
1841
01:36:12,424 --> 01:36:15,169
I was rubbing it because it bothers me.
1842
01:36:15,684 --> 01:36:18,384
Is it because of your eyeglasses?
1843
01:36:18,892 --> 01:36:22,228
It is, yes, it is, could we get on
to something else please?
1844
01:36:22,288 --> 01:36:26,487
Your eyeglasses make those deep
impressions on the side of your nose.
1845
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:27,560
Yes...
1846
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,280
I hadn't noticed that before...
1847
01:36:31,308 --> 01:36:32,800
They must be annoying.
1848
01:36:33,212 --> 01:36:36,175
Oh yes, oh yes, they are...
Very, very annoying.
1849
01:36:36,264 --> 01:36:37,548
I wouldn't know about that.
1850
01:36:38,584 --> 01:36:40,384
I've never worn eyeglasses.
1851
01:36:41,884 --> 01:36:42,984
20-20!
1852
01:36:43,308 --> 01:36:45,496
Hey come on with the optometrist bit already!
1853
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:50,796
The woman who testified that she saw the killing,
1854
01:36:51,888 --> 01:36:55,268
had those same deep marks on the side of her nose.
1855
01:36:55,344 --> 01:36:56,044
Wow!
1856
01:36:56,216 --> 01:36:57,216
Did you see that?
1857
01:36:59,984 --> 01:37:02,431
Please... please... just a minute!
1858
01:37:02,872 --> 01:37:04,432
Please! Just a minute...
1859
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,240
...and I'll be finished.
1860
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,468
I don't know if any of you noticed that...
1861
01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:12,480
...I didn't think about it then...
1862
01:37:13,992 --> 01:37:17,580
...but, I've been going over her face in my mind...
1863
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,560
She had those marks!
1864
01:37:21,396 --> 01:37:22,896
She kept rubbing them in court...
1865
01:37:23,041 --> 01:37:24,639
- He's right!
- He's right, she did do that a lot!
1866
01:37:25,580 --> 01:37:26,780
This woman,
1867
01:37:28,312 --> 01:37:30,112
was about 45 years old,
1868
01:37:30,928 --> 01:37:34,035
making a tremendous effort to look 35...
1869
01:37:34,316 --> 01:37:36,116
You know, for her first public appearance...
1870
01:37:38,508 --> 01:37:40,880
Dyed hair, heavy make-up
1871
01:37:41,676 --> 01:37:43,476
and brand new clothes...
1872
01:37:45,116 --> 01:37:47,216
...which would have been more
suitable on a younger woman...
1873
01:37:49,312 --> 01:37:52,308
...and... no eyeglasses!
1874
01:37:54,304 --> 01:37:55,825
See if you can get a picture a mental picture of her.
1875
01:37:55,996 --> 01:37:58,912
What do you mean no glasses?
You don't know if she wear glasses!
1876
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,516
Just because she was rubbing her nose?
1877
01:38:00,588 --> 01:38:02,388
She had those marks.
I saw them!
1878
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:04,236
So what? What do you think that means?
1879
01:38:04,340 --> 01:38:06,040
I saw them too. He's right!
1880
01:38:06,628 --> 01:38:07,928
I was the closest one to her...
1881
01:38:08,248 --> 01:38:09,748
She had those marks!
1882
01:38:09,996 --> 01:38:11,496
What point are you trying to make here?
1883
01:38:11,536 --> 01:38:12,736
She had them!
1884
01:38:12,828 --> 01:38:15,616
That's the point I'm trying to
make... she had those marks!
1885
01:38:16,028 --> 01:38:21,677
She had dyed hair and marks on her nose,
now I'm asking you, what does that mean?
1886
01:38:21,688 --> 01:38:26,316
Could those marks have been made
by anything other than eyeglasses?
1887
01:38:26,656 --> 01:38:27,892
No... no... they couldn't...
1888
01:38:27,948 --> 01:38:29,636
What are you saying?
I didn't see any marks!
1889
01:38:30,652 --> 01:38:32,552
I... I did... yes, I did...
1890
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,120
Strange, I...
1891
01:38:35,656 --> 01:38:37,856
...didn't think about it before, strange...
1892
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:40,600
What about the lawyer?
Why didn't he say anything?
1893
01:38:40,684 --> 01:38:44,301
Look, there's twelve people in here that
have been concentrating on this case
1894
01:38:44,392 --> 01:38:45,888
and eleven of us didn't think of it.
1895
01:38:45,964 --> 01:38:47,916
Alright... Clarence Daryl!
1896
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,268
What about the district attorney?
1897
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:54,905
Do you think he'd try to pull a trick like that,
letting her testify without her glasses?
1898
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,665
Haven't you ever met a woman who needed glasses
1899
01:38:56,776 --> 01:38:59,352
but didn't want to wear them because
she thought they ruined her looks?
1900
01:38:59,416 --> 01:39:00,516
Yeah, my wife!
