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We're going to
have a good time.
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& Oh, yeah &
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& Yeah, yeah, yeah &
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& Oh, yeah &
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Ignition sequence.
5...4...
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3...2...1.
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Power transfer is complete.
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I didn't watch Star Trek,
the original series,
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in the first season
before I was on.
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I mean, I took one look
at the styrofoam rocks,
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and I said, "Forget it.
I'm not going to watch this."
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Tlhingan hol dajatlh'a'?
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It means, "Can you
speak Klingon?"
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You have to give
the right answer.
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Otherwise, there's
dire consequences.
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I dance at powwows, and I'm into
the lndian way of life and things,
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and I'm also a Trekker.
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It's the greatest feeling
in the world,
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and I do it about 30 to 35
to 40 times a year.
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To walk out onstage
and to feel that love
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that just pours
right out at you,
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and it's just fans.
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Kirk lmpersonator:
I've been a fan.
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I grew up with it,
so I couldn't help but be a fan.
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This is the Andorian
ambassador Edvaark,
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and I am guard number 48,
and this is guard number 28.
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That's right.
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You have to understand
that, um...
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even now, I still have--
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I still have an ongoing process
of trying to grasp all of this,
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even now.
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The name's Douglas Marcks.
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I live in Portland.
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I've been a fan of Star Trek
for a number of years.
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I mean, I actually started
watching it back in the sixties.
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You know, I've been in this
for 7 years now,
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and it's starting
to become normal.
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[Applause]
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[Cheering]
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In 1987, I auditioned for a show called
Star Trek: The Next Generation.
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Now, I must admit that I went to
this audition with some hesitation.
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I mean, after all, it was a rehash
of a cult-status sci-fi series,
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and it had a profound effect
on the original cast members' careers.
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But since I was unknown,
unemployed,
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and unclear as to where
any of this was headed,
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I went.
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What I didn't know was that
I was becoming part of something
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much larger than
just a new TV series.
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I was becoming
part of a phenomenon.
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My name is John Paladin.
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The Klingon name is Kirg.
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I'm Harminder Pal
from Glasgow, Scotland.
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My name is, um,
is...Who am l?
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You're a lieutenant
commander.
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I'm Lieutenant Commander Horatio,
and, um,
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from the starship
Battle Queen.
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My name's David Silverman.
I'm from central New Jersey.
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- Canton, Ohio.
- San Diego.
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- Virginia.
- Melbourne, Australia.
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- Biloxi, Mississippi.
- Berlin, Germany.
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I have fans that write me
from Germany, from ltaly,
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from Australia,
from England.
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I've been to conventions
in all those places.
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How many conventions
have you been to?
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Probably close to 50 or 60.
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Really?
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Yeah. I mean, like I said,
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you got to have
something to do.
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This is my third convention.
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We've been to probably
20 or 30 or more.
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I lost count, you know?
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I've been doing this
since 1969,
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so it's, uh,
I almost hate to admit
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this is my 366th convention
this weekend.
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I have attended, over the course
of about 8 years,
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28 conventions.
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I'm going to be spending
this day in preparation
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to go the Pasadena
Star Trek/ Babylon 5 convention.
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I'm going right now
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to pick up my new, tailor-made
Star Trek: First Contact uniform
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to wear tomorrow.
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Hey, Travis.
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Hey, Gabriel. How you doing?
Come on in.
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Uh, so Linda dropped it off?
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Yes, she did.
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This is the uniform
to be featured
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in Star Trek: First Contact.
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Linda Thuringer, our club's
captain and Garak impersonator,
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really outdid herself here, except
I do have a couple of minor quibbles,
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Iike the red stripe here.
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In the actual movie, it's going to be
about half this thickness,
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but she can change that easily.
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And the lines running across here are
more prominent in the actual versions,
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but then again, she can just
do some topstitching there.
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She wanted to take the legs
down a bit. I don't see why.
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But overall, fantastic.
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This is going to be
your car, Gabriel?
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I hope so,
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because I'm 14.
I'll be 15 in June.
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Another year after that,
I'll be getting my license.
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It's the Roddenberry.
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I wish it could fly.
I'm ready to go to another planet.
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I'll tell you that much.
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Gabriel: Obviously,
someone never grew out of the 1960s.
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Y eah. I spent a lot of time
in vans, that's for sure.
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We're going to put
a laser beam on the front
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so when we're driving
on a foggy day,
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we can shoot, like,
a 1,000-foot beam.
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My name is Lieutenant Commander
Barbara Adams.
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I'm commanding officer
of the U.S.S. Artemis,
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which is the Little Rock unit
of the Federation Alliance.
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I'm here at the sci-fi
convention in Boston,
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where Federation Alliance
has brought some of our things up here.
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I've come because a lot of people have
shown a lot of interest in what I did
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in going to the trial
in my uniform.
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I was selected, summoned for the jury
for the Whitewater trial
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in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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We've had a lot of curious people
asking about the organization
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and also looking into my drawings,
which I do as sort of a hobby.
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I studied graphic design,
and I enjoy drawing,
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and I also enjoy drawing
the Star Trek people.
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One of our charters
in the Federation Alliance
is to perform community service,
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and as commanding officer,
I'm the role model for my crew,
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and so I felt it was necessary and a
good decision for me to wear my uniform.
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For more than a week, everybody's seen
the picture of Barbara Adams...
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And each morning, there seemed
to be more and more reporters
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because they were waiting to see
if I was going to come in my uniform,
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and it got to the point
where there was just a wall
of cameras, tripods, reporters,
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and I would literally have
to walk all the way around them
just to get to the door
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because they would not move.
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It just got ridiculous.
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My brother had a picture of her
on our refrigerator for two months
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walking out of the courtroom
in Arkansas.
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Adams: And one of the newspapers
had reported that every day,
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I would walk past the reporters
with a Vulcan-like stoicism.
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Wow!
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So, they don't know how close
they actually hit the mark,
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because usually, before
all this brewed up,
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I would always come
to these conventions
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and our appearances
as a Vulcan.
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There was a bus driver
that I'd already met.
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He kept asking me,
"What are you going to do?
Why do you keep wearing the uniform?
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What are you going to do if
the president comes down to testify?"
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And I said,
"I'll wear my uniform."
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He said, "But it's the president
of the United States!"
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"I'll wear my uniform."
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We came to a stoplight.
He turned around and he looked at me,
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and he said,
"You are a brave woman."
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Every day, I wear
my communicator badge,
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my rank pips,
and my tricorder.
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[Badge Beeps]
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To me, as being an officer in
the Federation Alliance 24 hours a day,
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even when I'm not in uniform,
I still want that known
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that I'm at heart
a Starfleet officer.
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I used to read about her
in the newspaper, and I saw her,
and I got her autograph.
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Basically, the philosophy
behind Star Trek
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that she is so,
um, promoting...
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is the philosophy
behind an honest juror.
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That's what you need on a jury
is an open-minded person.
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Based on the ideals of Star Trek, yeah,
I think she'd be an asset.
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This is what she wants to do.
This is America.
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I mean, we should be able to do
what we want to do.
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You know, look how we want to
look, say what we want to say.
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I think she's a pretty neat lady
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to have the guts to, um,
kind of be herself,
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even on an important thing
like being a juror.
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You can put on a uniform for football
year-round, nobody cares.
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Basketball year-round,
nobody cares.
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Put on a Star Trek uniform,
people get a case of the giggles.
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I don't want my officers to ever
feel ashamed to wear their uniform.
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And...so,
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I went to a civic duty.
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What we do is community service.
I was performing my civic duty.
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I wore my uniform,
just as any other officer
in the military would wear theirs.
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I came to meet the stars.
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I like to see
a different side of the stars,
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the personal side.
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DeForest Kelley:
While I was in Florida,
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RuthAnn presented me
with this belt buckle
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on my 138th birthday.
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[Laughter]
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Now...Now then, every time
I see someone,
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they say, you know, "You look
so much younger in person."
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[Laughter]
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The first one that I did, um...
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I think was around '72.
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Um, I got a call
to come to New Y ork.
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They had done
one convention first,
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and I think it wasn't
really a convention.
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They got together
with about 35 or 40 or 50--
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the way I heard the story--
of fans of Star Trek
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that just wanted to get together and
talk about the show, which they did.
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And they said, "You know,
why don't we put our money together
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and rent a hotel ballroom?"
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"And talk about
our mutual interest
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and show each other
what we have collected so far
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in the way of tapes
or paraphernalia or photographs."
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If we could get 300 people
to attend,
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we could...we could pay for it."
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And I thought,
"They're inviting me to New Y ork?
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They said they're
willing to pay expenses
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and, you know, fly me there
and put me up in a hotel."
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I thought,
"These people are foolish."
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And, uh...
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there was something like,
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I think there were around
3,000 or 4,000 people showed up,
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and it was absolutely wild then.
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They had to call the fire
department into the hotel
to let them in in increments.
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Everything came to a dead stop.
It was jam-packed with humanity.
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The revolving doors
couldn't revolve.
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The escalators refused
to operate anymore.
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The elevators stopped working.
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And the din out there indicated
it was more than 30 people.
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The woman went onstage
and introduced me,
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and I stepped out, and the place
exploded in applause.
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Kelley: And then they were
hanging out of the balcony.
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It was like a bunch
of overaged Beatles for us, you know,
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me being there.
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Nimoy: There was hardly
a chance to speak
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because every word
created a roar.
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Every time somebody opened their mouths
to say hello, it created a roar.
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A wall of emotional sound hit you.
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And we were all
kind of taken aback
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and moved and touched by it
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because it was this
tremendous affection,
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this tremendous affection.
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And now there is
a Star Trek convention--
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There are Star Trek conventions
somewhere every weekend
all over the world.
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Hi.
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Hi there.
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Can I have
a schedule, please?
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Ah. Majel.
Definitely got to see Majel.
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She's onstage right now.
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She's on the stage now?
Ooh.
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You're going to love it.
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It was Gene's story and Gene's script,
and it was Gene's pilot.
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What time is the auction?
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The auction is 2:20
this afternoon.
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Oh, there it is.
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OK. This was worn by John Colicos
in which episode?
241
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"Blood Oath."
242
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"Blood Oath."
243
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And this is the Turtle,
as they call it.
244
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Michael Dorn calls it
the Great Turtle.
245
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Turtle head.
There's speed bumps.
246
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Uh, there's, Whoopi Goldberg
says "old lntestine Head."
247
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And, um, the other one I heard
is Rocky Mountains.
248
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That's the latest one.
249
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Here is the opening bid
for this. $500.
250
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[Audience Members Whistle]
251
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$500. We've got a $500 bid,
252
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and it's there to a Klingon.
253
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Man: I'll go 550.
254
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550.
255
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Klingon: 6.
256
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600. 600.
257
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Do I hear 650?
258
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650.
259
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1,000? $1,000!
260
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$1,000.
261
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1,100.
262
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$1,100!
263
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Klingon: $1,200.
264
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What? 1,200?
265
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Yeah.
266
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1,200. OK.
$1,200.
267
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$1,200.
268
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13.
269
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$1,300.
270
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Klingon: 14.
271
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14. $1,400.
272
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Going once.
273
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$1,400. Going twice.
274
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$1,400...sold at a bargain!
275
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[Cheering]
276
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Qapla', man.
277
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Qapla'.
278
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I was bidding
on the headpiece,
279
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and the price started
getting up to the point
280
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where I really wasn't interested
in paying that much.
281
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That Klingon
really wanted it.
282
00:14:55,225 --> 00:14:56,954
He really wanted
that headpiece. Y es.
283
00:14:57,027 --> 00:14:58,392
So, how badly
did you want it?
284
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I wouldn't have
left without it.
285
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It's a little bit of history
that I'll preserve.
286
00:15:05,002 --> 00:15:06,936
I collect the items
when I can get them,
287
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and they're wonderful to have.
288
00:15:09,006 --> 00:15:11,440
They're definitely
one-of-a-kind items.
289
00:15:11,508 --> 00:15:13,942
Man: Everything we touch,
whether it be a little piece of hair
290
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or a nose or something small,
there's a whole cult market out there
291
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where a lot of the pieces sell
for hundreds and thousands of dollars.
292
00:15:21,518 --> 00:15:27,320
What we see in these rooms
literally could run into the millions,
293
00:15:27,391 --> 00:15:29,291
you know, if we opened up
a market on the outside of it.
294
00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,329
So we're very guarded.
Everything we keep under lock and key.
295
00:15:32,396 --> 00:15:34,125
Unfortunately,
John de Lancie
296
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couldn't make it
to this show this weekend
297
00:15:36,033 --> 00:15:37,466
due to professional
commitments.
298
00:15:37,534 --> 00:15:39,468
We do have an autograph here.
299
00:15:39,536 --> 00:15:43,131
Man: Well, the Q virus
was the most bizarre thing.
300
00:15:43,207 --> 00:15:47,837
John de Lancie, who plays Q, was--
He barely made it to the convention.
301
00:15:47,911 --> 00:15:50,971
He was really sick.
I mean, very ill.
302
00:15:51,048 --> 00:15:53,812
Dizzy, questioning whether
he was going to go onstage,
303
00:15:53,884 --> 00:15:58,514
but he was a real trouper,
and he went up onstage and did his show,
304
00:15:58,589 --> 00:16:01,080
and, you know,
he left his water glass.
305
00:16:01,158 --> 00:16:05,925
And I held up the glass
and I said, "Who would be interested
in purchasing the Q virus?"
306
00:16:05,996 --> 00:16:10,262
And it was kind of a joke, but
the crowd just went absolutely crazy.
307
00:16:10,334 --> 00:16:15,271
They went bonkers for the thing.
So, you know, I went ahead
and auctioned off the glass,
308
00:16:15,339 --> 00:16:19,275
and it went for, I don't know,
40, $60 or something like this.
309
00:16:19,343 --> 00:16:23,279
And a guy bought it, and he
came up, and I said, "Look"--
310
00:16:23,347 --> 00:16:24,780
It was half-full
still of water--
311
00:16:24,848 --> 00:16:27,282
I said, "Look, you really
don't want to drink this.
312
00:16:27,351 --> 00:16:29,785
He's very sick. I mean,
he's very, very ill."
313
00:16:29,853 --> 00:16:32,117
"Oh, no, no. I want to drink it.
I want to drink it."
314
00:16:32,189 --> 00:16:34,123
And he just downed
the whole glass right there,
315
00:16:34,191 --> 00:16:37,957
And he yelled out, "I've got
the Q virus! I've got the Q virus!"
316
00:16:38,028 --> 00:16:40,963
And he planned to spread it
all over the world.
317
00:16:41,031 --> 00:16:43,226
You know, that was his thing.
318
00:16:43,367 --> 00:16:45,460
I was walking down the street
in New Y ork,
319
00:16:45,536 --> 00:16:47,800
and I caught somebody
coming towards me.
320
00:16:47,871 --> 00:16:51,136
He said, "are you Q?"
321
00:16:51,208 --> 00:16:52,641
And I said, "Y eah."
322
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:56,305
"Can you bring people back
from the dead?"
323
00:16:56,380 --> 00:17:00,077
And I went,
"Uh...only people I like."
324
00:17:00,150 --> 00:17:04,519
And he goes, "Cool."
And walked on.
325
00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:07,079
There was a fan who,
in 1973 in New York,
326
00:17:07,157 --> 00:17:09,921
came up to Jimmy Doohan,
who I was with,
327
00:17:09,993 --> 00:17:13,588
and pulled out a box
that had a hypodermic in it
328
00:17:13,664 --> 00:17:16,758
and asked Jimmy if he could
get a sample of his blood.
329
00:17:16,834 --> 00:17:18,768
A woman...
330
00:17:18,836 --> 00:17:22,272
stood up in one
of the conventions and said,
331
00:17:22,339 --> 00:17:25,876
"What's it feel like
to be beamed?"
332
00:17:26,009 --> 00:17:28,443
20 years later, he was
at a convention in New Y ork,
333
00:17:28,511 --> 00:17:32,277
and the same young man
came up to him with the same box
with the same hypodermic
334
00:17:32,349 --> 00:17:34,943
and said, "Mr. Doohan,
can I get a sample of your blood?"
335
00:17:35,018 --> 00:17:37,953
He was still doing
the same thing 20 years later.
336
00:17:38,021 --> 00:17:39,147
Man: There's one gentleman
337
00:17:39,222 --> 00:17:42,419
who for about, what, 10 years?
338
00:17:42,492 --> 00:17:44,323
Second Man: Almost the whole run.
339
00:17:44,394 --> 00:17:47,454
Almost the whole run of since
the beginning of The Next Generation
340
00:17:47,530 --> 00:17:52,627
has been sending something
in the mail every day to Star Trek.
341
00:17:52,702 --> 00:17:54,294
Every day.
342
00:17:54,371 --> 00:17:57,135
The funny thing is, it has
nothing to do with Star Trek.
343
00:17:57,207 --> 00:18:00,074
He sends us travel brochures,
344
00:18:00,143 --> 00:18:02,907
um...and that's all he sends.
345
00:18:02,979 --> 00:18:06,415
And postcards talking about
where he travels.
346
00:18:06,483 --> 00:18:09,247
Or sometimes, he describes--
Well, look at this one.
347
00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:14,416
We've got a Victoria's Secret
catalog that he sent...
348
00:18:14,491 --> 00:18:17,085
Something about a mission,
349
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,425
a fruit trees
and landscaping catalog,
350
00:18:20,497 --> 00:18:22,931
Caribbean, Hawaii,
351
00:18:22,999 --> 00:18:24,762
Canada, Australia.
352
00:18:24,834 --> 00:18:29,430
He also will sometimes send
postcards talking about
what he had for lunch that day
353
00:18:29,506 --> 00:18:32,441
or what he ate or how many
cups of coffee he drank,
354
00:18:32,509 --> 00:18:36,275
and it's always to Star Trek,
but it's never about Star Trek.
355
00:18:36,346 --> 00:18:38,109
And we always wondered
about this guy.
356
00:18:38,181 --> 00:18:41,947
Who is he? Where is he from?
And why is he sending us these things?
357
00:18:42,018 --> 00:18:43,952
And if you-- Over 10 years, every day,
358
00:18:44,020 --> 00:18:45,681
that's quite a few packages.
359
00:18:49,526 --> 00:18:50,584
Man: OK. Here we go.
360
00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:52,525
Woman: Rolling.
361
00:18:52,595 --> 00:18:54,290
And action, please.
362
00:18:54,364 --> 00:18:56,628
Maybe you didn't read the crew roster,
363
00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:02,366
but my name is Dax, and I'm the new
science officer on this garbage scow,
364
00:19:02,439 --> 00:19:05,567
and you were in my seat.
