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The following is an interpretation
of events based on..
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Baniszewski v. The State of Indiana, 1966.
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All testimonies comes
from court transcripts.
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I used to love the carnival.
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Daddy worked all the fairs
selling pretzel’s...
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and candy apple.
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Always looking for something better.
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Sometimes mama would follow him...
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sometimes he even take us.
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It was always a new adventure...
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with a whole new family,
every time.
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I figured Jennie and me, were...
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the luckiest girls in the world.
with a life like that.
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My favorite was the merry-go-round...
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Maybe I was a little
old for it, but...
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all those other rides
they scared me.
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The merry-go-round, just goes
round and round, and up and down.
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It don't go anywhere,
but I always felt save.
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That's me on the left.
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Sylvia.
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And that's my story.
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I'm a Prostitute and proud of it.
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Would you please state your name.
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Lester Likens.
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Are you married to Betty Likens?
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Yes.
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Did you and your wife ever separate?
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Yes.
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What period of time did that occur?
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The last week in June 1965.
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She was at Euclid street,
and I was in Lebanon, Indiana.
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Where were the children?
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Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie
was with her.
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Do you think,
we'll make new friends?
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Sure we will.
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Well, maybe there'll be
some cute boys this time.
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They're supposed to be cute.
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Come on girls, you don't
wanna be late now for church.
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Hey!
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Daddy?
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- Hey, Jennie.
- What're you doing here?
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Well, I missed you girls.
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Hi Betty, can I talk
to for a minute?
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You know, I've been talking
to a Horst and he says...
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that we could maybe play our own
band at the state-fair this year.
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Then maybe we could make
enough money to go on tour.
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I told Lester, that I
can't do it anymore...
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not with the girls.
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Maybe my mother will take them.
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I can't move them up there again.
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They haven't even had a chance
to make friends down here yet.
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Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight
as much, without the kids.
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Mama?
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You two, go on ahead and
catch the church bus home.
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I've gotta settle things
with your father.
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See what love the
father has given us...
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and we are called children of god.
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And so we are!
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But how does a child,
come on to his father?
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How does the father,
come on to the child?
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Christ said: I am the way.
The truth, the live and love.
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Come on to the father, but by me.
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Our families,
our fathers, our mothers.
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It is only through Christ,
that we find our father.
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And it's only through Christ,
that we find each other.
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Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope.
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Oh, thank you, Gertrude.
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And huh... I'm feeling much
better, with my new medicine...
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and... you know anybody, that
needs ironing to be done...
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I'd appreciate the work.
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I'll do that.
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Thank you.
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What happened to your leg?
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That's not nice, Shirley!
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That's alright, she's used to it.
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- So what is it?
- Polio.
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Polio?
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Does that hurt?
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Our mama is a sick too.
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All right girls!
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We gotta go.
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Can they come with us?
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You wanna come? We've got
some friends coming over...
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and you can meet our older sister.
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- Let's do.
- Sure!
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Guess who got stuck with
an extra shift at work?
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- Did you get paid?
- Mm'hm.
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Got a little extra for dinner.
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Here, take the baby.
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Where'd they come from?
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What's this?
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We invited them to stay and play.
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We'll be quiet.
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All right, make sure of it.
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I really like this song.
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What's your dad do?
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He is cop, they are divorced.
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Do you miss him any?
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Nah, I just miss his money.
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- But, Paula!
- Well, it's true.
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Maybe, if he's more
regular with his support...
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Mom wouldn't be so sick...
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and I wouldn't have to work so hard.
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Little Kenny's got a different daddy.
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- Who's little Kenny?
- The baby.
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But we ain't supposed
to talk about that.
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Auh!
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Finished!
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Wow! You should do this for a living.
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Yeah, if she was old enough.
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You want me to do yours?
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Oh, no, thanks.
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Yeah, she's the pretty one.
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Yeah, she's got nice hair.
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- I'm pretty too.
- The hell you are!
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Oh, let me see that brush.
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I tell you what?
Let's go get a coke.
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My boyfriend works over at the
liquor store, get him to buy a couple.
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Sure.
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You girls behave!
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We're goin' to groceries.
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Tell Andy, he owes me
for little Kenny!
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And don't be waistin'
time on that bag-boy.
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He ain't a bag-boy, Mama!
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Sort of wasted space.
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- She don't like my boyfriend.
- Yeah, I can see that.
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Hey, Johnny, quit it!
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Sorry, Mrs. Doyle.
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Hey!
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You weren't at church today.
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Coy and I headin' over there now.
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Yeah, you better be.
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Let's get outta here.
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That's my sister Stephanie,
she's big help around the house...
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when she ain't wasting time
with her boyfriend Coy.
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Oh, God.
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Hey, Paula.
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Mama was asking you for her money.
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I bet she was.
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Who's your friend?
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Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash.
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Excuse me.
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That's my mama's ex boyfriend.
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He's only 6 years older than me.
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Just like her mom.
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That's him.
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That's my Bradley.
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He's real cute.
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We got both to be real
careful about it.
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Why?
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Because he's married.
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I'm not even shittin' you, no!
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Paula!
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Don't tell me you never
had a boyfriend.
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Ah, well, there was this guy
in California, but...
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I guess it was nothing.
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Well, at least you did
more than just kiss, huh?
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Well, aren't you just so damn pure.
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Oh, come on.
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Let's go!
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<i>This is Pleiku,
250 miles north of Saigon.</i>
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<i>The Air Force Base,
that was threatened...</i>
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<i>by Communist Guerillas...</i>
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Marie!
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I need you to feed little Kenny.
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If I don't get this ironing to
Mrs. Duke by four, I wont get a tip.
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- We're all out of milk.
- Well, then get some.
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They wont give us no more
credit at the store.
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They will, if you take the baby.
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Hello!
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Oh, hi, I'm sorry.
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Huh, somebody said they
saw my girls here.
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You got no family here in Indy?
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Well, not that I could leave'm with.
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'Cause of them or you?
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A little of both.
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Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski,
is Shirley and Marie here?
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Upstairs.
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Shut the door!
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Looks like, you've got kids running
in and outta here, all day long.
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Why don't you leave Sylvia
and Jenny, here with me?
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No, I... I couldn't do that.
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I got six kids, two more
wont make a difference.
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Yeah, I guess that's true.
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<i>20 dollars a week and
you don't have to worry.</i>
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You'd be helping me out too.
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I could talk to
my wife about it.
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Something to consider.
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Ah-ha...
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So, you'd never met Gertrude
Baniszewski before that day?
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No, Sir.
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But, you were willing to leave your
children, with a complete stranger?
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Well, like I said, huh...
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we got to talking and...
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she openly admitted, that she
would take care of the children...
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and treat them like
they were her own.
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<i>Okay! Here is 20 now...</i>
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and huh... you'll have the next
payment in a week, Thursday.
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I'll need that money.
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You will have it.
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Johnny, bring the box upstairs!
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Okay, sweetheart,
that's real nice.
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I sure don't want you go.
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The circuit will be down and
done, at the end of September.
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That's only 2 months.
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And I promise, I will be back,
and get you girls then.
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Okay, kids.
Goodbye, Jenny, Cookie.
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- You be good!
- Okay.
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Bye-bye.
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Bye.
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Bye, girls.
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You girls make sure you get
everything you need.
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Thank you.
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Well, come on!
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We'll help you unpack.
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Wait, I'll help you.
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Nothing to be nervous about.
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Everyone's really nice here.
I promise.
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Hey, Paula, get your cherry
popped, this summer?
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You sure didn't, Teddy,
not with a face like that.
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Hey, come on Paula,
you know he's just playing.
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So, why don't you
play with yourselves?
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Coy is okay, but Teddy is
a goddamn delinquent.
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Paula!
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Those guys, they're always
messing with somebody.
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I'm sure, she will be okay.
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- You live with Paula and them?
- Yeah, for a bid, I guess.
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Yeah, I saw you the other day.
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I live right around the corner,
I'm Ricky Hobbs.
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Sylvia.
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Hey, there's a football game
this weekend...
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if you'd be interested in that at all.
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Oh, I don't like that much football.
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Sylvia, come on!
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Good bye!
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It's me!
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Hope, you brought my money.
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Nice to see you too.
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Came by to see my baby.
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Hi!
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Hey!
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Leave him!
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Well, I got my call-up papers.
I have to go to boot-camp soon.
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Put him back in.
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It took me all day to quiet him.
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- Not in front of the baby!
- Why? He don't care.
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I do!
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Listen, I'll be getting
a paycheck.
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So, you'll be getting
payments regularly.
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Who's gonna take care of you?
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Well, actually I was wondering...
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if I could borrow a few dollars...
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so I could visit my brother
in Lebanon, before I leave.
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If I had the money,
I'd give it to you.