1901
01:39:00,608 --> 01:39:02,874
I'm telling you, she walks out of the
house, she takes off her glasses,
1902
01:39:02,968 --> 01:39:05,968
she puts them in her purse, she walks down
the street and starts bumping into shit...
1903
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,168
Maybe the district attorney didn't know either.
1904
01:39:08,932 --> 01:39:10,432
Just what I was gonna say.
1905
01:39:10,592 --> 01:39:11,592
Alright.
1906
01:39:12,248 --> 01:39:15,362
She had marks on her nose, I'm giving you that...
1907
01:39:15,644 --> 01:39:16,944
...from glasses...
1908
01:39:17,324 --> 01:39:19,236
...she never wore them out of the house...
1909
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:22,308
...so that everybody would think she was gorgeous!
1910
01:39:23,304 --> 01:39:27,440
But when she saw that kid killing
his father she was in the house!
1911
01:39:27,488 --> 01:39:28,588
Alone...!
1912
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,096
Do you wear your glasses when you go to bed?
1913
01:39:30,108 --> 01:39:32,712
Noone wears eyeglasses to bed, noone...
1914
01:39:32,844 --> 01:39:35,744
Then it's logical to say that she
wasn't wearing hers in bed either.
1915
01:39:35,796 --> 01:39:38,174
- How do you know?
- I don't know, I'm just guessing.
1916
01:39:38,296 --> 01:39:43,140
And I'm also guessing that when she glanced out
the window, she didn't put her glasses on either.
1917
01:39:43,232 --> 01:39:46,857
She herself said that she just looked
out the window, the murder took place
1918
01:39:46,940 --> 01:39:49,237
and one split second later the lights went out.
1919
01:39:49,556 --> 01:39:51,492
She wouldn't have had time
to put her glasses on then...
1920
01:39:51,536 --> 01:39:52,636
Wait a second!
1921
01:39:52,704 --> 01:39:53,836
And here's another guess.
1922
01:39:53,944 --> 01:39:57,556
Maybe the woman honestly thought
she saw the boy kill his father,
1923
01:39:57,808 --> 01:39:59,808
I say, she only saw a blur!
1924
01:39:59,852 --> 01:40:01,252
How do you know what she saw?
1925
01:40:01,312 --> 01:40:02,912
How does he know these things?
1926
01:40:03,452 --> 01:40:05,324
You don't know what kind of glasses she wore!
1927
01:40:05,448 --> 01:40:09,385
Maybe she was farsighted, maybe they were
sunglasses... What do you know about it?
1928
01:40:09,428 --> 01:40:12,664
I only know that the woman's
eyesight is in question now.
1929
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,840
She had to identify a person 60 feet
away, in the dark, without glasses.
1930
01:40:16,940 --> 01:40:19,756
You can't send someone off
to die on evidence like that.
1931
01:40:19,812 --> 01:40:20,612
Don't give me that!
1932
01:40:20,628 --> 01:40:23,168
You don't think it's possible that
the woman made a mistake?
1933
01:40:23,244 --> 01:40:23,944
No!
1934
01:40:24,104 --> 01:40:25,104
It's not possible...
1935
01:40:25,248 --> 01:40:26,448
No, it's not possible!
1936
01:40:27,872 --> 01:40:29,372
No 12, is it possible?
1937
01:40:31,892 --> 01:40:33,836
Yes... it's possible...
1938
01:40:37,112 --> 01:40:38,312
...The kid's not guilty!
1939
01:40:39,632 --> 01:40:42,660
No 10, do you think he's guilty?
1940
01:40:45,024 --> 01:40:46,316
Yes, I think he's guilty...
1941
01:40:46,896 --> 01:40:48,096
...but I couldn't care less.
1942
01:40:48,164 --> 01:40:50,120
You smart bastards... you
do whatever you want!
1943
01:40:50,724 --> 01:40:51,724
How do you vote?
1944
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,444
I vote not guilty.
1945
01:40:55,932 --> 01:40:57,032
Do whatever you want...
1946
01:40:58,128 --> 01:40:59,728
You're the worst son of a...
1947
01:41:02,140 --> 01:41:03,340
I think he's guilty!
1948
01:41:03,848 --> 01:41:05,924
Does anyone else think he's guilty?
1949
01:41:10,460 --> 01:41:12,664
No, I'm... I'm convinced...
1950
01:41:13,428 --> 01:41:14,628
What's the matter with you?
1951
01:41:15,300 --> 01:41:18,934
I now have... a reasonable doubt.
1952
01:41:20,572 --> 01:41:22,109
It's eleven to one!
1953
01:41:25,632 --> 01:41:29,782
What about all the other evidence? The knife...
all that other stuff... the whole business!
1954
01:41:30,004 --> 01:41:32,104
You said we could throw out
all the other evidence.
1955
01:41:33,276 --> 01:41:34,376
You're alone.
1956
01:41:38,384 --> 01:41:40,084
I don't care whether I'm alone or not...
1957
01:41:42,566 --> 01:41:45,244
...it's my right!
- It is your right.
1958
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:48,100
What do you want?