365
00:19:05,642 --> 00:19:08,406
And cut! Very nice.
366
00:19:08,478 --> 00:19:10,912
LeVar Burton: There was a young man
who was confined to a wheelchair,
367
00:19:10,981 --> 00:19:13,973
and his name was Jordan La Forge.
368
00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:17,417
The young man was given
6 months to a year to live,
369
00:19:17,487 --> 00:19:20,923
and, uh, he attributes
the fact that he lived
370
00:19:20,991 --> 00:19:23,425
for many years after his prognosis
371
00:19:23,493 --> 00:19:25,518
to the fact that he watched Star Trek.
372
00:19:25,595 --> 00:19:28,029
Finally, when he did pass away,
373
00:19:28,098 --> 00:19:31,932
Gene just thought that
having somebody in that place,
374
00:19:32,002 --> 00:19:36,098
you know, as Geordi,
would be a perfect example,
375
00:19:36,172 --> 00:19:40,131
a perfect sort of-- A nice thing
to do in memory of him.
376
00:19:40,210 --> 00:19:42,110
Originally, Geordi
was the pilot of the ship,
377
00:19:42,178 --> 00:19:44,772
so he wanted the pilot to be,
you know, the blind man,
378
00:19:44,848 --> 00:19:47,442
and the blind man is the one
that's flying this ship.
379
00:19:54,224 --> 00:19:55,782
I watched the original series
380
00:19:55,859 --> 00:19:58,794
with my mother and brother
when I was a kid,
381
00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:01,797
and I enjoyed it.
382
00:20:01,865 --> 00:20:06,131
At this point, I enjoy
his enthusiasm more.
383
00:20:06,202 --> 00:20:11,299
I enjoy the shows, I enjoy
the conventions, I like dressing up,
384
00:20:11,374 --> 00:20:17,802
I love dressing her up,
but I enjoy his fanaticism.
385
00:20:17,881 --> 00:20:19,280
It's contagious.
386
00:20:19,349 --> 00:20:23,615
Crosby: And what makes you
a fanatic as opposed to a fan?
387
00:20:23,686 --> 00:20:26,314
I think the fact that
I'm so much into it.
388
00:20:26,389 --> 00:20:31,326
I do a lot of collecting.
I relate to so much of it.
389
00:20:31,394 --> 00:20:33,658
I know a lot about it.
390
00:20:33,730 --> 00:20:38,167
It's more than just a casual
"l enjoy the show, I enjoy the concept."
391
00:20:38,234 --> 00:20:40,259
I'm really into it.
392
00:20:40,336 --> 00:20:42,327
This is the Trek room.
393
00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:43,997
This is, you know, my room.
394
00:20:44,074 --> 00:20:45,632
I can design it
the way I want.
395
00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:47,175
I can put what I want in it.
396
00:20:47,243 --> 00:20:49,040
Woman: Although you do notice
it's spilling out
397
00:20:49,112 --> 00:20:51,046
into the other areas
of the house.
398
00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:52,581
Y es.
399
00:20:52,649 --> 00:20:54,674
This is the bathroom,
400
00:20:54,751 --> 00:20:57,185
and we've carried
the Trek theme in here.
401
00:20:57,253 --> 00:21:01,121
We have our Starfleet towel set,
402
00:21:01,191 --> 00:21:04,126
and all of our
Federation blue tile here.
403
00:21:04,194 --> 00:21:08,130
We offset it with these
3 hand-painted Trek tiles--
404
00:21:08,198 --> 00:21:11,634
the planets, the Enterprise,
and one of the enemy.
405
00:21:11,701 --> 00:21:14,135
George Takei: We asked whether
we might visit Cape Canaveral,
406
00:21:14,204 --> 00:21:17,935
Nichelle and l, and we peered
in one of the portholes,
407
00:21:18,007 --> 00:21:21,306
and there were astronauts
working in that.
408
00:21:21,377 --> 00:21:27,316
They turned around and looked,
and they recognized our
two faces peering in at them,
409
00:21:27,383 --> 00:21:30,648
and you should have
seen their eyes light up.
410
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,484
And they came scrambling
out of that place,
411
00:21:33,556 --> 00:21:40,155
and the first thing they did was ask us,
"Can we have your autographs, please?"
412
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:43,165
We went there
to get their autographs,
413
00:21:43,233 --> 00:21:48,261
and they in turn
were asking us for ours.
414
00:21:48,338 --> 00:21:50,806
Buzz Aldrin: Star Trek
came along at a time
415
00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:53,604
when I think the public
was really kind of hungry
416
00:21:53,676 --> 00:21:55,610
for that sort of adventure,
417
00:21:55,678 --> 00:22:00,945
and it went a long ways toward
stimulating a lot of interest
into the space program.
418
00:22:01,017 --> 00:22:02,951
Star Trek is a cultural icon,
419
00:22:03,019 --> 00:22:04,782
and it's part of the lexicon now.
420
00:22:04,854 --> 00:22:08,449
As a psychotherapist, I have
Star Trek stuff in my office,
421
00:22:08,525 --> 00:22:13,292
and I use Star Trek metaphors
that everyone understands,
even if they're not a fan.
422
00:22:13,363 --> 00:22:16,799
For example, when I talk about
people having a defensive reaction,
423
00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:19,630
I talk about the shields going up,
and everyone knows what that means,
424
00:22:19,702 --> 00:22:21,329
even if they're not a fan.
425
00:22:21,404 --> 00:22:23,804
The front part of my office-- that is,
the part that the patients see--
426
00:22:23,873 --> 00:22:25,704
is a pretty straightforward
surgical office.
427
00:22:25,775 --> 00:22:30,474
My own private consulting room
is just filled with Star Trek stuff.
428
00:22:30,613 --> 00:22:32,137
I'm Denis Bourguignon.
429
00:22:32,215 --> 00:22:36,652
This is my son Doug,
my wife Shelley,
430
00:22:36,719 --> 00:22:38,516
and my daughter Kayla.
431
00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:40,249
Crosby: We're here
in Orlando, Florida,
432
00:22:40,323 --> 00:22:42,484
at the dental offices
of Dr. Denis Bourguignon.
433
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,891
- Denis: Good morning.
- Good morning. How are you?
434
00:22:44,961 --> 00:22:48,055
- Pleasure to see you.
Welcome to Star Base Dental.
- Good to see you.
435
00:22:48,131 --> 00:22:52,090
Denis, Voice-Over: We originally decided
that we wanted to go with Star Trek
436
00:22:52,168 --> 00:22:57,196
because we find that Star Trek, the
episodes are always geared with a moral.
437
00:22:57,273 --> 00:23:02,108
They're good-doers, and we wanted
to portray dentistry or dentists
438
00:23:02,178 --> 00:23:03,406
as good-doers.
439
00:23:03,479 --> 00:23:05,572
Crosby:
So, um, this is reception.
440
00:23:05,648 --> 00:23:08,082
Denis: Yes. This is reception.
This is where the patients check in.
441
00:23:08,151 --> 00:23:09,778
This is our holodeck
over here on the left.
442
00:23:09,852 --> 00:23:11,911
This is where I do
most of my work.
443
00:23:11,988 --> 00:23:15,617
This is where you get fillings,
crowns, dentures, things like that.
444
00:23:15,692 --> 00:23:18,786
We were just in a sci-fi store
one day, Shelley and l,
445
00:23:18,861 --> 00:23:21,955
and we kind of looked at
each other, and we said, "Hey."
446
00:23:22,031 --> 00:23:23,965
[Together]
You thinking what I'm thinking?
447
00:23:24,033 --> 00:23:26,263
And we said,
"Let's try it."
448
00:23:26,336 --> 00:23:28,998
[Transporter Sound Effect]
449
00:23:29,072 --> 00:23:31,506
Two weeks later, we just
closed down the office over the weekend,
450
00:23:31,574 --> 00:23:33,474
and we bought up
everything we could find,
451
00:23:33,543 --> 00:23:36,137
and, boom!
We did a Star Base Dental.
452
00:23:36,212 --> 00:23:38,203
As you can see, our transporter
is up in the ceiling over here.
453
00:23:38,281 --> 00:23:43,150
It transports you away from here
while we're working on you.
454
00:23:43,219 --> 00:23:45,483
These are some
nice pieces over here.
455
00:23:45,555 --> 00:23:48,820
These are my cement handprints
of some of the stars.
456
00:23:48,891 --> 00:23:50,483
You're about
James Doohan's size.
457
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,653
Crosby: No, wait.
There's a finger missing!
458
00:23:52,729 --> 00:23:54,162
A gardening accident.
459
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:55,561
I never knew that.
460
00:23:55,632 --> 00:23:56,997
This is the first theme office
I worked in.
461
00:23:57,066 --> 00:23:58,158
I really like it.
It's neat.
462
00:23:58,234 --> 00:24:00,099
It's fun to come to work.
463
00:24:00,169 --> 00:24:01,602
Yeah. It's different
to come to work.
464
00:24:01,671 --> 00:24:03,935
You don't know what's
going to be around.
465
00:24:04,007 --> 00:24:06,100
They bring something different
in all the time.
466
00:24:06,175 --> 00:24:08,939
Every morning you come in,
you wonder, "Well, what's
going to be on these walls
467
00:24:09,012 --> 00:24:10,877
that wasn't here before?"
468
00:24:10,947 --> 00:24:12,437
The uniform
I wouldn't do at first.
469
00:24:12,515 --> 00:24:15,951
I told them no.
That wasn't possible for me.
470
00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,453
Crosby: And you just--
How long did you hold out?
471
00:24:18,521 --> 00:24:20,455
Uh, about--
Almost a year.
472
00:24:20,523 --> 00:24:23,287
Almost a year before I was--
I was the last one to put it on.
473
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,793
What made you finally turn the corner?
474
00:24:25,862 --> 00:24:27,454
He told me I had to.
475
00:24:27,530 --> 00:24:28,462
[Laughter]
476
00:24:28,531 --> 00:24:29,964
She cried a few times.
477
00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:31,466
He told me I had to.
478
00:24:31,534 --> 00:24:33,468
We actually dress up
like this at home,
479
00:24:33,536 --> 00:24:36,869
and we take turns being different
characters, and it helps our, um...
480
00:24:36,939 --> 00:24:38,270
- Relationship. Yeah.
- Yeah, it does.
481
00:24:38,341 --> 00:24:40,901
-Always going out with different people.
-Crosby: Really?
482
00:24:40,977 --> 00:24:42,638
Yeah. I haven't done you yet
because I'm not tall enough,
483
00:24:42,712 --> 00:24:43,974
so he usually puts a wig on.
484
00:24:44,047 --> 00:24:45,981
He has to portray you.
485
00:24:46,049 --> 00:24:47,812
And then I have to
be Data or Quark.
486
00:24:47,884 --> 00:24:49,977
Yeah, Quark.
Sometimes Quark.
487
00:24:51,454 --> 00:24:53,149
Crosby: And how do
the patients respond?
488
00:24:53,222 --> 00:24:55,025
Most of them like it.
489
00:24:55,158 --> 00:24:57,991
I think the Star Trek theme
in the dentist's office is great.
490
00:24:58,061 --> 00:24:59,892
It takes your mind off
where you really are.
491
00:24:59,963 --> 00:25:02,090
It's not like any other
dentist office I've ever been in,
492
00:25:02,165 --> 00:25:03,496
that's for sure.
493
00:25:03,566 --> 00:25:07,093
Denis: Most people,
even if they don't like Star Trek,
494
00:25:07,170 --> 00:25:09,195
Iike the idea of it.
495
00:25:09,272 --> 00:25:12,935
I've only had one person
who didn't like the idea,
496
00:25:13,009 --> 00:25:17,105
but he wasn't happy about his bill
in the first place, so...
497
00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:18,442
Denis: Good afternoon, Preston.
How you doing?
498
00:25:18,515 --> 00:25:19,447
Hey, Denis. How are you?
499
00:25:19,516 --> 00:25:20,778
Good to see you.
Come on back.
500
00:25:20,850 --> 00:25:22,841
Let's go ahead
and get you going here.
501
00:25:22,919 --> 00:25:25,786
Go ahead
and take a look here.
502
00:25:25,855 --> 00:25:29,621
Number two, occlusal lingual.
503
00:25:29,692 --> 00:25:31,626
Number 3 crown.
504
00:25:31,694 --> 00:25:34,993
Denis, Voice-Over:
Shelley and I started in another office
at about the same time,
505
00:25:35,065 --> 00:25:38,398
and Shelley started
as the front-desk receptionist.
506
00:25:38,468 --> 00:25:39,935
After about a while,
she liked dentistry so much,
507
00:25:40,003 --> 00:25:42,301
she decided she wanted
to maybe assist,
508
00:25:42,372 --> 00:25:45,808
so I brought her back,
and I taught her to assist,
509
00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:48,469
and, uh...we worked
very well together,
510
00:25:48,545 --> 00:25:50,979
so we decided to make it
a bond for life,
511
00:25:51,047 --> 00:25:53,914
and we're together now forever.
512
00:25:53,983 --> 00:25:56,417
I'm dressed as a NASA astronaut
513
00:25:56,486 --> 00:25:58,420
that was actually killed
514
00:25:58,488 --> 00:26:01,423
that they investigated
the death of
515
00:26:01,491 --> 00:26:03,925
in an episode called
"The Royale"
516
00:26:03,993 --> 00:26:05,927
of The Next Generation--
517
00:26:05,995 --> 00:26:08,930
Um, at least, that was
the original idea,
518
00:26:08,998 --> 00:26:12,434
and then I kind of
moved on. Ha ha!
519
00:26:12,502 --> 00:26:15,437
Kind of character-developed it
a little bit.
520
00:26:15,505 --> 00:26:18,440
Instead of it being him,
it's his wife.
521
00:26:18,508 --> 00:26:20,442
Ha ha ha!
522
00:26:20,577 --> 00:26:23,444
So what is your interest
in Star Trek?
523
00:26:23,513 --> 00:26:24,946
Mainly Brent--
Brent Spiner--
524
00:26:25,014 --> 00:26:26,447
Lieutenant Commander Data
525
00:26:26,516 --> 00:26:28,950
on The Next Generation,
as you well know.
526
00:26:29,018 --> 00:26:31,009
Ha ha!
Yes, I know him well.
527
00:26:31,087 --> 00:26:32,520
Now, you guys call yourself...
528
00:26:32,589 --> 00:26:34,022
Spiner femmes.
529
00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:35,557
- Spiner femmes.
- Yes.
530
00:26:35,625 --> 00:26:37,058
Spiner femmes?
I like that.
531
00:26:37,127 --> 00:26:38,560
It's good, isn't it?
532
00:26:38,628 --> 00:26:41,256
Spiner femmes.
I think there's a series in that.
533
00:26:41,331 --> 00:26:42,992
This is my Brent page.
534
00:26:43,066 --> 00:26:44,624
When I find out
that somebody else
535
00:26:44,701 --> 00:26:46,726
has discovered Brent
through my web page,
536
00:26:46,803 --> 00:26:49,795
I feel really good about it.
I feel-- Yeah, it's another fan here.
537
00:26:49,873 --> 00:26:52,171
Let other people outside
of the Star Trek universe
538
00:26:52,242 --> 00:26:54,472
know who he is.
He's not just Data.
539
00:26:54,544 --> 00:26:57,479
This is where I keep--
right down here--
540
00:26:57,547 --> 00:26:59,481
I keep...
541
00:26:59,549 --> 00:27:02,143
all the important
collectibles.
542
00:27:02,218 --> 00:27:04,812
Got the videos,
T-shirts, mugs--
543
00:27:04,888 --> 00:27:06,583
the important stuff.
544
00:27:06,656 --> 00:27:09,591
If there's an earthquake, a fire,
I want this stuff to be intact.
545
00:27:09,659 --> 00:27:12,423
This is my photo album.
These are more convention photos
546
00:27:12,495 --> 00:27:14,429
and more convention photos
547
00:27:14,497 --> 00:27:17,432
and even more convention
photos and...
548
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:19,661
Ha ha ha! It goes on for days.
549
00:27:19,736 --> 00:27:22,671
These ones--
I always put them in
550
00:27:22,739 --> 00:27:24,673
so they're all facing
the same order.
551
00:27:24,741 --> 00:27:27,175
Once I get through with these,
552
00:27:27,243 --> 00:27:29,370
then it switches to ones
this way.
553
00:27:29,445 --> 00:27:32,437
Saves having to turn the photo album
every two minutes.
554
00:27:32,515 --> 00:27:34,107
Palm Springs convention.
This is actually--
555
00:27:34,184 --> 00:27:37,119
I took over 100 pictures
at the Palm Springs convention,
556
00:27:37,187 --> 00:27:38,779
and when I got them back,
557
00:27:38,855 --> 00:27:41,119
I took a picture
of all the pictures I took.
558
00:27:41,191 --> 00:27:43,625
A lot of these are enlargements
of convention photos.
559
00:27:43,693 --> 00:27:45,718
I had a calendar made up one year
560
00:27:45,795 --> 00:27:47,888
for a couple of friends
for Christmas presents.
561
00:27:47,964 --> 00:27:49,397
That's my back right there.
562
00:27:49,465 --> 00:27:51,899
I gave him--
It was a Texas stamp they issued,
563
00:27:51,968 --> 00:27:53,401
and they issued a sheet
564
00:27:53,469 --> 00:27:55,903
that told about the background
of Texas and all that.
565
00:27:55,972 --> 00:27:57,667
I ordered it
from the post office
566
00:27:57,740 --> 00:27:59,765
and framed it for him
since he's from Texas.
567
00:27:59,842 --> 00:28:01,503
Spiner: I don't get
much stuff anymore
568
00:28:01,578 --> 00:28:04,138
because I've sort of let it be known
when I've done conventions and stuff
569
00:28:04,214 --> 00:28:07,149
that it wasn't necessary and it wasn't
really a good idea because--
570
00:28:07,217 --> 00:28:10,653
that the people should be spending
their money on me, you know? Ha ha!
571
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,156
I mean, I tried
to express that we do OK
572
00:28:14,224 --> 00:28:17,557
and that they should really,
you know, save their money.
573
00:28:17,627 --> 00:28:20,027
Woman: It's not about the money.
It gives me a good feeling.
574
00:28:20,096 --> 00:28:22,530
I like to do that
for my friends, too.
575
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,931
If I can find
something unusual--
576
00:28:25,001 --> 00:28:27,231
I like to get unusual gifts
for people.