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I saw your new boarders.
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Don't tell me, you're
doing that for charity.
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I had to take them in,
because of you.
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I ain't paying for
another man's kids.
259
00:14:28,309 --> 00:14:30,162
You ain't paying for no...
260
00:14:34,429 --> 00:14:36,567
I'm sorry, Gertie.
261
00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:38,848
I'm sorry.
262
00:14:46,509 --> 00:14:49,028
So, how was the
first day at school?
263
00:14:49,029 --> 00:14:51,548
Well, I made
a couple friends.
264
00:14:51,549 --> 00:14:55,148
See, we're not such bad people,
here on the Southside.
265
00:14:55,149 --> 00:14:58,028
Can you, pick up the kids
and bring'm home?
266
00:14:58,029 --> 00:14:59,588
There's something I have
to take care of.
267
00:14:59,589 --> 00:15:00,788
Yeah, is everything alright?
268
00:15:00,789 --> 00:15:03,468
Just tell mama, I picked up
an extra shift at work.
269
00:15:03,469 --> 00:15:05,163
Sure.
270
00:15:06,268 --> 00:15:09,487
You know, Paula is looking more
and more like you everyday.
271
00:15:10,348 --> 00:15:12,327
Lucky girl.
272
00:15:13,628 --> 00:15:16,005
Should watch her, though.
273
00:15:16,348 --> 00:15:19,157
She's been hanging out
with Bradley again.
274
00:15:19,908 --> 00:15:22,227
I hate to think, what'll happen.
275
00:15:22,228 --> 00:15:24,878
His wife's got a bad temper.
276
00:15:32,548 --> 00:15:35,357
You think, that I can
get that money?
277
00:15:39,668 --> 00:15:42,557
<i>There's a 20 in the top drawer.</i>
278
00:16:01,707 --> 00:16:03,786
Where do you live Mrs. Doyle?
279
00:16:03,787 --> 00:16:05,866
3848 East New York.
280
00:16:05,867 --> 00:16:08,146
You can almost reach out of
your dining room window...
281
00:16:08,147 --> 00:16:10,106
and touch Baniszewski's
kitchen, can't you?
282
00:16:10,107 --> 00:16:11,946
It's not that close.
283
00:16:11,947 --> 00:16:13,906
Because of the experience,
that you saw...
284
00:16:13,907 --> 00:16:16,106
Mrs. Baniszewski having there.
285
00:16:16,107 --> 00:16:19,167
Did you develop any bias, or
prejudice against her?
286
00:16:19,626 --> 00:16:21,905
No, I felt sorry for the lady.
287
00:16:21,906 --> 00:16:24,825
I felt she was a hard working
woman, with all them kids.
288
00:16:24,826 --> 00:16:28,398
Ever entertain any guilt feelings,
or animosity towards her?
289
00:16:28,906 --> 00:16:31,145
Oh, no, I can't judge her.
290
00:16:31,146 --> 00:16:33,204
I beg your pardon?
291
00:16:33,426 --> 00:16:35,917
I can't judge her.
292
00:16:37,946 --> 00:16:41,040
- Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia?
- Sure.
293
00:16:42,426 --> 00:16:44,505
Bless this food we eat,
and release...
294
00:16:44,506 --> 00:16:46,625
us from our sins, amen.
295
00:16:46,626 --> 00:16:48,559
Amen!
296
00:16:52,306 --> 00:16:54,825
Somebody get out there,
and feed that dog!
297
00:16:54,826 --> 00:16:56,725
Yeah, mama.
298
00:17:01,105 --> 00:17:02,664
Sorry, I'm late.
299
00:17:02,665 --> 00:17:04,484
Where you been?
300
00:17:04,785 --> 00:17:07,879
I took up the shift
for Ellen.
301
00:17:09,225 --> 00:17:11,504
I told you, I didn't want you
to see that boy anymore.
302
00:17:11,505 --> 00:17:13,424
- and I mean it.
- I didn't.
303
00:17:13,425 --> 00:17:15,836
Don't lie to me, Paula.
304
00:17:16,065 --> 00:17:18,920
What? Was he here?
Did Andy say something?
305
00:17:19,225 --> 00:17:21,344
- That's none of your business.
- Yeah, you just don't want...
306
00:17:21,345 --> 00:17:24,040
me to make the same
mistakes, you've made.
307
00:17:32,305 --> 00:17:34,874
I said, feed that dog!
308
00:17:38,784 --> 00:17:41,161
Johnny, feed the dog!
309
00:17:52,704 --> 00:17:54,956
What's wrong, Paula?
310
00:17:56,824 --> 00:17:59,554
I've got problems, Sylvia.
311
00:18:00,264 --> 00:18:02,641
Big problems.
312
00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:07,876
With Bradley?
313
00:18:12,463 --> 00:18:15,557
I went to the doctor, today.
314
00:18:17,503 --> 00:18:19,834
I'm pregnant.
315
00:18:25,703 --> 00:18:28,182
You know the guy is married,
316
00:18:28,183 --> 00:18:30,062
I know, he wouldn't want a baby.
317
00:18:30,063 --> 00:18:33,202
I don't know a
damn thing to do.
318
00:18:35,703 --> 00:18:38,239
Well, you... you gotta tell him.
319
00:18:38,463 --> 00:18:40,601
I can't.
320
00:18:41,103 --> 00:18:43,480
Well, I think you gotta.
321
00:18:45,143 --> 00:18:49,920
You gotta promise me, that you
wont say anything to anybody.
322
00:18:50,942 --> 00:18:55,321
Not a word, until I figure out
what I'm gonna do, okay?
323
00:18:57,022 --> 00:18:59,319
Yeah, I promise.
324
00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,960
It's gonna be okay.
325
00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:07,073
Mama?
326
00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:14,868
Mama!
327
00:20:25,060 --> 00:20:27,357
I want you all, upstairs!
328
00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:30,593
Come on.
329
00:20:31,180 --> 00:20:33,272
Except for you two!
330
00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,470
I want you down in the basement!
331
00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:55,258
Your daddy’s' check
didn't arrive today.
332
00:20:55,259 --> 00:20:57,556
Oh, it's probably just late.
333
00:20:57,859 --> 00:21:01,298
I know my Mama, she wouldn't
let him forget.
334
00:21:01,299 --> 00:21:03,118
You know what I think?
335
00:21:03,139 --> 00:21:07,757
I just took care of you two,
for two weeks... for nothing.
336
00:21:08,859 --> 00:21:11,458
I think your mama and daddy...
337
00:21:11,459 --> 00:21:13,756
left you here for good.
338
00:21:13,899 --> 00:21:15,698
They wouldn't do that.
339
00:21:15,699 --> 00:21:17,917
Keep your mouth shut!
340
00:21:22,978 --> 00:21:25,070
Lean over those.
341
00:21:25,658 --> 00:21:27,955
Go on, lean over.
342
00:21:43,178 --> 00:21:45,737
- No!
- Come on! Come on.
343
00:21:45,738 --> 00:21:47,977
- Oh, no!
- Get up!
344
00:21:47,978 --> 00:21:49,557
- Gertie!
- Come on!
345
00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:52,910
- No, let go of me!
- Let me get hers.
346
00:22:13,497 --> 00:22:15,396
Okay.
347
00:22:16,137 --> 00:22:17,911
Come on.
348
00:22:25,497 --> 00:22:27,476
Okay.
349
00:22:33,137 --> 00:22:35,706
I need that money.
350
00:22:52,816 --> 00:22:55,227
Come on, Jennie...
351
00:22:57,656 --> 00:23:01,592
It's not like, we never
had a spanking before.
352
00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:07,386
You know, that check's gonna
come tomorrow, I swear.
353
00:23:24,735 --> 00:23:26,974
- Johnny!
- What? Give me the thing back!
354
00:23:26,975 --> 00:23:28,094
Stop that!
355
00:23:28,095 --> 00:23:29,934
Stop, hurting me!
356
00:23:29,935 --> 00:23:32,494
I'm 15, I should be able to come.
357
00:23:32,495 --> 00:23:35,429
Well, somebody's gotta play
catch with the little ones.
358
00:23:36,095 --> 00:23:39,109
I wonder if Bradley
is gonna be there.
359
00:23:40,815 --> 00:23:42,987
<i>Freedom was in jeopardy...</i>
360
00:23:43,415 --> 00:23:46,574
<i>when the struggling
people had been brought...</i>
361
00:23:46,575 --> 00:23:50,547
<i>almost to their knees,
by aggression.</i>
362
00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:55,013
<i>When William Westmoreland,
was called to urgent duty.</i>
363
00:23:55,014 --> 00:23:57,826
<i>$20.00.
Pay to: Gertrude Baniszewski</i>
364
00:23:57,827 --> 00:24:00,133
<i>His mission was to deny
aggression, it's conquest.</i>
365
00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:02,493
Please give us a call.