1959
01:41:50,164 --> 01:41:51,364
I say he's guilty.
1960
01:41:52,156 --> 01:41:54,715
- We want to hear your arguments.
- I gave you my arguments.
1961
01:41:55,332 --> 01:41:58,080
But we're not convinced.
We want to hear them again.
1962
01:41:58,628 --> 01:42:00,228
We have as much time as it takes.
1963
01:42:06,212 --> 01:42:07,112
Everything...
1964
01:42:08,460 --> 01:42:13,210
...every single thing that went on in that courtroom...
but I mean everything... says he's guilty.
1965
01:42:13,216 --> 01:42:15,232
What do you think I am, an idiot or something?
1966
01:42:17,288 --> 01:42:17,988
You...
1967
01:42:18,764 --> 01:42:21,168
...lousy bunch of bleeding hearts!
1968
01:42:23,524 --> 01:42:25,124
Well, you're not going to intimidate me!
1969
01:42:27,204 --> 01:42:28,404
I am entitled...
1970
01:42:29,052 --> 01:42:30,668
...to my opinion!
1971
01:42:32,962 --> 01:42:36,648
I can sit in this god damn room for a year!
1972
01:42:42,584 --> 01:42:43,884
Somebody say something...
1973
01:42:46,780 --> 01:42:47,680
Look...
1974
01:42:47,912 --> 01:42:50,048
...why don't you take all that stuff about...
1975
01:42:50,616 --> 01:42:52,402
...the old man, the old man who lived there...
1976
01:42:53,312 --> 01:42:55,412
...who heard everything...
1977
01:42:55,984 --> 01:42:59,152
...or the knife...
What, just because he found one just like it?
1978
01:42:59,176 --> 01:43:00,544
The old man saw him!
1979
01:43:01,504 --> 01:43:02,504
On the stairs!
1980
01:43:02,572 --> 01:43:06,805
What difference does it make how many
seconds it took, what is the difference?
1981
01:43:08,884 --> 01:43:12,326
Every... single thing...
1982
01:43:15,852 --> 01:43:17,352
That knife...
1983
01:43:18,264 --> 01:43:20,925
...falling through a hole in his pocket!
1984
01:43:21,820 --> 01:43:23,472
You can't prove he didn't get to the door!
1985
01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:28,100
Sure, you can hobble around here
all you want, but you can't prove it.
1986
01:43:29,176 --> 01:43:30,176
I'm telling you...
1987
01:43:30,484 --> 01:43:36,224
...every single thing... has been
twisted and turned in here!
1988
01:43:38,764 --> 01:43:42,292
That business about the eyeglasses...
You don't know whether she wore glasses...
1989
01:43:42,304 --> 01:43:46,248
The woman testified, god d...! In court!
1990
01:43:48,284 --> 01:43:49,484
What do you want?
1991
01:43:49,548 --> 01:43:50,548
That's it!
1992
01:43:53,284 --> 01:43:55,184
This whole... case...
1993
01:44:01,384 --> 01:44:02,884
...the whole thing about the boy...
1994
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:05,880
...yelling out...
1995
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,632
...the phrase was...
1996
01:44:11,344 --> 01:44:15,074
..."I am going to kill you"...
1997
01:44:18,068 --> 01:44:20,876
...and he said it to his own father!
1998
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:23,920
I don't care...
1999
01:44:24,376 --> 01:44:26,204
...what kind of a man he was,
2000
01:44:26,332 --> 01:44:28,644
it was his father!
2001
01:44:29,568 --> 01:44:32,780
God damn rotten kid!
2002
01:44:34,856 --> 01:44:38,126
I know what it's like, I know what
they can do, I know how they can...
2003
01:44:38,616 --> 01:44:41,616
...kill you... every day!
2004
01:44:43,832 --> 01:44:45,132
My god...
2005
01:44:45,968 --> 01:44:47,468
...don't you see?
2006
01:44:50,812 --> 01:44:53,112
Why am I the only one who sees?
2007
01:44:56,344 --> 01:44:57,944
Jesus...
2008
01:45:00,072 --> 01:45:04,567
I can feel the knife going in...
2009
01:45:11,312 --> 01:45:12,912
He's not your boy...
2010
01:45:13,340 --> 01:45:15,040
He's somebody else...
2011
01:45:25,244 --> 01:45:26,744
Let him live.
2012
01:45:31,692 --> 01:45:32,792
Alright...
2013
01:45:37,372 --> 01:45:38,772
Not guilty.
2014
01:46:10,252 --> 01:46:11,952
We've reached a verdict.
2015
01:46:12,036 --> 01:46:14,440
Ok jentlemen, take your
seats in the jurybox.
2016
01:47:37,596 --> 01:47:38,796
Excuse me...
2017
01:47:40,148 --> 01:47:41,448
My name's McCardle.
2018
01:47:42,024 --> 01:47:43,524
- What's yours?
- Davis.
2019
01:47:44,548 --> 01:47:45,448
Well...
2020
01:47:48,576 --> 01:47:49,776
So long...
2021
01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:15,340
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