577
00:28:27,303 --> 00:28:28,895
After I'd lived here
about a year
578
00:28:28,972 --> 00:28:30,564
and I found out
where Brent lived,
579
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,938
I realized I could just see--
I can't see his house,
580
00:28:33,009 --> 00:28:34,442
but I can see the hill--
581
00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:37,274
the top of the hill
that he lives at the bottom of
582
00:28:37,347 --> 00:28:39,440
from the balcony,
and so when I'm stressed out,
583
00:28:39,515 --> 00:28:42,279
I come out here sometimes
and just sit out here for a few minutes
584
00:28:42,352 --> 00:28:43,944
to take what I call
a "Brent break"
585
00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:46,045
and just kind of gaze
off in that direction
586
00:28:46,122 --> 00:28:47,521
and daydream
for a little while.
587
00:28:47,657 --> 00:28:49,522
Crosby: What are some
of your favorite things
588
00:28:49,592 --> 00:28:51,526
that you like to do
at conventions?
589
00:28:51,594 --> 00:28:53,027
Ever heard of filking?
590
00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:54,529
No. Tell me what that is.
591
00:28:54,597 --> 00:28:56,030
Science-fiction
folk singing.
592
00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:57,532
Uh, could you explain that?
593
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,534
Well, actually
I could give you an example.
594
00:28:59,602 --> 00:29:00,967
Perfect.
595
00:29:01,037 --> 00:29:04,404
Uh, episode of the original series
called "Space Seed,"
596
00:29:04,474 --> 00:29:07,910
which was the launching
for the second movie,
597
00:29:07,977 --> 00:29:09,569
The Wrath Of Khan.
598
00:29:09,646 --> 00:29:14,413
There is a song.
The song is called Vow of Vengeance.
599
00:29:14,484 --> 00:29:16,918
It's Khan's vow.
600
00:29:18,821 --> 00:29:20,254
Let's-- Let's see.
601
00:29:20,323 --> 00:29:22,757
& The summer sunlight &
602
00:29:22,825 --> 00:29:25,419
& The howling at night &
603
00:29:25,495 --> 00:29:27,929
& The blood of friends spilled &
604
00:29:27,997 --> 00:29:29,760
& On the sand &
605
00:29:29,832 --> 00:29:32,266
& I'll meet some quick death &
606
00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:34,428
& She breathes her last breath &
607
00:29:34,504 --> 00:29:38,941
& And dies as I cling to her hand &
608
00:29:39,008 --> 00:29:42,102
& Mere mortals you be &
609
00:29:42,178 --> 00:29:45,113
& The truth you can see &
610
00:29:45,181 --> 00:29:48,947
& You think you have right but-- &
611
00:29:49,018 --> 00:29:50,451
[Quietly]
And you-- Wait, wait.
612
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,112
It's been a while
since I've sung it.
613
00:29:52,188 --> 00:29:53,951
& You think-- &
614
00:29:54,023 --> 00:29:55,047
No.
615
00:29:55,191 --> 00:29:56,590
Action!
616
00:29:56,659 --> 00:29:58,490
An alliance
with the Borg?
617
00:29:58,561 --> 00:30:01,359
Janeway:
More like an exchange.
618
00:30:01,431 --> 00:30:04,457
If we teach the Borg how
to modify their own nanoprobes,
619
00:30:04,534 --> 00:30:07,469
they'd have a blueprint to create
a weapon to fight the aliens.
620
00:30:07,537 --> 00:30:08,765
Cut!
621
00:30:08,838 --> 00:30:11,272
When I am asked to go
to a hospital,
622
00:30:11,341 --> 00:30:12,774
it's a specific boy,
623
00:30:12,842 --> 00:30:14,776
and he's not going to be there
624
00:30:14,844 --> 00:30:16,778
the next time I go
to that hospital,
625
00:30:16,846 --> 00:30:18,780
and it means a great deal to him
626
00:30:18,848 --> 00:30:20,338
that I be honest with him
627
00:30:20,416 --> 00:30:22,714
in that hour that we share
together, you know?
628
00:30:22,785 --> 00:30:24,218
That can change your life.
629
00:30:24,287 --> 00:30:26,983
There's a woman
who's almost totally paralyzed,
630
00:30:27,056 --> 00:30:29,320
and she was able
to just kind of
631
00:30:29,392 --> 00:30:31,485
with the help
of an interpreter say,
632
00:30:31,561 --> 00:30:33,995
"For the hour
that you are on"--
633
00:30:34,063 --> 00:30:35,496
meaning Star Trek is on--
634
00:30:35,565 --> 00:30:40,559
"l forget the body
that I am imprisoned in."
635
00:30:40,636 --> 00:30:44,003
I got a fan letter
from a young lady.
636
00:30:48,077 --> 00:30:50,978
It was a suicide note.
637
00:30:51,047 --> 00:30:54,505
So l, uh-- I called her.
638
00:30:54,584 --> 00:30:58,520
I said,
"Hey, this is Jimmy Doohan--
639
00:30:58,588 --> 00:31:00,954
Scotty of Star Trek."
640
00:31:01,023 --> 00:31:03,958
I said, "I'm doing
a convention in lndianapolis.
641
00:31:04,026 --> 00:31:06,961
I want to see you there."
642
00:31:08,531 --> 00:31:12,968
I saw her.
Boy, I'm telling you--blah.
643
00:31:13,035 --> 00:31:15,469
I couldn't believe what I saw.
644
00:31:15,538 --> 00:31:18,974
That was--
She was definitely suicidal.
645
00:31:19,041 --> 00:31:20,474
You know...
646
00:31:20,543 --> 00:31:23,478
somebody had to help her
somehow, you know,
647
00:31:23,546 --> 00:31:25,480
and obviously
she wasn't going
648
00:31:25,548 --> 00:31:27,982
to the right people,
you know.
649
00:31:29,552 --> 00:31:33,488
Anyhow, I said to her--
I said, "I'm doing a convention
650
00:31:33,556 --> 00:31:36,491
two weeks from now in St. Louis,
651
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,995
and two weeks from then
in something," you know,
652
00:31:40,062 --> 00:31:42,997
and then eventually--
she also came to New York.
653
00:31:43,065 --> 00:31:47,001
She was able to afford
to go to these places
654
00:31:47,069 --> 00:31:49,503
and everything else, so, uh...
655
00:31:49,572 --> 00:31:52,837
And then that went on
for 2 or 3 years...
656
00:31:54,410 --> 00:31:56,503
maybe 18 times...
657
00:31:56,579 --> 00:32:00,447
and all I did was talk
positive things to her,
658
00:32:00,516 --> 00:32:02,609
and then all of a sudden--
Pfft! Nothing.
659
00:32:02,685 --> 00:32:04,118
I didn't hear anything,
660
00:32:04,187 --> 00:32:07,122
and I had no idea
what was happening to her
661
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:11,456
because I really never saved
her address, right?
662
00:32:11,527 --> 00:32:15,964
8 years later,
I get a letter...
663
00:32:17,533 --> 00:32:19,967
saying, "l do want
to thank you so much
664
00:32:20,036 --> 00:32:21,970
for what you did for me
665
00:32:22,038 --> 00:32:26,975
because I just got
my master's degree
666
00:32:27,043 --> 00:32:28,977
in electronic engineering."
667
00:32:30,546 --> 00:32:32,980
You know, that's...
668
00:32:33,049 --> 00:32:35,984
to me, the best thing
I've ever done in my life,
669
00:32:36,052 --> 00:32:38,987
and it brings
tears to my eyes
670
00:32:39,055 --> 00:32:42,123
every time I even talk
about the story.
671
00:32:42,256 --> 00:32:44,690
Shatner: Over a period
of several years,
672
00:32:44,758 --> 00:32:47,090
we've raised several
hundred thousand dollars
673
00:32:47,161 --> 00:32:49,994
for these 3 charities.
This is what Star Trek does.
674
00:32:50,064 --> 00:32:52,999
Star Trek is part entertainment
and part philosophy,
675
00:32:53,067 --> 00:32:56,002
and this part of Star Trek
goes unnoticed
676
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:58,095
to most of the public.
677
00:32:58,172 --> 00:32:59,764
I have a question.
Have you thought
678
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,034
about actually talking
to schoolteachers?
679
00:33:01,108 --> 00:33:02,700
I'm a schoolteacher--
and talking to schools
680
00:33:02,776 --> 00:33:04,710
and getting them
to talk to the kids about it?
681
00:33:04,778 --> 00:33:06,541
- Can you help us organize that?
- Sure!
682
00:33:06,614 --> 00:33:07,876
Woman:
I teach kindergarten,
683
00:33:07,948 --> 00:33:10,610
so sometimes it's a little hard
for them to grasp
684
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,777
the concept of racial diversity
and ethnic diversity,
685
00:33:12,853 --> 00:33:15,287
so if you have a show
like Star Trek
686
00:33:15,356 --> 00:33:17,119
that shows a bunch of different aliens
687
00:33:17,191 --> 00:33:19,056
and a bunch
of different-colored people
688
00:33:19,126 --> 00:33:21,060
and different types of people
all getting along,
689
00:33:21,128 --> 00:33:23,062
it works wonderfully
to illustrate that point.
690
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:27,066
Star Trek has changed the way
that I teach science,
691
00:33:27,134 --> 00:33:28,567
specifically space science.
692
00:33:28,636 --> 00:33:31,969
By giving children
an immediate frame of reference
693
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,475
that they know of,
that they can get excited about,
694
00:33:35,543 --> 00:33:37,067
it just inspires
their imagination.
695
00:33:37,144 --> 00:33:39,476
This is something
we've been excited about
696
00:33:39,547 --> 00:33:40,980
because it's carried on.
697
00:33:41,048 --> 00:33:43,812
Having Kate Mulgrew portray
the captain on the Voyager...
698
00:33:43,884 --> 00:33:45,977
They feel that it's the first time
699
00:33:46,053 --> 00:33:48,146
that they can sit down as a family
700
00:33:48,222 --> 00:33:50,315
and view a woman
in a leadership role
701
00:33:50,391 --> 00:33:52,985
as a family without having to
carry on a conversation
702
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:55,688
about who's being victimized
or what does she stand for.
703
00:33:55,763 --> 00:33:59,199
She is so obviously a woman
of authority and strength,
704
00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:03,134
but she's not a witch
with a capital "B," you know?
705
00:34:03,204 --> 00:34:05,502
She's-- She's just
a person in authority.
706
00:34:05,573 --> 00:34:09,009
I get a great deal of mail
from women who say
707
00:34:09,076 --> 00:34:11,442
that they watch Voyager
with their daughters
708
00:34:11,512 --> 00:34:13,946
and how good it makes them feel
709
00:34:14,014 --> 00:34:17,450
to be able to point
to the screen and say,
710
00:34:17,518 --> 00:34:19,713
"See? You can be anything."
711
00:34:19,787 --> 00:34:21,652
What do you want to do
when you grow up?
712
00:34:21,722 --> 00:34:22,814
Be an astronaut.
713
00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:24,118
Mae Carol Jemison--
714
00:34:24,191 --> 00:34:25,624
first African-American
woman in space.
715
00:34:25,693 --> 00:34:27,126
She flew on the shuttle--
716
00:34:27,194 --> 00:34:29,128
became a scientist first
and then an astronaut
717
00:34:29,196 --> 00:34:30,629
because she saw
Nichelle Nichols
718
00:34:30,698 --> 00:34:32,290
on the original
Star Trek series
719
00:34:32,366 --> 00:34:34,095
and said, "You know what?
That's for me."
720
00:34:34,168 --> 00:34:36,466
There were two little girls
721
00:34:36,537 --> 00:34:40,473
around 9 years old,
8 years old,
722
00:34:40,541 --> 00:34:42,975
when Star Trek
first came on,
723
00:34:43,043 --> 00:34:47,480
and one of them told me
years later,
724
00:34:47,548 --> 00:34:53,976
"l looked on that television
and I saw you.
725
00:34:54,054 --> 00:34:56,989
I saw this black lady,
726
00:34:57,057 --> 00:35:00,424
and I ran through the house
screaming,
727
00:35:00,494 --> 00:35:01,927
Come quick! Come quick!
728
00:35:01,996 --> 00:35:03,930
There's a black lady
on television,
729
00:35:03,998 --> 00:35:05,932
and she ain't no maid!"
730
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,434
Ha ha ha!
731
00:35:08,502 --> 00:35:12,438
And she said,
"l knew right then and there
732
00:35:12,506 --> 00:35:14,940
I could be anybody
I wanted to be.
733
00:35:15,009 --> 00:35:17,443
I could be anything
I wanted to be."
734
00:35:17,511 --> 00:35:19,945
And so she decided to be
a superstar.
735
00:35:20,014 --> 00:35:22,505
Ha ha! And her name
is Whoopi Goldberg.
736
00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:24,015
I'm Joyce Mason.
737
00:35:24,084 --> 00:35:25,711
And I'm Evelyn de Biase.
738
00:35:25,786 --> 00:35:28,846
And we host a radio show called
Talk Trek and Beyond.
739
00:35:28,922 --> 00:35:30,355
The way it got started was,
740
00:35:30,424 --> 00:35:32,255
we were on our lunch hour
one time at work,
741
00:35:32,326 --> 00:35:34,760
and we thought
about Trek-- talking Trek.
742
00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,956
You know, it's a lot of fun,
something we do a lot of,
743
00:35:38,032 --> 00:35:40,466
so we decided it would be
a great radio show.
744
00:35:40,534 --> 00:35:43,469
How do you do it?
Well, I called up
745
00:35:43,537 --> 00:35:45,471
the directory assistance
on the phone,
746
00:35:45,539 --> 00:35:49,475
and I asked for the telephone number
of a radio station,
747
00:35:49,543 --> 00:35:50,976
and she asked me...
748
00:35:51,045 --> 00:35:52,478
"Which one do you want?"
749
00:35:52,546 --> 00:35:54,480
I didn't know,
so I said, "Pick one."
750
00:35:54,548 --> 00:35:55,981
And she did.
751
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:58,518
She picked out
this radio station--KAV.
752
00:35:58,585 --> 00:36:00,450
We packed up our things,
went over.
753
00:36:00,521 --> 00:36:02,455
Two weeks later,
we were on the air.
754
00:36:02,523 --> 00:36:03,956
First time.
755
00:36:04,024 --> 00:36:06,458
That was 7 years ago,
and we're still on!
756
00:36:06,527 --> 00:36:09,519
Ha ha ha! And it's been
a lot of fun.
757
00:36:09,596 --> 00:36:12,531
We didn't have the foggiest idea
what we were doing that first night,
758
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:14,897
but--
And we still don't. Ha ha!
759
00:36:14,968 --> 00:36:16,902
Man:...a convention on the air.
760
00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:18,437
[Fanfare Playing]
761
00:36:20,007 --> 00:36:22,441
Evening, gentle beings.
How are you all doing tonight?
762
00:36:22,509 --> 00:36:24,773
Welcome to Talk Trek and Beyond.
This is Joyce.
763
00:36:24,845 --> 00:36:26,369
We're delighted
to be with you.
764
00:36:26,447 --> 00:36:28,039
We're going to have
a good time tonight.
765
00:36:28,115 --> 00:36:31,209
We have a very special guest
with us-- Denise Crosby.
766
00:36:31,285 --> 00:36:34,311
Denise Crosby!
Yay! Woo-hoo!
767
00:36:34,388 --> 00:36:35,821
Hey, guys,
are you ready?
768
00:36:35,889 --> 00:36:38,881
I know that our listeners
are just dying to talk to you.
769
00:36:38,959 --> 00:36:40,893
Hey, John in Portland, Oregon,
on line one.
770
00:36:40,961 --> 00:36:42,394
Hey, Portland!
771
00:36:42,463 --> 00:36:44,897
John: Yes, hi, you guys.
Hi, Denise.
772
00:36:44,965 --> 00:36:46,398
Crosby: Hi, John.
773
00:36:46,467 --> 00:36:48,901
One thing I'd like to say--
without "Skin of Evil,"
774
00:36:48,969 --> 00:36:50,903
there could have been
no "Yesterday's Enterprise."
775
00:36:50,971 --> 00:36:53,235
Right, exactly. There's some irony
in that, isn't there?
776
00:36:53,307 --> 00:36:55,741
- Yes.
- I mean, I always felt I had to die
777
00:36:55,809 --> 00:36:58,004
and get off the show
to get the best episode.
778
00:36:58,078 --> 00:37:00,945
I love this-- being able to talk
to you like this
779
00:37:01,014 --> 00:37:02,948
because when the show
originally aired,
780
00:37:03,016 --> 00:37:04,449
my father passed away.
781
00:37:04,518 --> 00:37:05,951
I'm sorry.
782
00:37:06,019 --> 00:37:09,455
And the weird thing about it was,
the friends that were there--
783
00:37:09,523 --> 00:37:12,686
a lot of them are Trek fans
and were around me at the time,
784
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,694
and we sat down
and watched that episode.
785
00:37:14,762 --> 00:37:16,627
The strangest thing
about it was,
786
00:37:16,697 --> 00:37:18,631
by the time it got to the end
787
00:37:18,699 --> 00:37:20,929
and the holographic message
and the whole thing,
788
00:37:21,001 --> 00:37:22,935
it actually helped me
a great deal,
789
00:37:23,003 --> 00:37:25,528
and here I get
to thank you personally,
790
00:37:25,606 --> 00:37:27,437
which I did appreciate it,
and I still do.
791
00:37:27,508 --> 00:37:28,941
John, I'm really touched.
792
00:37:29,009 --> 00:37:32,638
I think so many times
that people don't realize
793
00:37:32,713 --> 00:37:36,444
just how important
a show can be.
794
00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:40,453
It can destroy you, or it can--
as in a case like this--
795
00:37:40,521 --> 00:37:43,217
give you
a tremendous amount of comfort.
796
00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:46,726
Oh, yes, between the ending
and the holographic imaging
797
00:37:46,794 --> 00:37:48,455
and the cloud
and everything,
798
00:37:48,529 --> 00:37:50,827
it was just exactly
what I needed at the time.
799
00:37:50,898 --> 00:37:53,458
John, I don't know how to say
thank you for that tonight--
800
00:37:53,534 --> 00:37:54,967
for sharing that with us.
801
00:37:55,035 --> 00:37:56,468
I thank you for Talk Trek.
802
00:37:56,537 --> 00:37:59,165
You're welcome. Thank you
for being with us, my friend.
803
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,104
There's nothing like
a bunch of Trek people
804
00:38:01,175 --> 00:38:02,608
getting together someplace
805
00:38:02,676 --> 00:38:04,109
and just sitting and talking.