Love, Mom and Dad.
366
00:24:02,494 --> 00:24:06,225
<i>It was a mission, simple
enough to stake.</i>
367
00:24:06,574 --> 00:24:09,304
<i>But to execute that mission...</i>
368
00:24:09,374 --> 00:24:11,813
<i>he had to fight the most
complex war...</i>
369
00:24:11,814 --> 00:24:13,533
<i>in all American history.</i>
370
00:24:13,534 --> 00:24:15,573
What're you gonna see tonight,
Stephanie?
371
00:24:15,574 --> 00:24:17,493
Well, they ain't gonna
show a movie, Marie.
372
00:24:17,494 --> 00:24:19,053
The only thing she'll be seeing...
373
00:24:19,054 --> 00:24:21,173
is Coys hand, while
she's pushing him away.
374
00:24:21,174 --> 00:24:22,973
I might not be pushing to hard.
375
00:24:22,974 --> 00:24:24,813
Yeah, yeah, princess Grace...
376
00:24:24,814 --> 00:24:26,652
you'd scream, if he
breads on your blouse.
377
00:24:26,653 --> 00:24:28,732
That's not true, Paula,
you know it.
378
00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:31,064
Don't give Sylvia
the wrong idea, now.
379
00:24:31,373 --> 00:24:33,784
Look, I shot his eye out.
380
00:24:33,813 --> 00:24:35,052
Why'd you do that?
381
00:24:35,053 --> 00:24:36,906
Johnny! Get outta here!
382
00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:39,052
You're dead!
383
00:24:39,053 --> 00:24:41,032
That's insane.
384
00:24:42,173 --> 00:24:44,772
Listen, God! This is crap!
385
00:24:44,773 --> 00:24:48,332
There is nothing ever to do,
in this shit-hole town.
386
00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,052
It ain't that bad, Teddy.
387
00:24:50,053 --> 00:24:51,827
Yeah, it is.
388
00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:55,421
Howdy!
389
00:24:59,333 --> 00:25:02,347
You know?
Don't know about you...
390
00:25:02,613 --> 00:25:04,811
but, I'm staying up,
all night, tonight.
391
00:25:04,812 --> 00:25:07,611
He's parents ain't
gonna like that.
392
00:25:07,612 --> 00:25:09,531
They don't give a shit.
393
00:25:09,532 --> 00:25:11,147
Do they?
394
00:25:11,612 --> 00:25:14,771
- You like it here?
- Yeah, it's really nice.
395
00:25:14,772 --> 00:25:16,671
He's here.
396
00:25:16,972 --> 00:25:18,611
I'll be right back.
397
00:25:18,612 --> 00:25:20,511
Maybe you shouldn't.
398
00:25:26,572 --> 00:25:28,061
Hey!
399
00:25:28,132 --> 00:25:29,371
Ricky.
400
00:25:29,372 --> 00:25:31,451
You shouldn't sneak
up on girls like that.
401
00:25:31,452 --> 00:25:33,011
I'm sorry.
402
00:25:33,012 --> 00:25:36,251
Hey, the nursery is
around the corner.
403
00:25:36,252 --> 00:25:38,851
You might wanna get back,
before they miss you.
404
00:25:38,852 --> 00:25:40,370
I brought some favors.
405
00:25:40,371 --> 00:25:42,190
Give me some of that!
406
00:25:46,171 --> 00:25:47,610
What're you doing here?
407
00:25:47,611 --> 00:25:50,386
- I wanted to see you.
- We already talked about this.
408
00:25:51,131 --> 00:25:54,623
I just be right back.
409
00:25:55,691 --> 00:25:57,170
Good!
410
00:25:57,171 --> 00:25:59,690
I already told you, my wife is
back from her cousins house.
411
00:25:59,691 --> 00:26:01,624
So that's it. Okay?
412
00:26:01,851 --> 00:26:05,582
Now, be a good girl,
and go play with your friends.
413
00:26:07,411 --> 00:26:10,050
You know, my Mama's
been calling you trash.
414
00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:12,030
I'm starting to believe her.
415
00:26:12,651 --> 00:26:16,130
You should listen to your
mother, Paula, she knows best.
416
00:26:16,131 --> 00:26:18,169
You know, you don't mean that.
417
00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:19,289
Lay off me!
418
00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:20,529
Get off me!
419
00:26:20,530 --> 00:26:22,463
- No!
- Just a kiss.
420
00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:25,929
- Is this what you want, huh?
- Stop it! Stop!
421
00:26:25,930 --> 00:26:27,967
- Hey! Stop!
- Get the hell outta here!
422
00:26:27,968 --> 00:26:29,867
It's private fool, no invitation.
423
00:26:30,170 --> 00:26:31,785
She is pregnant!
424
00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:42,180
Don't try to pull that shit on me!
You know, it ain't true.
425
00:26:42,850 --> 00:26:44,749
There ain't no way.
426
00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:48,708
Stay away.
427
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:52,289
Paula, I'm so sorry.
I just wanted to...
428
00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:56,099
- You're gonna pay for this!
- I... Paula, I just...
429
00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:02,248
Is everything okay?
430
00:27:02,249 --> 00:27:04,660
Would you quit following me!
431
00:27:16,049 --> 00:27:17,664
Paula?
432
00:27:19,089 --> 00:27:20,728
Honey, you're crying!
433
00:27:20,729 --> 00:27:22,947
- Mom!
- What's wrong?
434
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:26,488
I ain't talking to him anymore.
435
00:27:26,489 --> 00:27:31,107
Oh, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl, yes.
436
00:27:32,408 --> 00:27:35,047
You know, we're gonna find
you a good man, Honey.
437
00:27:35,048 --> 00:27:37,778
Not like Andy, or your daddy.
438
00:27:38,808 --> 00:27:41,299
But Sylvia said...
439
00:27:41,608 --> 00:27:43,382
What?
440
00:27:46,568 --> 00:27:50,344
She telling horrible lies,
about me.
441
00:27:53,288 --> 00:27:55,619
What kind of lies?
442
00:28:00,328 --> 00:28:03,706
She's telling everyone,
that I'm a slut.
443
00:28:06,448 --> 00:28:08,407
You should have seen those
boys when they heard...
444
00:28:08,408 --> 00:28:11,023
that I was a slut.
445
00:28:11,847 --> 00:28:14,178
Sylvia said that?.
446
00:28:21,887 --> 00:28:24,025
Don't worry, Baby.
447
00:28:24,967 --> 00:28:27,185
Don't worry.
448
00:28:32,887 --> 00:28:37,246
Did you ever hear Sylvia, use
any vanity or vulgar language?
449
00:28:37,247 --> 00:28:38,366
No, Sir.
450
00:28:38,367 --> 00:28:42,846
Do you know how often Sylvia went
to Sunday school or church?
451
00:28:42,847 --> 00:28:44,526
She'd go every time we went.
452
00:28:44,527 --> 00:28:47,046
- Does Sylvia have a bible?
- yes.
453
00:28:47,047 --> 00:28:49,485
Did she dress up nice and clean?
454
00:28:49,486 --> 00:28:50,925
Yes, Sir.
455
00:28:50,926 --> 00:28:55,339
As Mathew said:
"Enter by the narrow gate".
456
00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:58,485
For the gate is wide and
the way is easy...
457
00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:01,085
that leads to destruction...
458
00:29:01,086 --> 00:29:04,703
and those who enter by it,
are many.
459
00:29:05,966 --> 00:29:09,885
When the gate is narrow
and the way is hard...
460
00:29:09,886 --> 00:29:11,965
that leads to life...
461
00:29:11,966 --> 00:29:16,141
and those who find it, are few.
462
00:29:32,085 --> 00:29:34,735
Jennie, come sit with me!
463
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:57,139
We gotta go upstairs and change.
464
00:29:58,205 --> 00:30:00,855
I want you all down here.
465
00:30:01,085 --> 00:30:03,176
Family-meeting.
466
00:30:05,284 --> 00:30:07,615
It's a lesson for all of you.
467
00:30:23,124 --> 00:30:25,774
You need to apologize to Paula.
468
00:30:32,484 --> 00:30:33,603
But Gertie, I... I don't know...
469
00:30:33,604 --> 00:30:35,803
I want you to apologize.
470
00:30:35,804 --> 00:30:37,896
What she'd done, mama?
471
00:30:38,164 --> 00:30:41,162
She's been spreading lies
about your sister.
472
00:30:41,163 --> 00:30:42,857
I...
473
00:30:49,683 --> 00:30:51,582
I'm sorry.
474
00:30:52,843 --> 00:30:56,482
Paula, you have the right,
to get even.
475
00:30:56,483 --> 00:30:58,541
What you wanna do?