806
00:38:04,178 --> 00:38:06,112
They'll go for 24 hours
or more, and--
807
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:09,115
And that's why it's called Talk Trek
rather than Trek Talk--
808
00:38:09,183 --> 00:38:12,414
because it's not just a matter
of talking about Trek,
809
00:38:12,486 --> 00:38:14,579
but rather it's a whole
universe within itself.
810
00:38:14,655 --> 00:38:16,919
Just like people talk
French and talk German,
811
00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:18,582
we talk Trek.
812
00:38:20,227 --> 00:38:22,855
Crosby: So what does your bathtub
look like at the end of the day?
813
00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:26,593
It looks very green.
Ha ha! Trust me on that.
814
00:38:26,667 --> 00:38:28,100
Who is your favorite captain?
815
00:38:28,168 --> 00:38:29,567
Have to be Captain Kirk.
816
00:38:29,636 --> 00:38:30,660
Captain Picard.
817
00:38:30,737 --> 00:38:32,034
I'm kind of a Kirk fan.
818
00:38:32,105 --> 00:38:33,697
I like Kirk because
he was the first captain.
819
00:38:33,774 --> 00:38:35,105
The original,
the prototype
820
00:38:35,175 --> 00:38:37,075
for everything else
that came along afterwards.
821
00:38:37,144 --> 00:38:38,372
Absolutely Kirk.
822
00:38:38,445 --> 00:38:39,742
Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
823
00:38:39,813 --> 00:38:41,280
- Picard.
- Picard.
- Picard.
824
00:38:41,348 --> 00:38:42,781
Now, there's
a very handsome man.
825
00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:44,442
There's a very handsome
man-- Captain Picard.
826
00:38:44,518 --> 00:38:45,780
Who's your favorite captain?
827
00:38:45,853 --> 00:38:46,945
Data.
828
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:48,453
Well, Data's not a captain.
829
00:38:48,522 --> 00:38:49,955
No, I don't like
any captains.
830
00:38:50,023 --> 00:38:52,457
Who's going to beat
Captain Kirk?
831
00:38:52,526 --> 00:38:55,017
Come on! Come on!
He's a stud!
832
00:38:55,095 --> 00:38:56,084
I can only say Janeway.
833
00:38:56,163 --> 00:38:59,496
Janeway's a stud, too,
but-- Ha ha!
834
00:38:59,566 --> 00:39:00,658
- Janeway.
- Janeway.
835
00:39:00,734 --> 00:39:03,294
I'd probably say split
between Janeway and Kirk.
836
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:04,860
Kirk.
837
00:39:04,938 --> 00:39:07,031
I like Avery Brooks, too,
but that's because he's cute.
838
00:39:07,107 --> 00:39:09,041
Crosby: Who's your
favorite captain?
839
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:10,804
Ha ha ha! I am.
840
00:39:10,878 --> 00:39:12,812
I couldn't pick
one captain over another.
841
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,313
The emissary!
842
00:39:14,381 --> 00:39:15,814
The emissary
is different.
843
00:39:15,883 --> 00:39:17,817
You must remember
the emissary.
844
00:39:17,885 --> 00:39:19,318
He is most important,
845
00:39:19,386 --> 00:39:22,321
but to place the others
above the emissary
846
00:39:22,389 --> 00:39:24,254
would not be right.
847
00:39:25,692 --> 00:39:27,557
When I got the job,
everybody said,
848
00:39:27,628 --> 00:39:29,425
"Oh, the Trekkers,
the Trekkies."
849
00:39:29,496 --> 00:39:31,930
Well, in fact,
they're very smart.
850
00:39:31,999 --> 00:39:33,933
One has to be smart
851
00:39:34,001 --> 00:39:36,333
to connect science
with the imagination.
852
00:39:36,403 --> 00:39:38,837
That's what's
really interesting to me--
853
00:39:38,906 --> 00:39:43,434
that a show could have fans
that span and bridge
854
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:46,377
every sort of
classification.
855
00:39:46,446 --> 00:39:48,380
Stephen Hawking
and Mel Brooks
856
00:39:48,448 --> 00:39:50,780
and, you know,
Dr. Marvin Minsky--
857
00:39:50,851 --> 00:39:53,649
who's head of the robotics
department at M.I.T.--
858
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:55,187
or the Mercury astronauts.
859
00:39:55,255 --> 00:39:56,688
Accountants,
these are lawyers.
860
00:39:56,757 --> 00:39:58,725
These are people who just
really, really enjoy the program.
861
00:39:58,792 --> 00:40:01,727
There's this preconceived notion
that they are
862
00:40:01,795 --> 00:40:04,730
a peculiar bunch of people,
you know?
863
00:40:04,798 --> 00:40:07,460
I don't think I've ever
met anyone--
864
00:40:07,534 --> 00:40:09,729
Star Trek fan or not--
who wasn't peculiar.
865
00:40:09,803 --> 00:40:12,604
I mean, we're all peculiar,
aren't we?
866
00:40:12,737 --> 00:40:16,468
The word "fan" actually is
an abbreviated form of "fanatic,"
867
00:40:16,541 --> 00:40:19,476
and there are some people
who fit that category,
868
00:40:19,544 --> 00:40:24,481
who are the people
who really do need to get a life,
869
00:40:24,549 --> 00:40:28,485
but most fans are pretty normal people
who have a hobby,
870
00:40:28,553 --> 00:40:30,987
who have a sense
of the desire to escape,
871
00:40:31,055 --> 00:40:33,455
and they know it's a show,
872
00:40:33,524 --> 00:40:36,459
and nobody really gets lost
in it, but it's just fun.
873
00:40:36,527 --> 00:40:39,496
Woman: We are the largest ship
in the San Diego area.
874
00:40:39,564 --> 00:40:41,896
We do a lot
of community service.
875
00:40:41,966 --> 00:40:44,059
We go and visit
abused children in hospitals,
876
00:40:44,135 --> 00:40:46,330
and we work fairs,
and we're having
877
00:40:46,404 --> 00:40:48,668
a miniature golf tournament
in two weeks, and--
878
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,173
Dressed as Klingons?
879
00:40:50,241 --> 00:40:51,333
Yes.
880
00:40:51,409 --> 00:40:53,502
You play miniature golf
dressed as Klingons?
881
00:40:53,578 --> 00:40:56,638
Yes, yes. We're going to donate
the money to charity.
882
00:40:56,714 --> 00:40:59,148
My name is Marc Okrand,
and what I've done
883
00:40:59,217 --> 00:41:01,208
is develop the Klingon language
for Star Trek.
884
00:41:01,285 --> 00:41:02,718
Nuqneh!
885
00:41:02,787 --> 00:41:04,379
Our only greeting translates
quite literally
886
00:41:04,455 --> 00:41:05,888
to "What do you want?"
887
00:41:05,957 --> 00:41:07,788
When they played
Klingon softball,
888
00:41:07,859 --> 00:41:10,293
I never devised words
for "You're out," "You're safe,"
889
00:41:10,361 --> 00:41:12,454
something like that,
so they had to improvise,
890
00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:13,963
and the way they improvised is,
891
00:41:14,032 --> 00:41:16,193
"You're dead," You're alive,"
which works just as well.
892
00:41:16,267 --> 00:41:18,360
I like the way
Klingons believe--
893
00:41:18,436 --> 00:41:20,063
their code of ethics
and honor.
894
00:41:20,138 --> 00:41:24,598
What I've done is turn around
and tattooed the Klingon insignia.
895
00:41:24,676 --> 00:41:27,110
It took me about
2 1/2 hours of work
896
00:41:27,178 --> 00:41:29,840
with a homemade pen
to get it inked in.
897
00:41:29,914 --> 00:41:32,974
This is a Klingon
disrupter pistol.
898
00:41:33,051 --> 00:41:35,281
Two basic settings.
899
00:41:35,353 --> 00:41:38,288
This is the stun--
That's the stun setting.
900
00:41:38,356 --> 00:41:42,554
Never have I heard it
been used in Star Trek.
901
00:41:42,627 --> 00:41:44,561
Not only has Klingon been
spoken just in the movies,
902
00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,563
it turns out that people like
to speak the language.
903
00:41:46,631 --> 00:41:48,030
People like to learn
the language.
904
00:41:48,099 --> 00:41:50,033
Man: The Klingon language camp
is something
905
00:41:50,101 --> 00:41:53,400
that we've been having
for the last 4 years.
906
00:41:53,471 --> 00:41:56,406
It's a summer program
for people to learn
907
00:41:56,474 --> 00:41:58,237
the language and customs
of the culture.
908
00:41:58,309 --> 00:42:00,436
- Tlhingan hol.
- Tlhingan hol.
909
00:42:00,511 --> 00:42:02,445
Tlhingan hol dajatlh'a'?
910
00:42:02,513 --> 00:42:03,946
Tlhingan hol dajatlh'a'?
911
00:42:04,015 --> 00:42:05,073
Maj.
912
00:42:05,149 --> 00:42:06,582
How do you say
"kill"?
913
00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:07,948
- Hoh!
- Hoh!
914
00:42:08,019 --> 00:42:08,951
- Hoh!
- Hoh!
915
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:10,351
- Yihoh!
- Yihoh!
916
00:42:10,421 --> 00:42:11,445
- Jihoh!
- Jihoh!
917
00:42:11,522 --> 00:42:12,784
- Pehoh!
- Pehoh!
918
00:42:12,857 --> 00:42:13,949
- Jihoh!
- Jihoh!
919
00:42:14,025 --> 00:42:15,458
- Pehoh!
- Jihoh!
920
00:42:15,526 --> 00:42:17,994
- Mahoh!
- Mahoh!
921
00:42:18,062 --> 00:42:19,962
[Singing In Klingon]
922
00:42:32,543 --> 00:42:36,570
They just came out with the first
full edition in Klingon of Hamlet.
923
00:42:36,647 --> 00:42:38,239
They're working
on translating the Bible.
924
00:42:38,316 --> 00:42:40,409
There's a team of scholars
doing this,
925
00:42:40,485 --> 00:42:42,919
and they've translated
the theme song to Sesame Street,
926
00:42:42,987 --> 00:42:44,477
the theme song
to Gilligan's lsland.
927
00:42:44,555 --> 00:42:45,988
Klingons are really popular.
928
00:42:46,057 --> 00:42:48,491
Klingons are
very popular. Ha ha!
929
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:50,322
It's an interesting
phenomenon. I mean--
930
00:42:50,394 --> 00:42:52,624
You said that with
a straight face.
931
00:42:52,697 --> 00:42:55,131
Klingons are popular
because they're fun.
932
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,633
Klingons allow us
as non-Klingons
933
00:42:57,702 --> 00:42:59,932
to express a certain aspect
of our personality,
934
00:43:00,004 --> 00:43:03,167
I think, that we're not
allowed to do in public.
935
00:43:10,114 --> 00:43:12,048
Woman: I want to get
936
00:43:12,116 --> 00:43:14,448
the, uh, sour cream
and chives potato.
937
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,454
Would you like cheese
on the Super Star or without?
938
00:43:17,522 --> 00:43:18,955
Without cheese?
This combo?
939
00:43:19,023 --> 00:43:21,958
OK, would you like that
supersized for 39 cents more?
940
00:43:22,026 --> 00:43:24,551
It's got a large fries
and large drink.
941
00:43:24,629 --> 00:43:26,062
$9.56.
942
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:27,825
16! Pick up, please!
16!
943
00:43:27,899 --> 00:43:29,833
Have you ever served
a Klingon before?
944
00:43:29,901 --> 00:43:31,129
Yes.
945
00:43:31,202 --> 00:43:32,533
- You've served Klingons before?
- Yes.
946
00:43:40,878 --> 00:43:44,473
When I was 6 years old--
January of 1989--
947
00:43:44,549 --> 00:43:47,985
I attended
my first convention,
948
00:43:48,052 --> 00:43:51,249
and here is a picture
from it.
949
00:43:51,322 --> 00:43:54,985
Man: One day I was at home,
and I get a phone call,
950
00:43:55,059 --> 00:43:57,357
and Gabriel at the time
was 6 years old,
951
00:43:57,428 --> 00:44:00,864
and the school calls me up
and says, "Would you please
come and pick up your son?"
952
00:44:00,932 --> 00:44:03,093
I said, "Well, what's the matter?
Is he hurt or what?"
953
00:44:03,167 --> 00:44:05,431
They said,
"No. He happens to be wearing
954
00:44:05,503 --> 00:44:07,596
his Star Trek uniform
955
00:44:07,672 --> 00:44:09,765
and his pointed Spock
ears and full makeup,
956
00:44:09,841 --> 00:44:11,433
and I don't think this is
957
00:44:11,509 --> 00:44:13,943
the right attire for him
to wear at school."
958
00:44:14,011 --> 00:44:16,275
It's a Catholic--
It was a Catholic school, too.
959
00:44:16,347 --> 00:44:19,510
They made me come and pick him up,
which I thought was pretty funny
960
00:44:19,584 --> 00:44:21,677
and it took him years
before he really could comprehend
961
00:44:21,752 --> 00:44:23,617
that he wasn't supposed
to go to school like that,
962
00:44:23,688 --> 00:44:26,122
but that's the way life is
when you're 6 years old.
963
00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:28,954
Yeah, I was supposed to be wearing
my plaid pants and tie.
964
00:44:29,026 --> 00:44:30,459
- Another interesting thing that--
- [Telephone Rings]
965
00:44:30,528 --> 00:44:33,463
Oh, for God's sakes!
I'll get that. I'll get that.
966
00:44:33,531 --> 00:44:34,964
Hello.
967
00:44:35,032 --> 00:44:38,468
Peter, this is the worst time
you could have called!
968
00:44:38,536 --> 00:44:39,969
Go away! OK, bye.
969
00:44:40,037 --> 00:44:42,505
Ha ha ha!
970
00:44:42,573 --> 00:44:46,475
Around this entire section here,
971
00:44:46,544 --> 00:44:48,478
we have my collection
972
00:44:48,546 --> 00:44:51,106
of autographed Star Trek
action figures,
973
00:44:51,182 --> 00:44:54,117
and over here
I have the collection
974
00:44:54,185 --> 00:44:55,618
of the 4 captains.
975
00:44:55,686 --> 00:44:58,484
This Sisko here
might look a bit messy
976
00:44:58,556 --> 00:45:01,389
because I shaved it
with an X-Acto knife
977
00:45:01,459 --> 00:45:03,723
because of his new look
this season
978
00:45:03,794 --> 00:45:05,921
and painted on a goatee
with model paint.
979
00:45:05,997 --> 00:45:09,433
Over here I put up
somewhat of a chart
980
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:11,764
with my Datas
illustrating the evolution
981
00:45:11,836 --> 00:45:14,304
of the uniforms
in the past few years.
982
00:45:14,372 --> 00:45:16,806
We start out here with Data
983
00:45:16,874 --> 00:45:18,933
in the first/second season
lycra jumpsuit,
984
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:22,446
which I heard caused
the male actors back problems;
985
00:45:22,513 --> 00:45:24,947
then the third
through seventh season
986
00:45:25,016 --> 00:45:27,450
two-piece uniform,
987
00:45:27,518 --> 00:45:30,954
and then the Generations
jumpsuit version
988
00:45:31,022 --> 00:45:35,118
and now the gray-shouldered
First Contact garbs,
989
00:45:35,192 --> 00:45:38,286
which of course
I am wearing now.
990
00:45:38,362 --> 00:45:40,023
Man: I normally
dress up as Data.
991
00:45:40,097 --> 00:45:42,861
One lady thought that I was Data
and came up to me,
992
00:45:42,934 --> 00:45:45,368
and she had her baby,
and she kept--she was like,
993
00:45:45,436 --> 00:45:47,131
"Will you--Will you
touch my baby?"
994
00:45:47,204 --> 00:45:49,638
I've been asked
to bless people...
995
00:45:49,707 --> 00:45:53,199
One wanted me to sign
the interior of his car--
996
00:45:53,277 --> 00:45:54,676
To marry people...
997
00:45:54,745 --> 00:45:57,509
"Oh, wow! He touched my baby!
He touched my baby!"
998
00:45:57,581 --> 00:45:59,549
Then she runs off
screaming in the halls.
999
00:45:59,617 --> 00:46:02,984
One wanted me to help him
ease his way into death.
1000
00:46:03,054 --> 00:46:04,544
It was an odd request.
1001
00:46:04,622 --> 00:46:08,080
Maybe we should have told her
I wasn't Data. Ha ha!
1002
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:12,255
& It's a beautiful day &
1003
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:16,096
& Ooh, we'll fly away &
1004
00:46:16,167 --> 00:46:18,067
& It's a beautiful day... &
1005
00:46:18,135 --> 00:46:20,865
The Mark and Brian
radio program-- 95.5 KLOS.
1006
00:46:20,938 --> 00:46:24,374
All right, now, there is a Star Trek
convention in town this weekend.
1007
00:46:24,442 --> 00:46:26,103
A lot of Trekkies are here.
1008
00:46:26,177 --> 00:46:28,111
They're coming from
all over the world.
1009
00:46:28,179 --> 00:46:30,579
In celebration
of that group of people in town,
1010
00:46:30,648 --> 00:46:33,048
we-- Mark and Brian-- now give you
the Star Trek theme.
1011
00:46:33,117 --> 00:46:35,449
[Playing Star Trek Theme Badly]
1012
00:46:41,926 --> 00:46:43,450
[Shrieking Star Trek Theme]
1013
00:46:52,269 --> 00:46:54,703
There we go.
I'm a little busy now.
1014
00:46:54,772 --> 00:46:57,070
All right, we'll take
a commercial break and return.
1015
00:46:57,141 --> 00:46:59,075
Crosby: Do you have
a favorite episode?
1016
00:46:59,143 --> 00:47:00,508
The original?
1017
00:47:00,578 --> 00:47:02,011
Well, of course,
the original--
1018
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:03,512
The original? OK.
1019
00:47:03,581 --> 00:47:06,015
Oh, look here, mister.
See, he shouldn't even be in this.
1020
00:47:06,083 --> 00:47:07,516
He doesn't even dig Star Trek.
1021
00:47:07,585 --> 00:47:09,519
I like Star Trek!
I like it fine!
1022
00:47:09,587 --> 00:47:12,522
No! You're like, "Who are those guys
with the pointy ears?"
1023
00:47:12,590 --> 00:47:14,922
Star Trek's
a way of life, man.
1024
00:47:14,992 --> 00:47:18,428
It's a good way of life.
It teaches us all.
1025
00:47:18,496 --> 00:47:21,522
This background here
that you see was rendered by me.
1026
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,000
It is the Nemesis station
from Star Station Nemesis,
1027
00:47:25,069 --> 00:47:29,529
the film project that our club
is working on at the moment.
1028
00:47:29,607 --> 00:47:32,872
This is the screenplay
in its computer form.
1029
00:47:32,943 --> 00:47:34,740
This program is
where it was written
1030
00:47:34,812 --> 00:47:37,372
and where all the modifications
were made.
1031
00:47:37,448 --> 00:47:39,882
This script is basically
the back story
1032
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:42,919
that they've conceived
for the club.
1033
00:47:42,987 --> 00:47:45,251
Then I translated
the outline we wrote
1034
00:47:45,322 --> 00:47:49,053
into the 172-page
screenplay.
1035
00:47:49,126 --> 00:47:51,560
What you're about to see here
1036
00:47:51,629 --> 00:47:55,200
are some of the fledgling
opticals I've created.
1037
00:47:55,333 --> 00:47:58,632
As you can see, there's
a considerable amount of detail
1038
00:47:58,703 --> 00:48:00,102
that went into it.
1039
00:48:00,171 --> 00:48:02,105
This is pan-up shot
that I did,
1040
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:03,606
and as you can see,
1041
00:48:03,675 --> 00:48:05,267
there's a little flickering
around there
1042
00:48:05,343 --> 00:48:07,436
that I'm trying
to get rid of.
1043
00:48:07,512 --> 00:48:10,174
One thing that I've been
tinkering around with
1044
00:48:10,248 --> 00:48:11,681
is a Romulan armada shot.
1045
00:48:11,749 --> 00:48:14,013
I rendered this sequence
in two parts.
1046
00:48:14,085 --> 00:48:16,349
This is the logo
for the trailer
1047
00:48:16,421 --> 00:48:18,912
for the movie
that we're putting together
1048
00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:23,154
to show at not this coming
meeting, but the next one.
1049
00:48:23,228 --> 00:48:25,662
Woman: Gabriel and Travis,
our communications officer,
1050
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:28,756
came up with the idea
to start making a movie for our club.
1051
00:48:28,833 --> 00:48:32,963
Gabriel designed some new uniforms
specifically for the movie.
1052
00:48:33,037 --> 00:48:35,437
[People Talking]
1053
00:48:35,506 --> 00:48:36,939
There's yours. Now...
1054
00:48:37,008 --> 00:48:38,441
[Applause]
1055
00:48:42,013 --> 00:48:44,345
They're still--
still in process.
1056
00:48:44,415 --> 00:48:46,542
Now you have to decide
1057
00:48:46,618 --> 00:48:48,745
which one you're going
to wear tomorrow.
1058
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:51,050
Yeah. It will be
a tough choice.
1059
00:48:51,122 --> 00:48:52,555
Ha ha! Wow.
1060
00:48:52,624 --> 00:48:55,058
This costume is the uniform
that I've designed.
1061
00:48:55,126 --> 00:48:57,560
It came out of about
50 conceptual sketches,
1062
00:48:57,629 --> 00:48:59,995
and this is
my favorite of them
1063
00:49:00,064 --> 00:49:02,498
from the film project
that I'm working on,
1064
00:49:02,567 --> 00:49:06,901
and it should be noted that this is
only a prototypical version,
1065
00:49:06,971 --> 00:49:08,905
and, uh...
1066
00:49:08,973 --> 00:49:12,409
The collar on the completed
version will be--
1067
00:49:12,477 --> 00:49:14,411
come to about here,
but it's--
1068
00:49:14,479 --> 00:49:17,915
She kind of cut short
the collar a bit,
1069
00:49:17,982 --> 00:49:19,916
and it will have
shoulder pads,
1070
00:49:19,984 --> 00:49:21,918
and it will be all wool.
1071
00:49:21,986 --> 00:49:24,420
This has some wool components
and some polyester components,
1072
00:49:24,489 --> 00:49:26,855
and overall I think
the first version looks nice.
1073
00:49:26,924 --> 00:49:29,358
I've got a friend of mine
that does custom tailoring,
1074
00:49:29,427 --> 00:49:31,395
so he does
all my uniforms for me.
1075
00:49:31,462 --> 00:49:32,895
I have a dress uniform.
1076
00:49:32,964 --> 00:49:35,899
I've got just, like,
a couple of the regular T-shirt tops
1077
00:49:35,967 --> 00:49:38,663
and things like that,
and this is one of the jumpsuits.
1078
00:49:38,736 --> 00:49:40,328
This is normal attire for me.
1079
00:49:40,405 --> 00:49:43,670
We don't feel like we look
any different than anyone else anymore,
1080
00:49:43,741 --> 00:49:45,936
because we've been
doing it for so long.
1081
00:49:46,010 --> 00:49:49,946
In fact, sometimes after work I'll
be leaving and I'll have my uniform on.
1082
00:49:50,014 --> 00:49:52,039
People will be staring
at me, and I'm like,
1083
00:49:52,116 --> 00:49:55,279
"What are they staring at me for?"
To me, it's just natural.
1084
00:49:55,353 --> 00:49:59,289
Man: I go out a lot of times
in the uniform,
1085
00:49:59,357 --> 00:50:01,291
and I find it
a pretty positive thing.
1086
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:04,055
Sometimes I'll get people that--
they'll give me a smile,
1087
00:50:04,128 --> 00:50:07,256
they'll say something or give me
a Star Trek Vulcan salute.
1088
00:50:07,332 --> 00:50:10,790
I've never had a negative
experience, and I enjoy it.
1089
00:50:10,868 --> 00:50:13,803
On a couple of occasions,
I've had people ask me
1090
00:50:13,871 --> 00:50:16,465
something about, "Well, how long
are you going to do this?"
1091
00:50:16,541 --> 00:50:19,339
Or "Why do you do all this?
Don't you have a life for real?"
1092
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:21,571
And this is part
of my life for real.
1093
00:50:21,646 --> 00:50:22,806
Hi, Steve.
1094
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,142
How you doing?
1095
00:50:24,215 --> 00:50:25,614
All right.
How are you today?
1096
00:50:25,683 --> 00:50:26,809
- All right.
- Good.
1097
00:50:26,884 --> 00:50:29,785
As long as I'm able to do it,
I'm going to do it.
1098
00:50:29,854 --> 00:50:32,982
Doesn't hurt anybody,
makes a lot of people feel good,
1099
00:50:33,057 --> 00:50:36,151
and I think that's
sort of the point of things.
1100
00:50:36,294 --> 00:50:38,990
Gabriel: I'm going inside now
to some of my favorite stores
1101
00:50:39,063 --> 00:50:41,156
to search for new
Star Trek memorabilia,
1102
00:50:41,232 --> 00:50:43,325
hard-to-get action figures,
and the like.
1103
00:50:43,401 --> 00:50:47,337
You know, I spend around
maybe 300-400 bucks a year
1104
00:50:47,405 --> 00:50:50,670
on Star Trek merchandise,
but if I could, I'd spend
1105
00:50:50,742 --> 00:50:52,903
a lot more--
about--way over 1,000.
1106
00:50:52,977 --> 00:50:54,911
The reality is Star Trek fans
1107
00:50:54,979 --> 00:50:56,913
devote more time,
energy, and finance
1108
00:50:56,981 --> 00:50:58,676
to their object of affection
1109
00:50:58,750 --> 00:51:01,583
than any other group
of people in the world.
1110
00:51:01,652 --> 00:51:03,085
I am a die-hard
Star Trek fan,
1111
00:51:03,154 --> 00:51:05,088
and I'm going
all over the country
1112
00:51:05,156 --> 00:51:07,090
trying to get
everything I can,
1113
00:51:07,158 --> 00:51:08,921
before I die, of Star Trek.
1114
00:51:08,993 --> 00:51:10,927
This is the Data
"Redemption"--
1115
00:51:10,995 --> 00:51:12,485
the red Playmates doll--
1116
00:51:12,563 --> 00:51:14,963
the one that's very rare
and valuable,
1117
00:51:15,032 --> 00:51:17,967
and I got it for $25
at a convention,
1118
00:51:18,035 --> 00:51:20,265
and now they're going
for $250, $300, which--
1119
00:51:20,338 --> 00:51:23,307
Not that I'll ever sell mine.
It's not for sale!
1120
00:51:23,374 --> 00:51:25,808
These dolls and things
all have numbers on their feet,
1121
00:51:25,877 --> 00:51:27,504
and they look for
the lowest number.
1122
00:51:27,578 --> 00:51:31,014
I'm about to do a valuable trade
for these two figures
1123
00:51:31,082 --> 00:51:32,481
from the Huntsville, Alabama,
convention
1124
00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:34,984
that go for
about 100 bucks apiece
1125
00:51:35,052 --> 00:51:37,987
because they were limited
to only 10,000
1126
00:51:38,055 --> 00:51:40,990
for the equally rare
Thomas Riker figure
1127
00:51:41,058 --> 00:51:43,993
because I'm getting
the better end of the deal
1128
00:51:44,061 --> 00:51:46,495
because the production number
was a bit lower
1129
00:51:46,564 --> 00:51:48,498
and goes
for considerably more
1130
00:51:48,566 --> 00:51:51,399
on the secondary market
than this set.
1131
00:51:51,469 --> 00:51:53,403
There you go.
These are from Huntsville.
1132
00:51:53,471 --> 00:51:55,905
Huntsville-- That's the only place
you can get these, huh?
1133
00:51:55,973 --> 00:51:58,908
And some were numbered over 10,000,
but that was a mistake.
1134
00:51:58,976 --> 00:52:01,342
They used parts
from another figure.
1135
00:52:01,412 --> 00:52:02,845
Ah! Interesting.
Thank you.
1136
00:52:02,914 --> 00:52:05,439
Those were actually the legs
from "The Cage" Spocks.
1137
00:52:05,516 --> 00:52:07,950
How do you know all that?
1138
00:52:08,019 --> 00:52:09,611
I'm on the internet.
1139
00:52:09,687 --> 00:52:13,316
Ha ha!
I'm keeping those for myself.
1140
00:52:13,391 --> 00:52:15,882
Man: My folks used to get really mad
because I'd just talk about it
1141
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,428
and talk about it
and talk about it all the time,
1142
00:52:18,496 --> 00:52:20,430
Ioving all the wonderful
Star Trek stuff,
1143
00:52:20,498 --> 00:52:22,432
and here am I now, 27 years old,
1144
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,401
and I still collect all these things,
and I love it just as much.
1145
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:26,903
The super phaser
target game--
1146
00:52:26,971 --> 00:52:29,269
This was pretty hip
for the early seventies.
1147
00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:32,332
Star Trek: The Motion Picture--
the pop-up book.
1148
00:52:32,410 --> 00:52:34,275
These were the hottest thing
when I was a kid.
1149
00:52:34,345 --> 00:52:35,903
Taco Bell was running
this special,
1150
00:52:35,980 --> 00:52:40,144
and these are Star Trek
1984 drinking glasses,
1151
00:52:40,218 --> 00:52:43,153
and in 1989, they came out
with Star Trek V,
1152
00:52:43,221 --> 00:52:46,486
and they had this special offer
where you could send
1153
00:52:46,557 --> 00:52:48,024
for your futuristic
marshmallow dispenser.
1154
00:52:48,092 --> 00:52:50,822
So I went ahead,
and I sent for this thing,
1155
00:52:50,895 --> 00:52:52,692
and here we go.
It's still intact.
1156
00:52:52,763 --> 00:52:54,196
It's, like, mint in a bag.
1157
00:52:54,265 --> 00:52:57,359
All this stuff has, like,
overtaken my house in such a big way.
1158
00:52:57,435 --> 00:53:00,871
One of my goals is to actually build,
like, a great big shelf
1159
00:53:00,938 --> 00:53:03,907
where I could actually
display it.
1160
00:53:03,975 --> 00:53:06,341
That would be
kind of neat.
1161
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:09,504
Woman: When we first started
doing the Star Trek cruises,
1162
00:53:09,580 --> 00:53:13,676
the fans came because they wanted
to have quality time with the stars.
1163
00:53:13,751 --> 00:53:17,243
Each fan has their picture taken
with all of the stars
1164
00:53:17,321 --> 00:53:20,484
and Star Trek guest celebrities
around them.
1165
00:53:20,558 --> 00:53:23,618
- Crosby: Tell me about the passport.
- It looks like a U.S. passport,
1166
00:53:23,694 --> 00:53:26,026
but obviously it says
United Federation of Planets,
1167
00:53:26,097 --> 00:53:27,792
and we filled it out.
1168
00:53:27,865 --> 00:53:31,096
It's sort of a thing you pick up
at the conventions.
1169
00:53:31,168 --> 00:53:38,131
I went to Honduras and Belize,
and they just stamped me in.
1170
00:53:38,209 --> 00:53:40,404
In fact, I even have one...
1171
00:53:40,478 --> 00:53:42,503
scary--
1172
00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:44,639
U.S. Immigration.
1173
00:53:44,715 --> 00:53:47,309
February 7, 1994,
they stamped me in.
1174
00:53:47,385 --> 00:53:50,582
Man: Coming is Jimmy Doohan's--
Scotty's director's chair.
1175
00:53:50,655 --> 00:53:53,385
My wife is flying in
with that today, and--
1176
00:53:53,457 --> 00:53:55,550
And that will be for sale?
1177
00:53:55,626 --> 00:53:59,460
Y es. That's for sale.
Here's the sign. We have the sign,
but we don't have the chair.
1178
00:53:59,530 --> 00:54:01,828
- And that's worth what?
- $375.
- Wow.
1179
00:54:01,899 --> 00:54:03,025
I don't know
if it's worth that.
1180
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,193
We put a price on it.
We hope it's worth that.
1181
00:54:05,269 --> 00:54:07,863
I don't know. It's hard to put a price
on something like that, though, really.
1182
00:54:07,939 --> 00:54:09,839
It's probably worth
a million dollars.
1183
00:54:09,907 --> 00:54:12,705
Whatever you collect, you can
usually find it at conventions.
1184
00:54:12,777 --> 00:54:16,338
At a typical convention, you'll find
a plethora of dealer tables
1185
00:54:16,414 --> 00:54:18,382
selling a variety
of Star Trek merchandise.
1186
00:54:18,449 --> 00:54:21,179
Over here we have some
gorgeous cardboard stand-ups.
1187
00:54:21,252 --> 00:54:23,482
I really must pick up
one of these.
1188
00:54:23,554 --> 00:54:26,455
A nice collection
of the various novels.
1189
00:54:26,524 --> 00:54:29,288
And there is a set of the figures
right there I just traded.
1190
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,419
Star Trek ship diagrams
and blueprints,
1191
00:54:31,495 --> 00:54:32,928
Star Trek- related
bookmarks,
1192
00:54:32,997 --> 00:54:34,328
Star Trek- related jewelry,
1193
00:54:34,398 --> 00:54:35,990
and Star Trek
uniform adornments,
1194
00:54:36,067 --> 00:54:37,125
Star Trek software,
1195
00:54:37,201 --> 00:54:40,364
plates, CDs, lithographs,
calendars, phasers,
1196
00:54:40,438 --> 00:54:42,531
a good deal of the model kits.
1197
00:54:42,607 --> 00:54:44,939
I always love buying
and building the model kits.
1198
00:54:45,009 --> 00:54:47,534
I've just been putting
the finishing touches
1199
00:54:47,612 --> 00:54:48,943
on Voyager here.
1200
00:54:49,013 --> 00:54:51,447
Of course, the Nacelles fold,
1201
00:54:51,515 --> 00:54:54,382
as you see on the series.
1202
00:54:54,452 --> 00:54:58,388
One little problem here
is this is coming apart there.
1203
00:54:58,456 --> 00:55:02,119
I don't think the Voyager is supposed
to have saucer sep capability.
1204
00:55:02,193 --> 00:55:05,060
I became a dealer because
when I was younger,
1205
00:55:05,129 --> 00:55:07,654
I read a few too many
Conan books,
1206
00:55:07,732 --> 00:55:09,825
and I started to get interested
in swords and armor
1207
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:11,458
and learned how to make armor
1208
00:55:11,535 --> 00:55:13,127
and got interested
in weaponries.
1209
00:55:13,204 --> 00:55:18,665
And then we went to gun shows, and we
used to carry the armor on the table.
1210
00:55:18,743 --> 00:55:24,181
Then in about 1991, they came out with
the 25th anniversary Star Trek cards,
1211
00:55:24,248 --> 00:55:28,844
and I got all excited and went down
and bought a few too many boxes
1212
00:55:28,919 --> 00:55:30,853
and broke them all for sets,
1213
00:55:30,921 --> 00:55:33,856
and I got my sets, and then
I had all these sets left over.
1214
00:55:33,924 --> 00:55:37,860
So we took them to the gun show,
and I put them next to the armor,
1215
00:55:37,928 --> 00:55:39,862
and then all of them
disappeared.
1216
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:42,865
And then they started asking me
for one of these and one of those.
1217
00:55:42,933 --> 00:55:47,370
And the armor started moving farther
and farther off the edge of the table,
1218
00:55:47,438 --> 00:55:49,872
and now it's on the floor,
1219
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:52,209
and these and those have
taken over everything.
1220
00:55:52,342 --> 00:55:55,072
I'm working now with a company
that is doing cookie jars.
1221
00:55:55,145 --> 00:55:58,808
They're 30th anniversary
Star Trek cookie jars.
1222
00:55:58,882 --> 00:56:01,043
I've collected 759 autographs
in about 5 years--
1223
00:56:01,117 --> 00:56:02,607
of the Star Trek characters.
1224
00:56:02,686 --> 00:56:04,517
This is going to be
kind of like Christmas,
1225
00:56:04,588 --> 00:56:07,386
ripping open
all these packages and stuff.
1226
00:56:07,457 --> 00:56:09,322
She just got me
hooked on the cards.
1227
00:56:09,392 --> 00:56:10,825
I've just become addicted.
1228
00:56:10,894 --> 00:56:13,328
I told you, all you have to do
is buy one pack.
1229
00:56:13,396 --> 00:56:15,261
You just buy one pack,
and you're automatically addicted.
1230
00:56:15,398 --> 00:56:18,424
I've been in printing
now for 11 years.
1231
00:56:18,501 --> 00:56:20,969
I work in the bindery department.
1232
00:56:21,037 --> 00:56:22,834
Woman: A lot of people
do think she's strange,
1233
00:56:22,906 --> 00:56:24,703
and they'll say, "What kind
of person is she really?"
1234
00:56:24,774 --> 00:56:28,835
And honestly, she's very
well-educated and intelligent.
1235
00:56:28,912 --> 00:56:31,847
She takes her job responsibilities
very seriously.
1236
00:56:31,915 --> 00:56:33,348
She's a good worker.