476
00:30:59,083 --> 00:31:01,255
I want you to punish her, mama.
477
00:31:03,683 --> 00:31:05,682
You have to learn to fight
your own battles, baby.
478
00:31:05,683 --> 00:31:08,060
- Get over there.
- Johnny, grab her arms.
479
00:31:08,603 --> 00:31:10,162
I said I was sorry.
480
00:31:10,163 --> 00:31:11,982
I don't care what you said.
481
00:31:14,563 --> 00:31:17,292
Go on, she's got it coming.
482
00:31:23,282 --> 00:31:24,737
Let her go!
483
00:31:25,442 --> 00:31:27,580
I'm sure, she
can defend herself.
484
00:31:34,642 --> 00:31:36,441
I am not.
485
00:31:36,442 --> 00:31:38,081
I will not.
486
00:31:38,082 --> 00:31:40,459
- I am not.
- She is not!
487
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,295
Damn it!
488
00:31:44,762 --> 00:31:46,900
Enough, that's okay!
489
00:31:49,602 --> 00:31:50,721
Get up.
490
00:31:50,722 --> 00:31:52,416
Get up! Get up!
491
00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:58,139
She's learned her lesson.
492
00:31:58,441 --> 00:32:01,216
That's what happens
when you tell lies.
493
00:32:02,361 --> 00:32:04,180
Go on!
494
00:32:14,281 --> 00:32:16,180
You too, get!
495
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,418
Are you awake?
496
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,858
You're okay?
497
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,570
Did you say your prayers yet?
498
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,850
How about mamas favorite psalm?
499
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,896
Turn on to me, and be
gracious to me, dear lord.
500
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,798
for I am lonely and affected.
501
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,518
Release the chalice of my heart...
502
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,931
and bring me out
of my distresses!
503
00:33:20,639 --> 00:33:23,778
Consider how many are my foes...
504
00:33:24,199 --> 00:33:25,318
Thank you.
505
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,174
I will put my fate in thee...
506
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:33,137
make my life in to a better me.
507
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,047
I will not think of the shame.
508
00:33:37,879 --> 00:33:40,529
I take refuge in thee!
509
00:33:42,919 --> 00:33:46,694
and take thee in greatness be sure.
510
00:33:49,878 --> 00:33:52,414
Amen.
511
00:34:09,198 --> 00:34:11,597
- I hear, your sister's pregnant.
- I see you.
512
00:34:11,598 --> 00:34:14,931
- Who's the guy?
- You know, that's not funny.
513
00:34:15,518 --> 00:34:17,815
I didn't say it.
514
00:34:18,958 --> 00:34:21,255
A lotta people are talking.
515
00:34:44,157 --> 00:34:46,170
Why aren't you in school?
516
00:34:56,517 --> 00:34:58,735
You, huh... doing okay?
517
00:35:00,437 --> 00:35:01,595
Yeah.
518
00:35:01,596 --> 00:35:03,893
It's, huh... Sylvia, right?
519
00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:05,730
Yeah.
520
00:35:06,756 --> 00:35:08,735
Eric.
521
00:35:08,796 --> 00:35:10,955
I, huh... I've
seen you at church.
522
00:35:10,956 --> 00:35:13,048
Yeah, that's me.
523
00:35:13,556 --> 00:35:15,967
You're going to the, huh...
pick-nick, next Saturday?
524
00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,355
Well, huh... I hope so.
525
00:35:19,356 --> 00:35:20,475
Okay.
526
00:35:20,476 --> 00:35:22,204
Maybe I'll see you there.
527
00:35:26,836 --> 00:35:28,610
Huh... I'm gonna go.
528
00:35:28,876 --> 00:35:30,695
Okay.
529
00:35:33,876 --> 00:35:36,955
Why was Mama so upset
about the other day?
530
00:35:36,956 --> 00:35:38,434
You haven't heard?
531
00:35:38,435 --> 00:35:40,674
I told everyone,
that Paula was a slut.
532
00:35:40,675 --> 00:35:43,086
That's not true, is it?
533
00:35:44,435 --> 00:35:47,654
There's some worse rumors
going around, about her.
534
00:35:50,835 --> 00:35:53,234
Do you think, she's pregnant?
535
00:35:53,235 --> 00:35:56,488
- What do you think?
- Yeah, she's real easy.
536
00:36:06,515 --> 00:36:08,334
Thanks.
537
00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:11,733
How's your mama?
538
00:36:12,195 --> 00:36:13,969
Okay.
539
00:36:14,315 --> 00:36:16,633
She still in the hospital?
540
00:36:16,634 --> 00:36:18,453
Yeah.
541
00:36:23,554 --> 00:36:25,772
Who's taking care of you?
542
00:36:28,354 --> 00:36:30,333
I am.
543
00:36:32,554 --> 00:36:35,284
Oh, you don't have a girlfriend?
544
00:36:37,074 --> 00:36:38,633
I don't know.
545
00:36:38,634 --> 00:36:40,833
- You don't know?
- No, I don't.
546
00:36:40,834 --> 00:36:43,052
And, huh... does she know?
547
00:36:46,874 --> 00:36:48,433
You wanna a sip?
548
00:36:48,434 --> 00:36:50,606
I ain't old enough.
549
00:36:52,954 --> 00:36:55,072
You ain't old enough
to smoke, either...
550
00:36:55,073 --> 00:36:57,404
and that's not stopping you.
551
00:37:02,113 --> 00:37:03,966
Jennie?
552
00:37:04,553 --> 00:37:07,487
I think, we should call mom and dad.
553
00:37:07,873 --> 00:37:09,992
How we're supposed to do that?
554
00:37:09,993 --> 00:37:12,961
Here, I found this in the trash.
555
00:37:18,953 --> 00:37:22,525
So, huh... how long's Sylvia
gonna be staying here?
556
00:37:23,113 --> 00:37:25,922
You got a crush on Sylvia?
557
00:37:33,032 --> 00:37:35,250
She is pretty.
558
00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:38,751
When I was in high-school...
559
00:37:38,752 --> 00:37:42,767
I was popular with the boys
too then, they all chased me.
560
00:37:44,752 --> 00:37:47,004
I believe you.
561
00:37:47,472 --> 00:37:49,166
Thank you.
562
00:37:50,392 --> 00:37:52,848
Oh, are you warm.
563
00:37:58,752 --> 00:38:01,391
What're you doing home
from school so early?
564
00:38:01,392 --> 00:38:04,201
I'm not feeling real good.
565
00:38:04,952 --> 00:38:06,680
Paula?
566
00:38:07,192 --> 00:38:09,249
You better go.
567
00:38:10,671 --> 00:38:12,670
Alright, you first.
568
00:38:12,671 --> 00:38:13,790
<i>Hello?</i>
569
00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:16,070
<i>- Mama?
- Oh, Honey!</i>
570
00:38:16,071 --> 00:38:17,990
I was afraid, you didn't
get our letter.
571
00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:20,150
Oh, mama, we miss you so much.
572
00:38:20,151 --> 00:38:21,790
<i>Oh, I miss you too, Honey.</i>
573
00:38:21,791 --> 00:38:23,910
I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks.
574
00:38:23,911 --> 00:38:26,367
So, how is everything going there?
575
00:38:27,591 --> 00:38:30,390
Oh, Gertrude's awful strict, mama.
576
00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:32,430
<i>We got in a whole
lotta trouble.</i>
577
00:38:32,431 --> 00:38:34,150
<i>What do you mean?
Did she punish you?</i>
578
00:38:34,151 --> 00:38:36,130
What's goin' on? These girls
been getting in trouble again?
579
00:38:36,131 --> 00:38:37,750
<i>- Let me talk to'm.
- She got mad...</i>
580
00:38:37,751 --> 00:38:39,110
because your check's late.
581
00:38:39,111 --> 00:38:40,270
Our check was late?
582
00:38:40,271 --> 00:38:41,670
<i>No, it wasn't.</i>
583
00:38:41,671 --> 00:38:43,390
<i>Let me talk to her.</i>
584
00:38:43,391 --> 00:38:44,846
Oh, we gotta go.
585
00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:46,309
<i>Sylvia?</i>
586
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:47,765
<i>Sylvia!</i>
587
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:51,523
They're coming, mama.
588
00:39:00,590 --> 00:39:03,285
Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia?
589
00:39:03,390 --> 00:39:04,789
No.
590
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:06,669
Nobody special.
591
00:39:06,670 --> 00:39:08,888
We miss our parents.
592
00:39:09,830 --> 00:39:11,809
Thank you, Jennie.
593
00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:14,549
Where'd you get the money to
make a long-distance call?
594
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:18,229
I was picking up empty bottles
at the Park, and traded'm in.
595
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:21,005
Honest, that's all she did.
596
00:39:35,669 --> 00:39:37,308
What she's gonna do?