1237
00:56:33,416 --> 00:56:37,352
But I think a lot of people think
she's not very intelligent,
1238
00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:38,546
whereas, really, she is.
1239
00:56:38,622 --> 00:56:42,353
Man: Bobby is
a little bit eccentric,
1240
00:56:42,425 --> 00:56:45,622
but it's a good quality
kind of eccentricity.
1241
00:56:45,695 --> 00:56:48,789
The customers do think it's
a little bit strange sometimes,
but they get a kick out of it.
1242
00:56:48,865 --> 00:56:50,355
Everyone's got their quirks,
1243
00:56:50,433 --> 00:56:55,029
and we just
work around and with those.
1244
00:56:57,407 --> 00:56:59,875
When I first came
into the shop,
1245
00:56:59,943 --> 00:57:02,878
I was going around meeting everyone
and getting names,
1246
00:57:02,946 --> 00:57:06,905
and I got to Bobby, and they said,
"This is the commander."
1247
00:57:06,983 --> 00:57:12,421
Commander, do we have enough
of that 80-pound rich gloss
for Tippen's calendar?
1248
00:57:12,489 --> 00:57:13,751
Going to be about 35. OK.
1249
00:57:13,823 --> 00:57:14,755
Y eah.
1250
00:57:14,824 --> 00:57:15,756
Thank you.
1251
00:57:15,825 --> 00:57:16,757
Man: Commander.
1252
00:57:16,826 --> 00:57:19,317
Y es? Which job is that?
1253
00:57:19,396 --> 00:57:22,160
Woman: When she first came to work here
and I called her "girlfriend,"
1254
00:57:22,232 --> 00:57:24,325
she made some comment that
she didn't really like that,
1255
00:57:24,401 --> 00:57:26,562
and I said, "What would you
prefer I call you?"
1256
00:57:26,636 --> 00:57:30,072
I said, "My rank is commander.
I'm a lieutenant commander."
1257
00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:32,506
She said, "Oh! Commander.
That's what I'll call you."
1258
00:57:32,575 --> 00:57:34,338
When I asked her why,
1259
00:57:34,411 --> 00:57:38,347
she started telling me all about this
Star Trek that she was into big time,
1260
00:57:38,415 --> 00:57:41,179
and she was commander
of some spaceship here locally.
1261
00:57:41,251 --> 00:57:44,345
Crosby: Did she explain what
these things were that she was wearing?
1262
00:57:44,421 --> 00:57:45,581
Woman: Y es,
but don't ask me what they are.
1263
00:57:45,655 --> 00:57:48,590
One's a phaser,
and it beams her up,
1264
00:57:48,658 --> 00:57:51,684
and the other's
something else.
1265
00:57:51,761 --> 00:57:53,626
I've never gotten any negative
response from it,
1266
00:57:53,697 --> 00:57:57,531
and some of our customers, especially
since the trial, I think recognize me,
1267
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,363
but they don't usually
say anything.
1268
00:57:59,436 --> 00:58:03,031
Has it encouraged you
to watch Star Trek some more?
1269
00:58:03,106 --> 00:58:05,370
Actually, yes.
I seldom ever watch Star Trek.
1270
00:58:05,442 --> 00:58:07,706
Only because you want
to understand what I'm talking about.
1271
00:58:07,777 --> 00:58:09,438
Yeah. Some of it.
1272
00:58:09,512 --> 00:58:12,447
And I'm really not a Star Trek fan,
but I get into it
1273
00:58:12,515 --> 00:58:14,176
because she's into it.
1274
00:58:14,351 --> 00:58:17,184
In my favorite fan letter,
I received--
1275
00:58:17,253 --> 00:58:21,189
I opened it up, and there was
a marijuana cigarette
1276
00:58:21,257 --> 00:58:23,691
glued to a piece of cardboard
1277
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,823
and a photo of a very
delightful-looking young girl.
1278
00:58:28,898 --> 00:58:34,837
And she said, "You have
turned me on so many times,
1279
00:58:34,904 --> 00:58:38,340
I thought I would return
the favor."
1280
00:58:41,411 --> 00:58:43,504
I kept that one.
1281
00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:48,108
I've saved some pretty great stuff
the fans have sent me.
1282
00:58:48,184 --> 00:58:49,151
These are ink drawings--
1283
00:58:49,219 --> 00:58:51,016
Chekov, Captain Picard,
1284
00:58:51,087 --> 00:58:53,055
Saavik, Dr. Crusher.
1285
00:58:53,123 --> 00:58:55,216
A woman named Jean Kluge,
1286
00:58:55,291 --> 00:58:58,852
she drew me in a kind of
Davy Crockett motif.
1287
00:58:58,928 --> 00:59:02,386
This is from Blowing Rock,
North Carolina.
1288
00:59:02,465 --> 00:59:04,660
Tasha and Sela together again.
1289
00:59:04,734 --> 00:59:06,292
This is a kind of
1290
00:59:06,369 --> 00:59:09,031
King Arthur- Knights
of the Round Table motif.
1291
00:59:09,105 --> 00:59:11,369
Sela, looking tough.
1292
00:59:11,441 --> 00:59:14,103
A lot of times,
kids send me things.
1293
00:59:14,177 --> 00:59:16,737
Nice lucite box
they sent it to me in.
1294
00:59:16,813 --> 00:59:20,249
This is Tasha
done in needlepoint.
1295
00:59:20,316 --> 00:59:22,250
It is, I think, my favorite.
1296
00:59:22,318 --> 00:59:26,414
This is a very imaginative pose.
1297
00:59:26,489 --> 00:59:28,389
At first, I've got to tell you,
I was actually shocked,
1298
00:59:28,458 --> 00:59:33,157
and then I kind of really
have grown to appreciate it.
1299
00:59:33,229 --> 00:59:36,630
Spiner: What was weird to me
when I saw the first one
1300
00:59:36,699 --> 00:59:40,260
was not just how they got
my naked body perfect--
1301
00:59:40,336 --> 00:59:42,327
I mean, it was just
a perfect rendition--
1302
00:59:42,405 --> 00:59:44,339
but yours was almost specific.
I mean, it--
1303
00:59:44,407 --> 00:59:45,669
[Crosby Giggling]
1304
00:59:45,742 --> 00:59:47,403
Are you filming?
1305
00:59:47,477 --> 00:59:51,413
Star Trek is unique in that
we are the only television show
1306
00:59:51,481 --> 00:59:53,847
that has an open-script
submission policy.
1307
00:59:53,917 --> 00:59:56,545
We will take scripts
from anyone in the world.
1308
00:59:56,619 --> 01:00:00,851
I once had a fan come in dressed
in a Starfleet uniform,
1309
01:00:00,924 --> 01:00:03,358
who was calling himself
Ensign Jones,
1310
01:00:03,426 --> 01:00:06,793
and all of his stories,
of course, had to do with
1311
01:00:06,863 --> 01:00:09,627
Ensign Jones taking control
of the Enterprise,
1312
01:00:09,699 --> 01:00:12,293
or Ensign Jones goes
to the Klingon home world,
1313
01:00:12,368 --> 01:00:14,131
or, you know, stuff like that--
1314
01:00:14,204 --> 01:00:15,933
Ensign Jones
travels through time.
1315
01:00:16,072 --> 01:00:19,303
I write in the original
Trek genre,
1316
01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:22,708
involving the characters
of Kirk and Spock.
1317
01:00:22,779 --> 01:00:25,077
I write slash
that appears on the internet.
1318
01:00:25,148 --> 01:00:27,241
You're talking
about the K/S zines.
1319
01:00:27,317 --> 01:00:29,410
The Kirk/Spock fetish groups.
1320
01:00:29,486 --> 01:00:34,321
The term means one character
with another, like Kirk "slash" Spock.
1321
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:37,826
We thought that either Gene or
the studio would put a stop to it,
1322
01:00:37,894 --> 01:00:39,987
but the studio never really
seemed to care
1323
01:00:40,063 --> 01:00:41,928
because we're talking
very small circulations.
1324
01:00:41,998 --> 01:00:44,489
We're all very normal ladies--
mostly housewives.
1325
01:00:44,567 --> 01:00:48,333
Who want to read sexual
stories about Kirk and Spock
1326
01:00:48,404 --> 01:00:49,996
but don't want to see them
with other women.
1327
01:00:50,073 --> 01:00:53,167
The mailing list I'm on
is completely anonymous.
1328
01:00:53,243 --> 01:00:57,145
Why is it important
that your identity not be revealed?
1329
01:00:57,213 --> 01:00:59,147
Because of the controversial nature.
1330
01:00:59,215 --> 01:01:02,651
We're living in a culture
that isn't as progressive,
1331
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:06,018
so it's important
to avoid censure.
1332
01:01:06,089 --> 01:01:09,320
I write The Secret Logs
of Mistress Janeway.
1333
01:01:09,392 --> 01:01:11,292
This is a story
about Mistress Janeway
1334
01:01:11,361 --> 01:01:13,295
and how she ties up Ensign Kim
1335
01:01:13,363 --> 01:01:15,729
and beats Tuvok
with a riding crop.
1336
01:01:15,798 --> 01:01:17,231
That was rather interesting.
1337
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:18,733
A fan made this.
1338
01:01:18,801 --> 01:01:22,862
He sculpted out of
an X-Men figure, repainted it--
1339
01:01:22,939 --> 01:01:26,739
complete with a whip,
cat-o'-nine-tails, handcuffs.
1340
01:01:26,809 --> 01:01:29,744
Man: Another fan wrote
a Klingon sex manual.
1341
01:01:29,812 --> 01:01:32,303
"There's no such thing
as safe sex in Klingon,
1342
01:01:32,382 --> 01:01:34,816
how to tell if your daughter
is seeing a Klingon,
1343
01:01:34,884 --> 01:01:37,011
meeting your Klingon,
initiating the mating ritual."
1344
01:01:37,086 --> 01:01:38,986
Worf and I went up,
and I pushed him,
1345
01:01:39,055 --> 01:01:40,989
he pushed me back.
We started wrestling.
1346
01:01:41,057 --> 01:01:43,491
And it's understood that
that is part of the Klingon culture.
1347
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,824
The female pushing a man
or slapping a man is considered like,
1348
01:01:45,895 --> 01:01:48,159
"Hey, I want to go out with you.
I find you attractive."
1349
01:01:48,231 --> 01:01:49,163
Uh!
1350
01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:57,838
I don't have it with me
anymore-- I threw it away--
1351
01:01:57,907 --> 01:02:00,341
but they had made from latex
a Klingon condom.
1352
01:02:00,410 --> 01:02:02,378
It was ridged.
It had like big ridges and stuff.
1353
01:02:02,445 --> 01:02:05,346
There are now thousands
of K/S zines out there.
1354
01:02:05,415 --> 01:02:07,474
It's way too late to stop it.
1355
01:02:07,617 --> 01:02:10,484
My name is Daryl Frazetti,
this is Bones,
1356
01:02:10,553 --> 01:02:13,613
and we've gone to about a dozen
Star Trek conventions together.
1357
01:02:13,690 --> 01:02:15,123
I do that with him
1358
01:02:15,191 --> 01:02:16,783
mainly because he enters
the costume contests,
1359
01:02:16,859 --> 01:02:19,350
and it's something fun
for both of us to do together.
1360
01:02:19,429 --> 01:02:22,364
We have a lot of fun doing it
with the people we meet.
1361
01:02:22,432 --> 01:02:26,368
He's got his little med kit
right here--his props.
1362
01:02:26,436 --> 01:02:29,371
this is the original
Trek scrub top,
1363
01:02:29,439 --> 01:02:31,873
and this is the science insignia
1364
01:02:31,941 --> 01:02:35,809
and his DeForest Kelley pin
that he always wears for luck.
1365
01:02:35,878 --> 01:02:38,813
We're probably bigger
classic Trek fans
1366
01:02:38,881 --> 01:02:40,644
than any of the other shows,
1367
01:02:40,717 --> 01:02:42,651
and DeForest Kelley happens
to be our favorite actor.
1368
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:44,653
He will sit there
and watch television.
1369
01:02:44,721 --> 01:02:46,655
Some cats will sit there
and watch television.
1370
01:02:46,723 --> 01:02:49,157
Some of them actually
even respond to the phasers
1371
01:02:49,225 --> 01:02:51,921
or some of the ships
going by on the screen, as well.
1372
01:02:51,995 --> 01:02:53,394
We're here for this convention,
1373
01:02:53,463 --> 01:02:54,862
and we're old friends
1374
01:02:54,931 --> 01:02:56,660
who met because of Star Trek,
1375
01:02:56,733 --> 01:02:58,667
and we're having
a 13-year reunion.
1376
01:02:58,735 --> 01:03:01,670
First time we've been together--
the 4 of us-- in 13 years.
1377
01:03:01,738 --> 01:03:04,673
We're so divergent in personality,
in backgrounds,
1378
01:03:04,741 --> 01:03:07,175
in our family styles
and everything,
1379
01:03:07,243 --> 01:03:10,804
and yet, we have
this common thread of Star Trek,
1380
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,279
which keeps us together.
1381
01:03:12,348 --> 01:03:14,339
Remember when-- the first
convention we went to,
1382
01:03:14,417 --> 01:03:16,351
we'd forgotten what it was like.
1383
01:03:16,419 --> 01:03:19,354
And we were at the convention,
and we were all accepted.
1384
01:03:19,422 --> 01:03:22,858
And when we left and we went back home,
we had to act normal again.
1385
01:03:22,992 --> 01:03:23,924
[Laughter]
1386
01:03:25,094 --> 01:03:27,358
I think if there's one thing
in this world
1387
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:30,866
that I will take to my grave
with me forever is the fans.
1388
01:03:30,933 --> 01:03:34,869
They are so loving, and they are
so warm, and they are so tender,
1389
01:03:34,937 --> 01:03:36,871
and if you go someplace,
like into a convention,
1390
01:03:36,939 --> 01:03:39,373
and you don't have
any friends there,
1391
01:03:39,442 --> 01:03:40,875
you don't know anybody there,
1392
01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:42,877
you really do
because they're all thinking--
1393
01:03:42,945 --> 01:03:45,505
somewhere along the line,
they're thinking like you are.
1394
01:03:45,581 --> 01:03:48,448
My family thinks
I'm the odd one of the family.
1395
01:03:48,518 --> 01:03:51,385
They think I'm totally weird,
but I found this club,
1396
01:03:51,454 --> 01:03:53,888
and I found out
I'm not the only one,
1397
01:03:53,956 --> 01:03:56,390
so I guess I'm not so weird
after all.
1398
01:03:56,459 --> 01:03:58,893
It's really great
to go to a convention,
1399
01:03:58,961 --> 01:04:00,451
and it's like a family reunion.
1400
01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:01,963
My wife is here,
1401
01:04:02,031 --> 01:04:03,999
and she and I met, actually,
in a Star Trek club.
1402
01:04:04,067 --> 01:04:07,332
I know a lot of people from around
the state that I would have never met
1403
01:04:07,403 --> 01:04:08,631
unless I joined this club.
1404
01:04:08,705 --> 01:04:10,832
So it's meeting people.
It's about people.
1405
01:04:10,907 --> 01:04:13,842
What we do is we usually
set up a recruiting table
1406
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:16,174
so that we can get new members
to join the organization.
1407
01:04:16,245 --> 01:04:17,837
Recruitment happens
every waking moment.
1408
01:04:17,914 --> 01:04:20,348
Every time you see one of us
1409
01:04:20,416 --> 01:04:22,850
either in uniform
or out on the street,
1410
01:04:22,919 --> 01:04:25,888
if our mouth is open and breath
comes forth, we're recruiting.
1411
01:04:25,955 --> 01:04:29,516
Woman: We belong to two
international fan clubs--
1412
01:04:29,592 --> 01:04:31,856
the United Federation
of Planets lnternational
1413
01:04:31,928 --> 01:04:33,520
and the Romulan Star Empire.
1414
01:04:33,596 --> 01:04:36,531
I am Linda Thuringer.
I am the captain,
1415
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:39,534
and my Romulan name
is Efa Tilavet,
1416
01:04:39,602 --> 01:04:45,040
and I am the commander of the Praetorian
Guard for the Romulan Star Empire.
1417
01:04:45,108 --> 01:04:46,541
Steve Menaugh.
1418
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:50,375
I'm the first officer, and my
Romulan name is Menhaltra Laheron,
1419
01:04:50,446 --> 01:04:52,778
and I'm the subcommander
of the Praetorian Guard.
1420
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:55,374
I am the security chief
for the Nemesis station,
1421
01:04:55,451 --> 01:04:57,885
and I'm also a member
of Romulan Star Empire.
1422
01:04:57,954 --> 01:04:59,512
My name is Terry Stenoe.
1423
01:04:59,589 --> 01:05:02,854
I'm the chief medical officer
on the Nemesis station.
1424
01:05:02,925 --> 01:05:06,326
Woman: I thought at first that
I was a little afraid to come
to my first meeting,
1425
01:05:06,395 --> 01:05:08,329
But it was just a lot of fun.
1426
01:05:08,397 --> 01:05:11,332
But the thing is about
this group is that it is unique.
1427
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,335
I think people are really
educated that are in this group.
1428
01:05:14,403 --> 01:05:15,836
They know a lot about science,
1429
01:05:15,905 --> 01:05:18,339
they know a lot about
what's going on in the world,
1430
01:05:18,407 --> 01:05:19,465
and it's neat
to be with people like that.
1431
01:05:19,542 --> 01:05:22,340
I think it's really fun
because you can--
1432
01:05:22,411 --> 01:05:25,847
because it's the only place
that I can think of
1433
01:05:25,915 --> 01:05:27,348
that you can goof off,
1434
01:05:27,416 --> 01:05:29,850
and grownups goof off
the same way
1435
01:05:29,919 --> 01:05:31,546
and about the same
acceptance.
1436
01:05:34,724 --> 01:05:35,622
Are you a Trekkie?
1437
01:05:35,691 --> 01:05:36,623
Totally.
1438
01:05:36,692 --> 01:05:38,353
How do you say "Trekkie"?
1439
01:05:38,427 --> 01:05:40,691
Lengwi' is a Trekkie.
Lengwi'.
1440
01:05:40,763 --> 01:05:42,697
Lengwi' jih
means "I'm a Trekkie."
1441
01:05:42,765 --> 01:05:44,926
"I'm a traveler" is really
what that means, but close enough.
1442
01:05:45,001 --> 01:05:45,990
Are you a Trekkie?
1443
01:05:46,068 --> 01:05:47,126
Yeah, I'd say I am.
1444
01:05:47,203 --> 01:05:48,636
I am a Trekkie.
1445
01:05:48,704 --> 01:05:50,137
Not card-carrying.
1446
01:05:50,206 --> 01:05:53,073
I'm not the kind that wears
uniforms all the time.
1447
01:05:53,142 --> 01:05:54,871
He is a card-carrying Trekkie.
1448
01:05:54,944 --> 01:05:56,377
He has a credit card
1449
01:05:56,445 --> 01:05:58,242
that says Star Trek on it.
1450
01:05:58,314 --> 01:06:00,680
At times, I'm a Trekkie,
and other times, I'm a Trekker.
1451
01:06:00,750 --> 01:06:05,278
Every serious fan
considers themself a Trekker.
1452
01:06:05,354 --> 01:06:06,719
Trekkie versus Trekker.
1453
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:07,756
I don't even know
what that is.
1454
01:06:07,824 --> 01:06:09,758
It's a generational-type thing.
1455
01:06:09,826 --> 01:06:15,264
The Trekkie is the-- either saw
old Star Trek when it first came out
1456
01:06:15,331 --> 01:06:19,267
or started in with the reruns
early in the seventies.
1457
01:06:19,335 --> 01:06:25,001
The Trekker is primarily someone who
started in with Next Generation or lV.
1458
01:06:25,074 --> 01:06:27,508
Trekkers seem to be,
like, snobs.
1459
01:06:27,577 --> 01:06:29,841
"I'm not a Trekkie,
I'm a Trekker."
1460
01:06:29,912 --> 01:06:33,313
"Trekker" sounds a little pretentious,
but at least it's preferable.
1461
01:06:33,382 --> 01:06:36,044
A Trekker is, in fact,
a star-trekker.
1462
01:06:36,118 --> 01:06:38,348
They are walking with us, right?
1463
01:06:38,421 --> 01:06:41,857
The Trekker is motivated.
The Trekker is in motion.
1464
01:06:41,924 --> 01:06:45,860
The Trekkie is a sort of
neutral, benign, harmless viewer
1465
01:06:45,928 --> 01:06:47,987
who just wants to watch.
1466
01:06:48,064 --> 01:06:49,497
I am a Trekkie.
1467
01:06:49,565 --> 01:06:52,898
Actually, we're called Trekkens,
but, yeah, I am a Trekkie.
1468
01:06:52,969 --> 01:06:54,698
Are we going to take a trek?
1469
01:06:54,770 --> 01:06:56,362
We're not a couple
of Trekkies, right?
1470
01:06:56,439 --> 01:06:57,872
Then we're watching the trek.
1471
01:06:57,940 --> 01:06:59,703
But the Trekker, then,
is coming with us.
1472
01:06:59,775 --> 01:07:02,369
Denis: A Trekker is
somebody who enjoys Star Trek.
1473
01:07:02,445 --> 01:07:05,380
They probably have
a small collection at home.
1474
01:07:05,448 --> 01:07:09,316
They're really into it,
they go to Star Trek conventions,
1475
01:07:09,385 --> 01:07:11,819
and sometimes they'll dress up
and things like that.
1476
01:07:11,888 --> 01:07:16,086
A Trekkie, they live their life
according to Star Trek laws.
1477
01:07:16,158 --> 01:07:17,591
I myself prefer "Trekker,"
1478
01:07:17,660 --> 01:07:19,321
but I'm not quite
as adamant about it
1479
01:07:19,395 --> 01:07:22,023
as some of the other
fans out there.
1480
01:07:22,098 --> 01:07:24,328
I don't really like
the Trekkie/Trekker labels
1481
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,164
because there's so much negative
connotations associated with that.
1482
01:07:27,236 --> 01:07:28,703
You say, "I'm a Trekker,"
1483
01:07:28,771 --> 01:07:32,832
and then people just start making
all the rude comments, et cetera,
1484
01:07:32,909 --> 01:07:36,174
so I'd rather be known
as a Spiner femme.
1485
01:07:36,245 --> 01:07:40,682
I usually just refer to myself
as a Star Trek fan
1486
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:44,345
and just forget about this whole
Trekkie/Trekker debacle.
1487
01:07:44,487 --> 01:07:47,354
I met William Shatner the first time
on the Tonight Show.
1488
01:07:47,423 --> 01:07:50,859
I was fortunate enough to get
the name of the casting director,
1489
01:07:50,927 --> 01:07:52,861
and I sent her a package
and found out
1490
01:07:52,929 --> 01:07:55,363
that within a couple weeks
after I sent that package
1491
01:07:55,431 --> 01:07:57,365
that he was due to be a guest.
1492
01:07:57,433 --> 01:08:00,368
They wanted me to come on
and do a quick spot with him,
1493
01:08:00,436 --> 01:08:02,370
which we did,
and it was great fun.
1494
01:08:02,438 --> 01:08:03,564
he was a perfect
gentleman to me.
1495
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:05,573
My name is James Kirk.
1496
01:08:05,641 --> 01:08:09,509
I changed my name because
ever since I was little,
1497
01:08:09,578 --> 01:08:15,016
I always wanted to change my name to
something I would enjoy, I would like,
1498
01:08:15,084 --> 01:08:16,813
something more befitting
my character.
1499
01:08:16,886 --> 01:08:21,323
I've had a lot of ridicule,
but I've had a lot of positive.
1500
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:25,827
A lot of people go, "l wish I had
the guts to do something like that
1501
01:08:25,895 --> 01:08:28,830
or change it to something
I would be pleased with."
1502
01:08:28,898 --> 01:08:31,992
I go, "You can. You can do
anything you want in life."
1503
01:08:32,068 --> 01:08:35,504
I am with the starship Riverside
from Riverside, lowa.
1504
01:08:35,571 --> 01:08:40,008
It's a small town that's become
famous because in the movies,
1505
01:08:40,076 --> 01:08:41,475
Kirk actually
says he's from lowa.
1506
01:08:41,544 --> 01:08:43,478
About approximately
12 years ago,
1507
01:08:43,546 --> 01:08:46,344
Riverside proclaimed the right
to be the future birthplace
1508
01:08:46,415 --> 01:08:48,110
of Captain James T. Kirk,
1509
01:08:48,184 --> 01:08:50,812
and so far, it's been a big boon
1510
01:08:50,886 --> 01:08:52,319
to the town.
1511
01:08:52,388 --> 01:08:53,514
We have our Star Trek fest
1512
01:08:53,589 --> 01:08:56,285
the last Saturday of every June.
1513
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:01,353
We get anywhere from 3,000
to maybe 6,000 people to town.
1514
01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:02,863
We have a parade, a carnival,
1515
01:09:02,932 --> 01:09:04,331
a contest.
1516
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,301
It's just really a boon
to the town.
1517
01:09:07,370 --> 01:09:09,429
[Applause And Cheering]
1518
01:09:09,505 --> 01:09:10,938
Jimmy, my boy, Jimmy!
1519
01:09:11,007 --> 01:09:12,099
Happy birthday!
1520
01:09:12,174 --> 01:09:13,971
Man: We've been having
this party now for years.
1521
01:09:14,043 --> 01:09:17,604
It seems like every year,
it gets to be a little bit more fun
1522
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,477
and a couple more people come.
1523
01:09:19,548 --> 01:09:21,641
You know, it started off small,
1524
01:09:21,717 --> 01:09:24,652
and now the younger
people are coming,
1525
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,484
and this year, we had a girl
come and everything,
1526
01:09:27,556 --> 01:09:30,491
so, you know, I just foresee it
going on and on.
1527
01:09:30,559 --> 01:09:32,993
Man: It's just kind of a fun
bonding thing we do out here.
1528
01:09:33,062 --> 01:09:36,498
Every year, I whip up my
world-famous Romulan concoction.
1529
01:09:36,565 --> 01:09:38,465
I won't reveal the ingredients.
1530
01:09:38,534 --> 01:09:42,163
Man: You know, I like the Vulcan.
The Vulcan's a very logical person.
1531
01:09:42,238 --> 01:09:45,674
That's why I like Spock,
and he's very logical,
1532
01:09:45,741 --> 01:09:50,337
and with the conventions that we go to,
there's a lot of Klingons.
1533
01:09:50,413 --> 01:09:53,849
And being a Vulcan, it's kind of nice
to kind of stand out in that way,
1534
01:09:53,916 --> 01:09:58,552
and, you know, the Vulcans are obviously
a lot smarter than the Klingons as well.
1535
01:10:02,956 --> 01:10:05,117
Man: I drove down
from Calgary today
1536
01:10:05,191 --> 01:10:08,092
to take a look
at the starship Enterprise,
1537
01:10:08,161 --> 01:10:12,029
The model that we have here
in Vulcan, Alberta.
1538
01:10:12,098 --> 01:10:15,261
I'm really impressed with
the beautiful job they've done on it,
1539
01:10:15,335 --> 01:10:17,963
and I think it's really great
that here in Canada,
1540
01:10:18,038 --> 01:10:20,472
the town of Vulcan has adopted
1541
01:10:20,540 --> 01:10:22,064
the Star Trek theme.
1542
01:10:22,142 --> 01:10:24,474
Man: We really enjoy
having people
1543
01:10:24,544 --> 01:10:29,811
from all over the world to talk with and
share with us their stories of Star Trek
1544
01:10:29,883 --> 01:10:32,681
and the things that
they've been involved with.
1545
01:10:32,752 --> 01:10:35,516
Woman: I'm visiting Vulcan today
because of the Star Trek convention.
1546
01:10:35,589 --> 01:10:37,557
Obviously,
it's a Vulcan community.
1547
01:10:37,624 --> 01:10:41,492
My heroes are Spock and Tuvok
and Spock's father.
1548
01:10:41,561 --> 01:10:44,826
Man: Some people have fake
or phony Spock ears,
1549
01:10:44,898 --> 01:10:47,332
but I have the real thing.
1550
01:10:48,868 --> 01:10:55,501
It's been a--as you can imagine,
30 years of amazing experiences,
1551
01:10:55,575 --> 01:10:57,008
one after another.
1552
01:10:57,077 --> 01:11:01,343
I was at a party once many years ago
that Paramount was giving,
1553
01:11:01,414 --> 01:11:03,348
a big promotional party
for a number of their movies,
1554
01:11:03,416 --> 01:11:06,943
and all of the stars of these various
films were there, and I was invited.
1555
01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:09,614
The place was packed with
people, and it was in New Y ork,
1556
01:11:09,689 --> 01:11:12,123
and I felt a pair of hands
on my shoulder.
1557
01:11:12,192 --> 01:11:16,629
And, um...somebody
whispered into my ear and said,
1558
01:11:16,696 --> 01:11:18,630
"l recognize you.
1559
01:11:18,698 --> 01:11:20,632
You had your ears fixed."
1560
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,134
And it was John Wayne.
1561
01:11:25,205 --> 01:11:28,868
Everybody was doing ear jokes
in those days.
1562
01:11:30,543 --> 01:11:33,103
I got a kick out of that.
It was fun.
1563
01:11:33,179 --> 01:11:36,114
There is a great deal
of my personality
1564
01:11:36,182 --> 01:11:37,979
that is Mr. Spock.
1565
01:11:38,051 --> 01:11:40,986
I try to function on logic
and intelligence
1566
01:11:41,054 --> 01:11:44,114
and not get carried away
with emotion.
1567
01:11:44,190 --> 01:11:46,658
I do consider myself,
as I say, half Vulcan.
1568
01:11:46,726 --> 01:11:48,990
I did draw the line, though,
1569
01:11:49,062 --> 01:11:52,498
at having my ears
surgically altered to points.
1570
01:11:52,565 --> 01:11:55,125
It was just too expensive.
1571
01:11:55,201 --> 01:11:58,329
But I'll tell you
the real truth.
1572
01:11:58,405 --> 01:12:00,339
I...
1573
01:12:00,407 --> 01:12:03,843
If I had the money,
I would do it.
1574
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:06,606
I don't march
to the regular drummer.
1575
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,275
You would go through the pain
of having your ears surgically altered?
1576
01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:11,442
Yeah. I really would.
1577
01:12:11,518 --> 01:12:14,282
And it's not so much...
1578
01:12:14,354 --> 01:12:16,447
Yeah. I really would.
1579
01:12:16,523 --> 01:12:18,957
I like to be different,
1580
01:12:19,025 --> 01:12:22,620
and this is a unique way
of being different,
1581
01:12:22,696 --> 01:12:24,288
and it's a noninvasive,
1582
01:12:24,364 --> 01:12:27,128
nonharmful way
of being different.
1583
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,464
And even if I have
pointed ears,
1584
01:12:29,536 --> 01:12:32,801
I can still function in the world
in whatever I do.
1585
01:12:32,872 --> 01:12:34,806
It just makes me
that much more different,
1586
01:12:34,874 --> 01:12:36,808
and I would think
in a positive way.
1587
01:12:36,876 --> 01:12:39,811
But I don't think I'll be out,
you know, getting it tomorrow.
1588
01:12:39,879 --> 01:12:41,813
I would hope
he couldn't find a doctor
1589
01:12:41,881 --> 01:12:44,315
who'd be willing
to do that, personally.
1590
01:12:45,752 --> 01:12:47,811
This is Computer.
1591
01:12:47,887 --> 01:12:49,821
This is-- Hi, Computer.
1592
01:12:49,889 --> 01:12:51,356
This is my dog.
1593
01:12:51,424 --> 01:12:54,791
All the stuff that Star Trek
predicted is all coming true.
1594
01:12:54,861 --> 01:12:56,988
The talking computers--
I mean, computers are better now
1595
01:12:57,063 --> 01:12:58,963
than they were
in the original series.
1596
01:12:59,032 --> 01:13:04,493
There are people that are intrigued by
the speculative technology on Star Trek.
1597
01:13:04,571 --> 01:13:06,664
You know, my buddies would have
Cheryl Tiegs, Freddie Mercury,
1598
01:13:06,740 --> 01:13:08,503
Farrah Fawcett posters
in their bedroom.
1599
01:13:08,575 --> 01:13:10,839
I had the blueprints
for the Enterprise.
1600
01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:13,504
I started to build this--Nomad.
1601
01:13:13,580 --> 01:13:16,845
This is from the episode
"The Changeling,"
1602
01:13:16,916 --> 01:13:20,010
where the--it's going to--
1603
01:13:20,086 --> 01:13:24,113
The computer robot is going to
sterilize the Enterprise and destroy it.
1604
01:13:24,190 --> 01:13:29,287
One of my other projects
is the Romulan cloaking device.
1605
01:13:29,362 --> 01:13:31,193
I've started it here,
as you can see.
1606
01:13:31,264 --> 01:13:34,859
This is the main
power generator unit.
1607
01:13:34,934 --> 01:13:37,528
This is the--the round part here
1608
01:13:37,604 --> 01:13:40,129
of the actual cloaking device,
1609
01:13:40,206 --> 01:13:45,371
and I think I can modify it just like
they did in "The Enterprise lncident."
1610
01:13:45,445 --> 01:13:50,075
I can modify it for use
on a Federation ship.
1611
01:13:50,150 --> 01:13:52,209
I mean, I've built
a lot of stuff, you know,
1612
01:13:52,285 --> 01:13:54,549
Iike a communicator, phaser.
1613
01:13:54,621 --> 01:13:56,714
The best one, the one
that's the coolest,
1614
01:13:56,790 --> 01:14:00,726
is the chair that Captain Pike
was in after he was crippled
1615
01:14:00,794 --> 01:14:03,058
from radiation burns.
1616
01:14:04,597 --> 01:14:08,829
This is Captain Pike's total
life support unit, as you can see.
1617
01:14:08,902 --> 01:14:11,837
It encompasses the entire body
except for the head,
1618
01:14:11,905 --> 01:14:15,773
and it supports life and takes him
wherever he needs to go.
1619
01:14:15,842 --> 01:14:18,174
The beautiful simplicity
of the way it works
1620
01:14:18,244 --> 01:14:20,178
is that you can ask him
a yes or no question,
1621
01:14:20,246 --> 01:14:22,441
kind of like a binary computer,
1622
01:14:22,515 --> 01:14:25,006
and for yes, it's one blink,
1623
01:14:25,084 --> 01:14:27,018
and for no, it's two blinks.
1624
01:14:27,086 --> 01:14:32,023
So if you ask me any question,
I can just answer with a yes or a...
1625
01:14:32,091 --> 01:14:33,786
no, just like that.
1626
01:14:33,860 --> 01:14:35,350
It's motorized,
so I drive it around.
1627
01:14:35,428 --> 01:14:36,986
I drive it in parades and stuff.
1628
01:14:39,933 --> 01:14:42,629
Hi. Is Craig around?
1629
01:14:43,937 --> 01:14:47,703
I think he set aside some
stuff for me, some parts--
1630
01:14:47,774 --> 01:14:52,609
an H.P. 12-volt unit
and some transistors and a relay.
1631
01:14:55,348 --> 01:14:58,283
I talked to Craig
about my Nomad project,
1632
01:14:58,351 --> 01:15:03,050
and he, um, he said I could
maybe use the 3.9 ohm resistors
1633
01:15:03,122 --> 01:15:05,056
or the 270s.
1634
01:15:05,124 --> 01:15:08,059
Do you think I could get away
with it with the 270s?
1635
01:15:08,127 --> 01:15:11,654
For my next project, I'm going
to build a dilithium chamber
1636
01:15:11,731 --> 01:15:13,164
after I'm done with Nomad,
1637
01:15:13,233 --> 01:15:16,259
and I'm going to build
some antigravs, too, after that.
1638
01:15:16,336 --> 01:15:18,327
Maybe an M-5 computer.
1639
01:15:18,404 --> 01:15:20,838
And I'm going to connect
my house with Jefferies tubes.
1640
01:15:20,907 --> 01:15:24,343
I got a lot of projects, like,
down the road to do, to build.
1641
01:15:24,410 --> 01:15:27,504
Star Trek, I think, has had
a lot of impact on the future.
1642
01:15:27,580 --> 01:15:29,343
I mean, we have
cellular flip phones.
1643
01:15:29,415 --> 01:15:33,852
They have nuclear-powered
rocket engines already that will
I'm sure take us to Mars,
1644
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,321
and basically, all
science fiction now is true.
1645
01:15:43,563 --> 01:15:46,361
Star Trek has always been
a real fun part of my life.
1646
01:15:46,432 --> 01:15:50,368
As a matter of fact, it was
one of the big motivators for me
going to the Air Force Academy.
1647
01:15:50,436 --> 01:15:52,529
It encouraged me
to go out and study,
1648
01:15:52,605 --> 01:15:55,870
and being that Star Trek
took place in space,
1649
01:15:55,942 --> 01:15:59,537
it turned my interest towards
things of a space nature,
1650
01:15:59,612 --> 01:16:01,807
such as astronomy
and astrophysics.