597
00:39:37,309 --> 00:39:40,118
<i>What she always does, when
she catches you stealin'.</i>
598
00:39:41,029 --> 00:39:43,724
Are you gonna lie to me again?
599
00:39:43,749 --> 00:39:46,748
- No, Gertie, I...
- You gonna steal is this household?
600
00:39:46,749 --> 00:39:49,228
I didn't steal from you, Gertie.
601
00:39:49,229 --> 00:39:52,108
What you'd... call your parents,
and warn them, that...
602
00:39:52,109 --> 00:39:54,028
Gertie doesn't treat you right?
603
00:39:54,029 --> 00:39:55,803
No, ma'am.
604
00:39:57,029 --> 00:39:58,484
Alright.
605
00:40:00,988 --> 00:40:02,007
I'm sorry!
606
00:40:02,208 --> 00:40:03,643
I'm sorry!
607
00:40:10,028 --> 00:40:13,486
Okay, okay, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl.
608
00:40:17,948 --> 00:40:20,484
You wanna put some ice on that.
609
00:40:29,108 --> 00:40:32,467
Now, I think you stated, Marie,
that your sister Paula...
610
00:40:32,468 --> 00:40:36,307
you'd volunteered, that Paula
was jealous of Sylvia.
611
00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:39,586
Every time she looked at her,
her eyes looked like she hated her.
612
00:40:39,587 --> 00:40:42,442
Do you know, what the
word jealous means?
613
00:40:42,747 --> 00:40:44,946
Angry at someone.
614
00:40:44,947 --> 00:40:46,946
Can you assign a reason...
615
00:40:46,947 --> 00:40:51,360
to, why Paula might shoot Sylvia,
those angry, jealous glances?
616
00:40:53,027 --> 00:40:55,366
I guess, because Sylvia thought...
617
00:40:55,367 --> 00:40:58,426
she was so much more important,
than Paula was.
618
00:40:58,427 --> 00:41:01,066
Do you remember a time, when you
went to Bethany Baptist church...
619
00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:03,923
and had little sandwiches
and something to drink?
620
00:41:08,747 --> 00:41:12,106
I haven't seen you eat
up in a few weeks.
621
00:41:12,107 --> 00:41:15,837
Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach,
I've I had to work.
622
00:41:15,866 --> 00:41:18,038
What's with your arm, Paula?
623
00:41:18,826 --> 00:41:21,681
I lost my temper, with Sylvia.
624
00:41:21,986 --> 00:41:24,397
So, what'd you mean,
what happened?
625
00:41:26,586 --> 00:41:29,825
She's been doing some real
terrible things.
626
00:41:29,826 --> 00:41:31,679
I had to be real strict with her.
627
00:41:34,506 --> 00:41:36,724
Come on, its Ok.
It's Ok, come on.
628
00:41:37,146 --> 00:41:38,920
Don't take too much.
629
00:41:40,346 --> 00:41:41,985
Hey, what're you doing here?
630
00:41:41,986 --> 00:41:43,705
Came out, for the free food.
631
00:41:43,706 --> 00:41:45,525
And the women.
632
00:41:45,906 --> 00:41:48,465
I hope you don't want
any money, because...
633
00:41:48,466 --> 00:41:51,465
- So, John Senior has...
- I'm not here for money.
634
00:41:51,466 --> 00:41:53,184
Bradley send me.
635
00:41:53,185 --> 00:41:55,118
About Paula.
636
00:41:57,025 --> 00:42:00,323
- Did you say hi to the baby yet?
- Ah-ah.
637
00:42:03,025 --> 00:42:06,304
- Look, about yesterday...
- It's fine, it's fine.
638
00:42:06,305 --> 00:42:07,784
- Sylvia, I'm really...
- It's alright, don't worry about it.
639
00:42:07,785 --> 00:42:10,401
Mama, be back by the
end of this week.
640
00:42:18,305 --> 00:42:19,760
Hey.
641
00:42:20,225 --> 00:42:21,680
Hi.
642
00:42:22,465 --> 00:42:25,354
A couple of my friends, are eating
over there, you wanna join us?
643
00:42:26,025 --> 00:42:28,243
- Sure.
- Okay.
644
00:42:28,945 --> 00:42:30,663
Sylvia!
645
00:42:30,664 --> 00:42:33,280
- Just one second.
- No problem.
646
00:42:35,384 --> 00:42:39,354
Ricky, remember what I said
the other day about Paula?
647
00:42:39,384 --> 00:42:41,363
Did you say something?
648
00:42:41,464 --> 00:42:43,238
No.
649
00:42:43,384 --> 00:42:44,863
Because people are talking...
650
00:42:44,864 --> 00:42:47,023
and Stephanie and
Paula, are blaming me.
651
00:42:47,024 --> 00:42:49,719
No, no, I wouldn't do
something like that.
652
00:42:50,744 --> 00:42:52,518
I better go.
653
00:42:57,664 --> 00:43:00,280
I understand she's pregnant?
654
00:43:00,424 --> 00:43:02,183
He says, he's willing to
pay for the abortion.
655
00:43:02,184 --> 00:43:04,463
Be quiet, keep your
voice down, please!
656
00:43:04,464 --> 00:43:08,502
If Paula's willing to go through
with it, anything to keep it quiet.
657
00:43:08,503 --> 00:43:10,197
Here.
658
00:43:13,303 --> 00:43:16,382
There's not gonna be an abortion,
because she's not pregnant.
659
00:43:16,383 --> 00:43:17,782
He didn't even know about it.
660
00:43:17,783 --> 00:43:19,955
But, Sylvia is the one saying it.
661
00:43:20,983 --> 00:43:25,601
That girl's been nothing but trouble
since she came in to my house.
662
00:43:25,863 --> 00:43:29,514
If anyone is pregnant,
she is, I'll bet she is.
663
00:43:33,223 --> 00:43:34,997
I gotta go.
664
00:43:35,703 --> 00:43:37,192
Bye, Kenny.
665
00:43:37,543 --> 00:43:39,362
Bye.
666
00:43:41,463 --> 00:43:43,262
He'll be back, baby.
667
00:43:43,263 --> 00:43:44,831
Hey!
668
00:43:47,462 --> 00:43:50,795
Coming over to hang out
with the grown-ups?
669
00:43:56,422 --> 00:43:58,913
I've got some advice for you.
670
00:43:59,102 --> 00:44:01,781
I wouldn't come between
Gertie and her kids,
671
00:44:01,782 --> 00:44:03,781
She won't like it much.
672
00:44:03,782 --> 00:44:05,317
Alright.
673
00:44:11,302 --> 00:44:12,791
You okay, Gertie?
674
00:44:14,582 --> 00:44:16,913
Yeah, I'm fine.
675
00:44:18,662 --> 00:44:22,392
A bunch of us, gonna cruise the
circle, you wanna come with?
676
00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:26,753
Sure, I probably should
ask Gertie first.
677
00:44:27,341 --> 00:44:29,240
You sure?
678
00:44:30,581 --> 00:44:33,072
Come on, let's get outta here!
679
00:44:38,901 --> 00:44:41,420
Looks like Sylvia's going
off with them boys.
680
00:44:41,421 --> 00:44:44,220
You sound surprised,
Ricky Hobbs.
681
00:44:44,221 --> 00:44:46,552
You shouldn't be.
682
00:44:48,061 --> 00:44:50,153
Let me do that!
683
00:44:52,621 --> 00:44:54,998
You can try, Patty.
684
00:44:58,381 --> 00:45:01,189
You sure you can't come,
to the Drive-in with us?
685
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:05,758
No, I'm... I'm late as it is.
686
00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:08,075
Let's go!
687
00:45:11,380 --> 00:45:14,155
Well, I guess, I'll see you
next Sunday then.
688
00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:28,798
Shut that door.
689
00:45:40,739 --> 00:45:44,197
I dought, I thought you a lesson.
690
00:45:48,299 --> 00:45:50,938
I don't understand.
691
00:45:50,939 --> 00:45:55,398
Apparently, you've been telling
more lies about my daughter.
692
00:45:57,579 --> 00:45:59,797
I haven't told any lies.
693
00:46:04,219 --> 00:46:07,187
- And then you flirt with, Andy.
- I didn't.
694
00:46:07,419 --> 00:46:09,830
I saw you!
695
00:46:14,618 --> 00:46:19,794
No matter what you want,
you just... you just take it.
696
00:46:20,618 --> 00:46:24,554
No, Gertie, we were just talking.
697
00:46:26,018 --> 00:46:28,156
That's all.
698
00:46:33,418 --> 00:46:35,097
Who's in charge here?
699
00:46:35,098 --> 00:46:36,657
You are, mama.
700
00:46:36,658 --> 00:46:38,671
That's right, Baby.
701
00:46:47,818 --> 00:46:51,628
Paula, told me about those
boys in California.
702
00:46:52,017 --> 00:46:55,987
Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about
all those boys in California?
703
00:46:57,537 --> 00:46:59,516
No.
704
00:47:01,137 --> 00:47:02,696
Well' if you won't listen to me...
705
00:47:02,697 --> 00:47:04,869
maybe I can get you to
listen to your sister.
706
00:47:05,097 --> 00:47:08,296
Keep her from making
those mistakes.
707
00:47:08,297 --> 00:47:09,752
Jennie...
708
00:47:09,857 --> 00:47:12,666
do you wanna be like your sister?
709
00:47:15,297 --> 00:47:16,866
No, ma'am.
710
00:47:18,537 --> 00:47:20,675
That's a good girl.
711
00:47:52,496 --> 00:47:55,135
Patty, then what did
Mrs. Baniszewski do?
712
00:47:55,136 --> 00:47:57,015
She handed her a bottle...
713
00:47:57,016 --> 00:47:59,375
and told her to pull all her skirt.
714
00:47:59,376 --> 00:48:01,195
And then?
715
00:48:01,216 --> 00:48:04,913
And then, she said
to put it up her.
716
00:48:06,815 --> 00:48:10,830
Did Sylvia say anything, when
Mrs. Baniszewski ask her to do this?
717
00:48:11,655 --> 00:48:13,694
All she said was...
718
00:48:13,695 --> 00:48:15,334
I can't.
719
00:48:15,335 --> 00:48:17,414
What did Mrs. Baniszewski say?
720
00:48:17,415 --> 00:48:18,534
She said...
721
00:48:18,535 --> 00:48:20,694
Come on, you can do
better than that!
722
00:48:20,695 --> 00:48:22,833
And what did Sylvia do?
723
00:48:22,975 --> 00:48:25,306
What Gertie told her to.
724
00:48:26,895 --> 00:48:29,067
What the hell is going on?
725
00:48:29,535 --> 00:48:31,454
Somebody, clean up the mess!
726
00:48:31,455 --> 00:48:33,294
Sylvia, get upstairs!
727
00:48:33,295 --> 00:48:35,228
Coy, get her up there!
728
00:48:38,775 --> 00:48:39,894
Wait!
729
00:48:39,895 --> 00:48:42,894
I will not have her in the
same room with my daughter's.
730
00:48:42,895 --> 00:48:44,413
Take her to the basement!
731
00:48:44,414 --> 00:48:46,293
Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
732
00:48:46,294 --> 00:48:49,831
- Open the door, Johnny!
- I'm sorry, Gertie! I'm sorry!
733
00:48:50,254 --> 00:48:52,472
Get her outta here!
734
00:48:52,574 --> 00:48:54,893
No! Noooo...
735
00:48:54,894 --> 00:48:57,669
It's best to stay
out of there, I think?
736
00:48:58,094 --> 00:49:01,693
Don't worry, Jennie,
Mama's just teaching her.
737
00:49:01,694 --> 00:49:05,425
- She won't go down.
- I don't care! Just push her!
738
00:50:01,372 --> 00:50:03,191
Hey, Marie!
739
00:50:34,492 --> 00:50:36,310
Sylvia.
740
00:50:37,192 --> 00:50:39,010
Sylvia.
741
00:50:43,811 --> 00:50:46,108
I'm sorry, Sylvia.
742
00:50:47,531 --> 00:50:49,350
But, I'm to scared.
743
00:50:50,251 --> 00:50:53,743
I've tried talking,
with Gertie, but...
744
00:50:57,251 --> 00:51:01,824
She... she said,
you can have your bible.
745
00:51:05,131 --> 00:51:06,825
Jennie.
746
00:51:07,291 --> 00:51:09,747
Mama wants you upstairs.
747
00:51:09,771 --> 00:51:11,863
Family-meeting.
748
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:15,668
I'll do what I can.
749
00:51:16,890 --> 00:51:18,869
She said now.
750
00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:42,409
Stop hitting me!
751
00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:44,138
Give me that!
752
00:51:44,570 --> 00:51:47,425
Johnny, get me my medicine, please.
753
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:52,499
Oh, this area here,
it's not good for my health.
754
00:51:52,929 --> 00:51:54,608
Maybe we can move.
755
00:51:54,609 --> 00:51:56,608
Where would we move to, Shirley?
756
00:51:56,609 --> 00:51:58,288
I don't know.
757
00:51:58,289 --> 00:52:00,347
I don't wanna move.
758
00:52:05,889 --> 00:52:08,728
I had a call with
your parents today.
759
00:52:08,729 --> 00:52:10,608
Are they coming for us?
760
00:52:10,609 --> 00:52:12,768
Well, they picked up the
Florida Labor Day circuit...
761
00:52:12,769 --> 00:52:16,147
so, they wont be here for you,
until the end of November, now.
762
00:52:16,889 --> 00:52:19,288
Their checks are coming
in regular, though.
763
00:52:19,289 --> 00:52:21,968
My ironing slowed down...
764
00:52:21,969 --> 00:52:23,568
quite a bit.
765
00:52:23,569 --> 00:52:26,968
So, we all have to work
together, as a family.
766
00:52:26,969 --> 00:52:30,727
Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's
house, mama, if that'll help.
767
00:52:30,728 --> 00:52:31,967
Coy?
768
00:52:31,968 --> 00:52:33,527
Mama, wont mind.
769
00:52:33,528 --> 00:52:35,447
She likes Stephanie a lot.
770
00:52:35,448 --> 00:52:37,267
Thank you.
771
00:52:39,448 --> 00:52:41,347
Paula...
772
00:52:41,928 --> 00:52:45,167
Baby, you gonna have to take
up more shift's at work.
773
00:52:45,168 --> 00:52:47,499
Maybe quit Tech for a while.
774
00:52:49,008 --> 00:52:51,464
What about Stephanie?
775
00:52:51,528 --> 00:52:54,407
- Why she have to go to school?
- Because she's smarter than you.
776
00:52:54,408 --> 00:52:56,727
- Shut up, Johnny!
- I'm smarter than you!
777
00:52:56,728 --> 00:52:58,647
- I'm smarter than the both of you!
- Give me my Teddy!
778
00:52:58,648 --> 00:52:59,767
Stop it!
779
00:52:59,768 --> 00:53:01,047
Stop it!
780
00:53:01,048 --> 00:53:02,981
You all, stop it!
781
00:53:05,447 --> 00:53:08,206
That's another thing we have
to work on around here.
782
00:53:08,207 --> 00:53:11,426
We all have to learn
to get along better.
783
00:53:12,367 --> 00:53:16,621
How long is Sylvia,
down in the basement?
784
00:53:18,887 --> 00:53:21,901
Until she learns her lesson.
785
00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:25,702
Mama...
786
00:53:28,207 --> 00:53:30,618
She needs to be punished, Paula.
787
00:53:33,567 --> 00:53:35,341
Yes, Mama.
788
00:53:37,687 --> 00:53:40,223
Now, if anybody asks...
789
00:53:40,367 --> 00:53:44,461
Sylvia... had to go to juvenile.
790
00:53:49,446 --> 00:53:51,379
You got that, Jennie?
791
00:53:57,926 --> 00:53:59,859
Okay.
792
00:54:00,606 --> 00:54:02,380
That's it.
793
00:54:27,245 --> 00:54:29,258
Are you sleeping?
794
00:54:35,205 --> 00:54:37,218
You okay?
795
00:54:40,445 --> 00:54:42,378
Yes.
796
00:54:43,765 --> 00:54:46,335
It's only gonna be for a little while.
797
00:54:57,444 --> 00:55:00,983
Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia,
talk back to any of those people...
798
00:55:00,984 --> 00:55:02,643
when these things were
being done to her?
799
00:55:02,644 --> 00:55:04,163
No, I never.
800
00:55:04,164 --> 00:55:07,123
When it first started did
she say anything then?
801
00:55:07,124 --> 00:55:10,943
No, except she would say,
I'm sorry, or something like that,
802
00:55:10,944 --> 00:55:13,377
as if she did something wrong, but...
803
00:55:13,564 --> 00:55:16,180
she never did anything wrong.
804
00:55:16,604 --> 00:55:21,256
Did you yourself, on any of these
occasions, do anything to Sylvia?
805
00:55:21,404 --> 00:55:23,860
I just did what I was told.
806
00:55:26,804 --> 00:55:29,103
Now then, in the month of
September did you see she was an influx
807
00:55:29,104 --> 00:55:31,257
anyone else, do anything to Sylvia?
808
00:56:12,242 --> 00:56:14,539
See, I told you so.
809
00:56:18,202 --> 00:56:19,401
Damn.
810
00:56:19,402 --> 00:56:20,561
What'd she do?