1651
01:16:01,881 --> 01:16:06,147
As a result, I got both my bachelor's
and my master's in astronomy,
1652
01:16:06,219 --> 01:16:09,985
and I now work as a data analyst
for the Hubble Space Telescope
Science lnstitute.
1653
01:16:10,056 --> 01:16:13,992
I really liked Spock's mind,
his logical mind,
1654
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:17,154
and that pushed me
into a logical field.
1655
01:16:17,230 --> 01:16:19,494
Or at least, it helped push me
into a logical field,
1656
01:16:19,565 --> 01:16:20,691
which is computer science.
1657
01:16:20,767 --> 01:16:21,699
It's unbelievable.
1658
01:16:21,768 --> 01:16:22,700
Crosby:
Oh, absolutely.
1659
01:16:22,769 --> 01:16:24,168
It has had
such an effect,
1660
01:16:24,237 --> 01:16:26,501
just from an educational
angle alone.
1661
01:16:26,572 --> 01:16:30,008
Oh, it's--it's affected,
I mean, all of us.
1662
01:16:30,076 --> 01:16:33,944
All the actors have
received so much mail.
1663
01:16:34,013 --> 01:16:37,346
I get a lot of mail
from parents who tell me,
1664
01:16:37,417 --> 01:16:39,851
"We really appreciate
what you did
1665
01:16:39,919 --> 01:16:42,114
because you provided a positive
role model for our son."
1666
01:16:42,188 --> 01:16:46,522
I very much support the future
that Gene projected
1667
01:16:46,592 --> 01:16:50,187
as far as
an elimination of hunger
1668
01:16:50,263 --> 01:16:52,356
and elimination of poverty.
1669
01:16:52,432 --> 01:16:55,026
I think that Star Trek has
a really, really neat message.
1670
01:16:55,101 --> 01:16:58,537
The whole infinite diversity
in infinite combinations
1671
01:16:58,604 --> 01:17:00,196
is something that's very
attractive to all of us,
1672
01:17:00,273 --> 01:17:03,037
and it's something that I wish
the world would grasp onto
1673
01:17:03,109 --> 01:17:05,509
as beautifully as
the Star Trek fans have.
1674
01:17:05,578 --> 01:17:10,311
People of all races, religions,
political backgrounds,
1675
01:17:10,383 --> 01:17:13,147
sizes, shapes, et cetera,
1676
01:17:13,219 --> 01:17:16,154
are all absolutely equal
at a convention,
1677
01:17:16,222 --> 01:17:19,157
and nobody is ostracized
because they're different.
1678
01:17:19,225 --> 01:17:21,318
I think that attracts
a lot of people
1679
01:17:21,394 --> 01:17:22,986
because elsewhere
in their lives,
1680
01:17:23,062 --> 01:17:25,531
they don't have
that kind of freedom.
1681
01:17:25,664 --> 01:17:27,154
Well, this weekend
was great
1682
01:17:27,232 --> 01:17:29,325
because I got to
go to the convention
1683
01:17:29,401 --> 01:17:31,494
and pick up some great stuff
at the dealer tables
1684
01:17:31,570 --> 01:17:35,006
and meet some of my favorite cast
members from the series
1685
01:17:35,073 --> 01:17:37,337
and get their
signature and...
1686
01:17:37,409 --> 01:17:39,001
Talking to them,
shaking their hand
1687
01:17:39,077 --> 01:17:41,511
is just the most wonderful thing
you can ever imagine.
1688
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:43,343
Well, I also got to meet
1689
01:17:43,415 --> 01:17:45,849
a lot of other fans
very similar to myself,
1690
01:17:45,918 --> 01:17:49,513
and, uh, they're great,
gorgeous people
1691
01:17:49,588 --> 01:17:52,182
who really know how
to place Star Trek
1692
01:17:52,257 --> 01:17:55,351
in the proper context
with the rest of their lives,
1693
01:17:55,427 --> 01:17:58,885
and that's a unique
gift for fans.
1694
01:17:58,964 --> 01:18:03,867
I met a very
wonderfully talented lady
1695
01:18:03,936 --> 01:18:05,699
who was a political cartoonist,
1696
01:18:05,771 --> 01:18:08,137
an English lady named Sue Coe.
1697
01:18:08,206 --> 01:18:12,643
But when she saw Star Trek...
1698
01:18:12,711 --> 01:18:15,805
it gave her a vision,
1699
01:18:15,881 --> 01:18:19,317
not of a world, necessarily,
that she could live in,
1700
01:18:19,384 --> 01:18:22,979
but it gave her a vision that--
it gave her an understanding
1701
01:18:23,055 --> 01:18:25,990
that there were people who
were thinking those thoughts,
1702
01:18:26,058 --> 01:18:27,787
the people who were
making the show.
1703
01:18:27,859 --> 01:18:29,986
The reason most of the people
I know like Star Trek
1704
01:18:30,062 --> 01:18:34,499
is it expresses issues that
can't normally be expressed
1705
01:18:34,566 --> 01:18:37,831
in today's society without
somebody coming down on you
1706
01:18:37,903 --> 01:18:40,531
or looking at you funny
or hauling you off.
1707
01:18:40,606 --> 01:18:44,007
My father grew up
in, um, in the Nazi era.
1708
01:18:44,076 --> 01:18:46,010
He was in Poland
when it was taken over,
1709
01:18:46,078 --> 01:18:49,946
and because he was a German citizen, or
considered German, they were protected.
1710
01:18:50,015 --> 01:18:51,710
When they came
to the United States,
1711
01:18:51,783 --> 01:18:54,684
he came to realize that the principles
that he grew up with were wrong,
1712
01:18:54,753 --> 01:18:56,516
and when we watched Star Trek,
he would tell me,
1713
01:18:56,588 --> 01:18:59,352
"The things that they're doing there
is the right thing to think."
1714
01:18:59,424 --> 01:19:02,860
The right things, you know, like
treating people like they're equals
1715
01:19:02,928 --> 01:19:04,896
and treating people
with respect.
1716
01:19:04,963 --> 01:19:08,694
I would love to believe that
everybody can get along in the future.
1717
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:14,636
We struck a note, a chord,
with the youth of this country,
1718
01:19:14,706 --> 01:19:20,110
and particularly those who came back
from Vietnam and the hippies.
1719
01:19:20,178 --> 01:19:23,477
Plus the fact it came
at a very turbulent time
1720
01:19:23,548 --> 01:19:25,982
when the future
of society, the planet,
1721
01:19:26,051 --> 01:19:27,643
everything was up for grabs.
1722
01:19:27,719 --> 01:19:28,879
Nobody knew where we were going.
1723
01:19:28,954 --> 01:19:32,151
For the first time,
people--on television,
1724
01:19:32,224 --> 01:19:35,819
people saw themselves...
1725
01:19:35,894 --> 01:19:39,330
men and women, as equals.
1726
01:19:39,398 --> 01:19:42,993
I think I like the hope
and the chances it gives people.
1727
01:19:43,068 --> 01:19:44,831
Especially gay men
and lesbian women,
1728
01:19:44,903 --> 01:19:47,997
they're living in a world
and a society that's not accepting.
1729
01:19:48,073 --> 01:19:50,667
There's a dream that
one day down the road,
1730
01:19:50,742 --> 01:19:52,004
there will be acceptance.
1731
01:19:52,077 --> 01:19:53,510
I think Gene Roddenberry,
at that time,
1732
01:19:53,578 --> 01:19:56,706
offered a vision of hope
and that we would have a future.
1733
01:19:56,782 --> 01:20:00,843
Not only did we not annihilate
ourselves on this planet,
1734
01:20:00,919 --> 01:20:03,183
but we are going forth.
1735
01:20:03,255 --> 01:20:05,348
What progress!
1736
01:20:05,424 --> 01:20:08,552
With a sense of adventure.
1737
01:20:08,627 --> 01:20:10,618
Gene said not only
there is going to be a tomorrow,
1738
01:20:10,696 --> 01:20:13,961
but it's going to be a better,
kinder, more gentle world tomorrow.
1739
01:20:14,032 --> 01:20:18,969
And he liked to talk about
the things that bug us today,
which was back in the sixties,
1740
01:20:19,037 --> 01:20:21,301
and put them in some kind
of a disguised form
1741
01:20:21,373 --> 01:20:23,807
because of course, the network
would never let us talk about
1742
01:20:23,875 --> 01:20:26,969
things that were political
or war or stuff like this.
1743
01:20:27,045 --> 01:20:29,479
We couldn't mention
the black/white problem,
1744
01:20:29,548 --> 01:20:30,981
so you know what happened--
1745
01:20:31,049 --> 01:20:33,313
We painted Frank Gorshin
half-black and half-white
1746
01:20:33,385 --> 01:20:35,478
and his adversary was half-white
and half-black.
1747
01:20:35,554 --> 01:20:38,990
We set them at each other,
and it looked so ridiculous up on screen
1748
01:20:39,057 --> 01:20:42,049
that everybody had to look at it
and say, "Hey, we get this."
1749
01:20:42,127 --> 01:20:44,493
I think this is going to be
my basic prediction here,
1750
01:20:44,563 --> 01:20:49,000
that Star Trek will become
the blueprint for the 21st century.
1751
01:20:49,067 --> 01:20:52,002
The philosophy, the ideals,
the prime directive--
1752
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:57,030
they're all going to be a genetic map
for a better future,
1753
01:20:57,109 --> 01:20:59,577
a better tomorrow,
for better mankind.
1754
01:20:59,644 --> 01:21:02,670
My feeling is that
we've had a great time.
1755
01:21:02,748 --> 01:21:05,842
We've had 30 years.
There have been tribulations and trials
1756
01:21:05,917 --> 01:21:08,613
as well as triumphs,
1757
01:21:08,687 --> 01:21:13,954
but, you know, the consensus
is of a very positive nature.
1758
01:21:14,025 --> 01:21:16,789
I don't want to be
one of those people
1759
01:21:16,862 --> 01:21:19,626
who's still talking about it
20 years--
1760
01:21:19,698 --> 01:21:21,632
Well, it is. It's 30 years
after the fact.
1761
01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:23,292
God almighty.
I am one of those people!
1762
01:21:23,368 --> 01:21:25,131
Oh, my God! No!
1763
01:21:25,203 --> 01:21:27,467
We would do these conventions.
We'd say,
1764
01:21:27,539 --> 01:21:31,475
"Well, it will probably last another
couple of years and that'll be it,"
1765
01:21:31,543 --> 01:21:34,137
you know.
1766
01:21:34,212 --> 01:21:40,981
10 years later, we're saying,
"Well, it'll probably last
another couple of years."
1767
01:21:41,052 --> 01:21:44,351
20 years later, we're saying, "Good God,
it's going to go on forever."
1768
01:21:44,422 --> 01:21:46,151
I don't think that
it will ever die.
1769
01:21:46,224 --> 01:21:48,818
I don't think that something
like that can ever die.
1770
01:21:48,894 --> 01:21:52,830
You've got a phenomenon. After all,
this is our 20th century mythology.
1771
01:21:52,898 --> 01:21:55,025
That's big.
1772
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:56,499
I don't know.
I hope it lasts forever.
1773
01:21:56,568 --> 01:22:00,664
It's a good thing.
It's--It's, um...
1774
01:22:00,739 --> 01:22:04,641
As long as it's thoughtful,
it's a good thing.
1775
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:06,438
And remember,
live long and prosper.
1776
01:22:06,511 --> 01:22:07,739
Man: Good night,
everyone.
1777
01:22:07,813 --> 01:22:08,745
Good night, all.
God bless.
1778
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,940
I want to thank all of you
for my stamp,
1779
01:22:12,017 --> 01:22:14,952
And I want you to know
I'm a Trekkie, too.
1780
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:19,457
I love Star Trek,
and all I can say is this...
1781
01:22:19,524 --> 01:22:27,329
& Glory, glory, hallelujah &
1782
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:36,501
& Star Trek's truth
is marching on &
1783
01:22:36,575 --> 01:22:41,979
& lts truth is marching &
1784
01:22:42,047 --> 01:22:44,982
Ladies and gentlemen,
live long and prosper.
1785
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:46,312
Uh-huh.
1786
01:22:46,384 --> 01:22:49,478
& On &
1787
01:22:49,554 --> 01:22:52,489
Thank you. Hah!
1788
01:22:52,557 --> 01:22:54,325
Thank you.
1789
01:22:56,060 --> 01:22:58,824
I am a big Star Trek fan
1790
01:22:58,896 --> 01:23:02,332
and got beat up most of my life
for being a Star Trek fan,
1791
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:05,835
usually by sports fans,
which I think is ironic, 'cause, um...
1792
01:23:05,903 --> 01:23:08,497
someone that's, like,
really into football
1793
01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:11,336
will wear the uniform
of the game, a jersey,
1794
01:23:11,408 --> 01:23:13,000
and walk around town,
and that's fine.
1795
01:23:13,077 --> 01:23:16,843
Yet if I put on my Klingon uniform
and go to Safeway,
1796
01:23:16,914 --> 01:23:19,678
I'm a big f--king geek,
you know.
1797
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:23,345
"Excuse me. These yams
have no honor."
1798
01:23:23,420 --> 01:23:27,254
I love their motto-- We boldly go
where no man has gone before.
1799
01:23:27,324 --> 01:23:29,849
But when they get there,
there's someone waiting for them.
1800
01:23:32,329 --> 01:23:35,298
James Kirk as an archaeologist.
1801
01:23:35,366 --> 01:23:37,527
Bones!
1802
01:23:37,601 --> 01:23:39,193
You know, there's supposed to be
this prime directive,
1803
01:23:39,269 --> 01:23:42,204
you don't tamper with cultures
because you're so advanced.
1804
01:23:42,272 --> 01:23:44,365
When you land on their planet, you don't
mess with any of their beliefs.
1805
01:23:44,441 --> 01:23:46,705
You just get that one thing
you need and you beam out.
1806
01:23:46,777 --> 01:23:49,211
He didn't pay attention
to that at all, man.
1807
01:23:49,279 --> 01:23:53,045
He would just burst into their
hallway, "Your bible is a lie!
1808
01:23:53,117 --> 01:23:56,052
Everything you believe is wrong.
Run! Freak out!
1809
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,112
I'm the bloated God-being
from the sky."
1810
01:23:59,189 --> 01:24:03,717
They've always got one minority
that gets beamed down
that don't come back up.
1811
01:24:03,794 --> 01:24:07,161
It's like, "OK. Jim, Spock,
Bones, Scotty...
1812
01:24:07,231 --> 01:24:09,165
and Rodriguez."
1813
01:24:09,233 --> 01:24:11,827
Rodriguez is dead.
1814
01:24:11,902 --> 01:24:16,498
When they get down there, Jim goes,
"Rodriguez, check behind that rock.
1815
01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:19,667
Regular cast, stand over here...
1816
01:24:19,743 --> 01:24:23,839
'cause there's a brain-sucking
plant behind the rock."
1817
01:24:23,914 --> 01:24:27,680
We want Rodriguez to say,
"Hey, Jim, you check behind that rock.
1818
01:24:27,751 --> 01:24:31,812
I lost two cousins
on this show last season."
1819
01:24:31,889 --> 01:24:36,019
Remember the old one with the 3 brains
in the jars with the gambling problem?
1820
01:24:36,093 --> 01:24:39,529
Remember that? "l bet 400 quatloos
on the newcomer."
1821
01:24:39,596 --> 01:24:41,530
"Where are you from?"
"Earth."
1822
01:24:41,598 --> 01:24:44,692
"What's the spread
on the UCLA game?
1823
01:24:44,768 --> 01:24:46,793
Got a lot of quatloos on that."
1824
01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:49,361
One day you'll have Klingon comics.
1825
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,032
Worf as a comic.
1826
01:24:51,108 --> 01:24:54,202
[Deep Voice]
"Thank you.
1827
01:24:54,278 --> 01:24:59,215
It's a pleasure to be here
at the first ice house on Klingon.
1828
01:24:59,283 --> 01:25:02,047
Remember when you were in school,
1829
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:04,883
and your teacher would anger you,
1830
01:25:04,955 --> 01:25:07,150
forcing you to kill him?"
1831
01:25:07,224 --> 01:25:09,488
[Laughter]
1832
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,653
"My father would be so proud of me,
1833
01:25:11,728 --> 01:25:15,824
he'd hold my hands
in the flames of Roqah."
1834
01:25:15,899 --> 01:25:18,493
"Scotty! How are the engines?
1835
01:25:18,569 --> 01:25:22,005
And don't use a metaphor."
1836
01:25:22,072 --> 01:25:25,667
"Aye, sir. The circuit board
is cross-wired
1837
01:25:25,742 --> 01:25:28,836
Iike a Christmas tree
on the Fourth of July."
1838
01:25:28,912 --> 01:25:30,607
"No, Scotty!
1839
01:25:30,681 --> 01:25:32,672
The engines, Scotty.
How are the engines?"
1840
01:25:32,749 --> 01:25:36,685
"Aye. They're overheated, sir,
like a supernova in the middle of August
1841
01:25:36,753 --> 01:25:40,348
with the windows closed."
"No, Scotty, no metaphors!"
1842
01:25:40,424 --> 01:25:42,858
"Can I use a simile, sir?"
"No!"
1843
01:25:42,926 --> 01:25:44,359
"An allegory?"
"No!"
1844
01:25:44,428 --> 01:25:47,693
"Can I tell an anecdote?"
"The Klingons are here!"
1845
01:25:47,764 --> 01:25:49,197
Weinhold: Remember Wesley,
the little kid?
1846
01:25:49,266 --> 01:25:51,359
14 years old,
he's never kissed anyone.
1847
01:25:51,435 --> 01:25:53,869
There's a holodeck
on the ship.
1848
01:25:53,937 --> 01:25:57,532
Now...if I had a holodeck...
1849
01:25:57,608 --> 01:26:00,202
when I was 14,
1850
01:26:00,277 --> 01:26:01,869
I never would have
left the thing.
1851
01:26:01,945 --> 01:26:03,879
They'd have to send
Captain Picard looking for me.
1852
01:26:03,947 --> 01:26:06,211
"Where's Weinhold?"
"He's in Holodeck One."
1853
01:26:06,283 --> 01:26:08,649
The doors open up,
I'm climbing out of a giant --.
1854
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:10,311
[Laughter]
1855
01:26:12,055 --> 01:26:14,489
"It's time you saw
Counselor Troi."
1856
01:26:14,558 --> 01:26:16,651
"This is Counselor Troi!"
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