811
00:56:20,562 --> 00:56:21,681
She was real bad.
812
00:56:21,682 --> 00:56:22,801
She's dirty.
813
00:56:22,802 --> 00:56:24,655
Mama said, she was a slut.
814
00:56:27,522 --> 00:56:28,641
Johnny!
815
00:56:28,642 --> 00:56:29,841
Don't worry about it.
816
00:56:29,842 --> 00:56:31,855
She's used to it.
817
00:56:33,122 --> 00:56:35,021
Watch this!
818
00:56:41,402 --> 00:56:42,521
Neat, huh?
819
00:56:42,522 --> 00:56:44,001
You just burn her like that?
820
00:56:44,002 --> 00:56:45,761
Yeah, you can too.
821
00:56:45,762 --> 00:56:47,361
- I don't want to.
- What? You're chicken?.
822
00:56:47,362 --> 00:56:48,481
It's OK.
823
00:56:48,482 --> 00:56:50,699
Mama, said you can.
824
00:57:18,801 --> 00:57:23,040
Did you see Sally, take cigarettes,
and actually burn Sylvia with them?
825
00:57:23,041 --> 00:57:25,240
- Yes.
- How many times?
826
00:57:25,241 --> 00:57:27,571
She would do it, every
time she came over.
827
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,399
How many times did that happened?
828
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,128
Every day.
829
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,959
Did you go to 3850 East New York St...
830
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,079
during the months of
September and October?
831
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,559
Yes, Sir.
832
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,439
We go most days after school.
833
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,599
And did you see Sylvia Likens,
in the basement of that house?
834
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,039
Yes, Sir.
835
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,039
Did you do anything
at all to help her?
836
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,199
No, Sir.
837
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,009
What were the other children,
be doing around the house?
838
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,855
Playing around.
839
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,219
Did you ever tell some of the other
kids that they should come over...
840
00:57:55,220 --> 00:57:58,119
to the house, because everyone
was having fun with Sylvia?
841
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,479
I just thought,
we were punishing her.
842
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,097
Where was John standing,
when he was washing her down.
843
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:05,238
Right in front of her.
844
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:07,118
What part of her body
was he spraying?
845
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,318
- All over.
- Who's hose was he using?
846
00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:11,078
It was my hose, Sir.
847
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:14,318
Sally, did you ever see some of the
other neighborhood kids, hurt Sylvia?
848
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:15,774
Yes.
849
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:19,733
Did you tell anybody,
you saw anything?
850
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,297
Not really.
851
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:27,128
So, you told no one, what was happening
at the Baniszewski's house?
852
00:58:27,879 --> 00:58:29,478
Well, I told my father...
853
00:58:29,479 --> 00:58:32,438
Gertrude gave Sylvia,
an awful whipping.
854
00:58:32,439 --> 00:58:34,878
But, he just told me, I shouldn't
do whatever she did...
855
00:58:34,879 --> 00:58:37,449
or I get the same.
856
00:58:38,399 --> 00:58:40,118
Shirley, was your mother
ever present...
857
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:42,557
while some of the other people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?
858
00:58:42,558 --> 00:58:44,237
Yes, she was.
859
00:58:44,238 --> 00:58:46,137
How many times?
860
00:58:46,758 --> 00:58:48,997
She was there, just
about all the time.
861
00:58:48,998 --> 00:58:53,047
And what did she say when people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?
862
00:58:53,878 --> 00:58:55,333
Nothing.
863
00:59:01,398 --> 00:59:04,287
Did anyone order you, to hit Sylvia?
864
00:59:04,718 --> 00:59:06,237
No, Sir.
865
00:59:06,238 --> 00:59:08,837
- Or, tie her up?
- No, Sir.
866
00:59:08,838 --> 00:59:10,637
- Or, wash her down?
- No, Sir.
867
00:59:10,638 --> 00:59:12,617
Then, why did you do it, Teddy?
868
00:59:13,318 --> 00:59:15,012
I don't no, Sir.
869
00:59:15,198 --> 00:59:17,097
I don't no, Sir.
870
00:59:17,318 --> 00:59:19,296
I don't no, Sir.
871
00:59:26,557 --> 00:59:28,396
You two, go upstairs.
872
00:59:28,397 --> 00:59:30,091
Yes, Mama.
873
00:59:49,557 --> 00:59:52,810
Paula Baniszewski.
Pregnancy test, Urinalysis.
874
01:00:00,316 --> 01:00:02,215
Who is it?
875
01:00:04,116 --> 01:00:06,129
You got any cigarettes?
876
01:00:24,116 --> 01:00:26,766
Hear anything from Sylvia?
877
01:00:28,876 --> 01:00:31,332
You really like her, don't you?
878
01:00:32,196 --> 01:00:34,970
She's not good for you, Honey.
879
01:00:37,075 --> 01:00:39,531
You know, when she's gonna be back?
880
01:00:41,195 --> 01:00:46,086
Ricky, I told you, she wont
have anything to do with you.
881
01:00:46,435 --> 01:00:49,244
She's to busy with other boys.
882
01:00:50,075 --> 01:00:53,135
That's why I had to
send her to juve.
883
01:00:54,355 --> 01:00:55,890
Hand me that!
884
01:00:59,355 --> 01:01:01,208
- Get!
- Alright, I'll go.
885
01:01:07,155 --> 01:01:08,690
Here's your money.
886
01:01:08,955 --> 01:01:10,834
Thank you, baby.
887
01:01:10,835 --> 01:01:12,289
Paula...
888
01:01:13,714 --> 01:01:18,002
Honey! You are a good daughter,
I'm so proud of you.
889
01:01:18,794 --> 01:01:23,128
It don't matter what people say,
you'd be holdin' your head up high.
890
01:01:24,154 --> 01:01:26,451
We're gettin' through this.
891
01:01:27,754 --> 01:01:30,165
What about Sylvia?
892
01:01:34,154 --> 01:01:36,053
Look...
893
01:01:36,314 --> 01:01:38,566
I've been praying...
894
01:01:39,554 --> 01:01:41,593
and I think, maybe it's time
to forgive her.
895
01:01:41,594 --> 01:01:44,289
I think, she's learned her lesson.
896
01:01:44,434 --> 01:01:47,673
Their are things in life,
we have to do...
897
01:01:47,674 --> 01:01:50,050
whate'er we like it or not.
898
01:01:51,353 --> 01:01:54,447
Well, I don't want any part of it.
899
01:01:55,873 --> 01:01:57,601
Paula.
900
01:01:59,033 --> 01:02:00,952
Paula?
901
01:02:00,953 --> 01:02:04,047
Come down here and talk to me!
902
01:02:27,352 --> 01:02:30,650
Hey, Sylvia? I'm not
gonna hurt you, okay?
903
01:02:30,672 --> 01:02:33,083
I'm not gonna hurt you.
904
01:02:46,752 --> 01:02:50,210
I know what it's like
to be sick, Sylvia.
905
01:03:02,112 --> 01:03:05,171
I've been sick for so long, too.
906
01:03:07,231 --> 01:03:09,483
I can't...
907
01:03:09,591 --> 01:03:13,242
discipline my kids,
the way that I should.
908
01:03:16,431 --> 01:03:19,604
I'm punishing you I known, but...
909
01:03:19,711 --> 01:03:21,590
sometimes, when I take medicine...
910
01:03:21,591 --> 01:03:24,525
it's like, if I don't
know what I'm doing.
911
01:03:30,431 --> 01:03:33,445
And I care for you, so much.
912
01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:42,726
With Paula, the thing is...
913
01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:47,045
Paula is a lot like me.
914
01:03:49,150 --> 01:03:53,245
I had her, when I was,
just about your age.
915
01:03:58,070 --> 01:04:01,721
And then along came, Stephanie...
916
01:04:03,590 --> 01:04:06,160
and then all the others.
917
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:10,769
And...
918
01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:13,719
then John left.
919
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:23,804
And here I am, just huh...
920
01:04:26,429 --> 01:04:30,080
doing everything I can,
to keep my Family together.
921
01:04:31,549 --> 01:04:34,688
I want something better for Paula.
922
01:04:39,229 --> 01:04:41,924
There has to be something better.
923
01:04:54,069 --> 01:04:57,605
And I need to protect my children.
924
01:05:00,628 --> 01:05:03,358
Do you understand that?
925
01:05:03,948 --> 01:05:06,040
These kids...
926
01:05:06,668 --> 01:05:09,079
they're all I've got.
927
01:05:27,588 --> 01:05:29,441
Thank you, Sylvia.
928
01:05:33,147 --> 01:05:34,666
Thank you.
929
01:05:34,667 --> 01:05:37,546
Thank you, for understanding, okay?
930
01:05:37,547 --> 01:05:39,026
Thank you.
931
01:05:50,907 --> 01:05:52,007
Oh, lord.
932
01:05:52,507 --> 01:05:54,235
Okay.
933
01:05:58,187 --> 01:06:00,120
Hello, Reverend.
934
01:06:03,787 --> 01:06:05,266
I've been meaning to
come by and visit...
935
01:06:05,267 --> 01:06:07,626
but, when Paula came to the
church and talk to me...
936
01:06:07,627 --> 01:06:09,426
it just pushed me a little.
937
01:06:09,427 --> 01:06:12,759
Now, what's that girl
been bothering you with?
938
01:06:15,066 --> 01:06:18,785
Well, she's concerned about you
and the whole house.
939
01:06:18,786 --> 01:06:22,745
And, huh... there's something else.
940
01:06:22,946 --> 01:06:25,562
I think, Paula may be pregnant.
941
01:06:25,706 --> 01:06:28,685
Now, I'm prepared to offer
what support I can...
942
01:06:28,686 --> 01:06:30,665
but, I can't speak for
the entire congregation.
943
01:06:30,666 --> 01:06:32,265
Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you...
944
01:06:32,266 --> 01:06:36,425
but, it's a vicious lie and rumor...
945
01:06:36,426 --> 01:06:38,345
spread by that Likens' girl.
946
01:06:38,346 --> 01:06:39,465
Gertrude...
947
01:06:39,466 --> 01:06:41,305
Paula, talked to me herself.
948
01:06:41,306 --> 01:06:42,705
Well, Reverend,
I don't understand that.
949
01:06:42,706 --> 01:06:44,465
I'll try to get to the bottom
of that with Paula...
950
01:06:44,466 --> 01:06:47,944
but Sylvia has been a very bad
influence on her...
951
01:06:47,945 --> 01:06:50,024
since she came in to my house.
952
01:06:50,025 --> 01:06:51,784
And I have...
953
01:06:51,785 --> 01:06:54,224
I just can not
discipline that girl.
954
01:06:54,225 --> 01:06:56,624
<i>Well, she did mention,
Sylvia is around...</i>
955
01:06:56,625 --> 01:06:58,944
but wasn't clear, she said
there were some problems...
956
01:06:58,945 --> 01:07:01,384
and I haven't seen Sylvia,
in church in weeks...
957
01:07:01,385 --> 01:07:04,080
so I thought, I just should
sit down and talk with her.
958
01:07:04,265 --> 01:07:07,199
I'm afraid, I had to
send her to juvenile.
959
01:07:07,425 --> 01:07:10,704
I just could not handle that girl.
960
01:07:10,705 --> 01:07:12,264
I caught her stealing from me...
961
01:07:12,265 --> 01:07:13,664
Have you spoken with
her parents about this?
962
01:07:13,665 --> 01:07:16,024
I tried, I, huh... I wrote
them, I've called...
963
01:07:16,025 --> 01:07:18,344
I haven't gotten a responds.
964
01:07:18,345 --> 01:07:19,984
Honestly, now I can understand...
965
01:07:19,985 --> 01:07:22,024
why they just dropped
her with me.
966
01:07:22,025 --> 01:07:23,344
I see.
967
01:07:23,345 --> 01:07:24,943
I just can go by the
juvenile center...
968
01:07:24,944 --> 01:07:27,023
and speak to Sylvia myself.
969
01:07:27,024 --> 01:07:28,903
I'll try to arrange that.
970
01:07:28,904 --> 01:07:31,023
- Hi, uncle Bill.
- Hello, Reverend.
971
01:07:31,024 --> 01:07:32,923
Hey, kids.
972
01:07:32,984 --> 01:07:35,783
Why don't you take
little Kenny, please!
973
01:07:35,784 --> 01:07:38,063
We can continue this
discussion later.
974
01:07:38,064 --> 01:07:40,077
Thank you, Reverend.
975
01:07:44,864 --> 01:07:47,183
I'll see you on Sunday then.
976
01:07:47,184 --> 01:07:50,103
<i>I'm excepting you in my
office before the end of the week.</i>
977
01:07:50,104 --> 01:07:52,401
We need to talk about this.
978
01:07:52,624 --> 01:07:54,023
Sure, Reverend.
979
01:07:54,024 --> 01:07:55,877
Okay, Gertrude.
980
01:08:04,983 --> 01:08:07,075
Don't you have any sense?
981
01:08:09,423 --> 01:08:12,835
- I'm doing this for you!
- Let go off me!
982
01:08:19,423 --> 01:08:22,198
I want everybody in the basement!
983
01:08:27,783 --> 01:08:29,382
You know why you're here.
984
01:08:29,383 --> 01:08:31,202
Sylvia!
985
01:08:38,583 --> 01:08:41,391
Ricky, she came back.
986
01:08:41,622 --> 01:08:44,181
She came back from juvenile...
987
01:08:44,182 --> 01:08:46,513
then she started trouble again.
988
01:08:46,582 --> 01:08:48,037
Stop it!
989
01:08:49,902 --> 01:08:51,261
Johnny, hold her!
990
01:08:51,262 --> 01:08:52,741
No, please! Please!
991
01:08:52,742 --> 01:08:54,221
Hold her still!
992
01:08:54,222 --> 01:08:56,519
Sylvia, if you keep moving,
it'll only be messy.
993
01:08:57,262 --> 01:08:58,861
Light that!
994
01:08:58,862 --> 01:09:01,956
No! No! No!
995
01:09:01,957 --> 01:09:03,956
No! No! No!
996
01:09:04,262 --> 01:09:06,593
Please! Please! Please!
997
01:09:06,662 --> 01:09:08,541
- Stop it!
- Is this alright, Mama?
998
01:09:08,542 --> 01:09:10,919
Make sure it's hot.
999
01:09:12,182 --> 01:09:14,381
- I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
- You Liar!
1000
01:09:14,382 --> 01:09:16,515
- No! No!
- Hey!
1001
01:09:16,622 --> 01:09:19,316
Please no! Please!
1002
01:09:21,021 --> 01:09:23,830
You branded my daughter.
1003
01:09:24,741 --> 01:09:27,516
Now, I'm gonna brand you.
1004
01:09:35,421 --> 01:09:37,149
Ricky!
1005
01:09:37,541 --> 01:09:40,111
Come here! Finish it!
1006
01:09:42,021 --> 01:09:43,874
Gertie, I can't.
1007
01:09:44,181 --> 01:09:49,540
Ricky, she was with every boy,
but you.
1008
01:09:49,541 --> 01:09:51,793
You can't let her
get away with this.
1009
01:09:54,181 --> 01:09:56,219
Please, help me, Ricky.
1010
01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:58,039
Please! Please!
1011
01:09:58,180 --> 01:10:00,193
Good boy.
1012
01:10:01,180 --> 01:10:03,193
Ricky!
1013
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:08,634
What does it say?
1014
01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:11,870
It says: "I'm a Prostitute...
1015
01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:14,389
and proud of it".
1016
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:22,191
NO! NO! Stop it! NO!
1017
01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:37,832
Sylvia.
1018
01:10:39,539 --> 01:10:41,836
You've gotta get outta here.
1019
01:10:42,259 --> 01:10:44,018
You gotta leave.
1020
01:10:44,019 --> 01:10:46,157
You gotta get away
from here, come!
1021
01:10:52,859 --> 01:10:55,077
Oh, I can't...
1022
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:01,877
Shh...
1023
01:12:00,657 --> 01:12:02,112
Mama?
1024
01:12:04,177 --> 01:12:06,296
- You gotta get outta here!
- I don't no where to go.
1025
01:12:06,297 --> 01:12:08,016
You go find your parents.
1026
01:12:08,017 --> 01:12:09,136
And Jennie?
1027
01:12:09,137 --> 01:12:10,856
Jennie can take care of herself,
don't worry about her.
1028
01:12:10,857 --> 01:12:12,312
Paula?
1029
01:12:12,617 --> 01:12:13,896
No! No!
1030
01:12:13,897 --> 01:12:15,616
Go! Just go!
1031
01:12:15,617 --> 01:12:17,345
What're doing?
1032
01:12:17,497 --> 01:12:19,794
- Just let me go!
- Mama, stop!
1033
01:12:19,797 --> 01:12:21,936
- Stop it!
- What's going on?
1034
01:12:21,937 --> 01:12:24,189
Let's go in the house.
1035
01:12:38,376 --> 01:12:39,991
Sylvia!
1036
01:12:40,256 --> 01:12:43,095
Please, please don't hurt me!
1037
01:12:43,096 --> 01:12:44,775
No, no, no, no,
I'm not gonna hurt.
1038
01:12:44,776 --> 01:12:46,655
I swear to God.
I promise, I promise.
1039
01:12:46,656 --> 01:12:47,855
Look, I'm sorry.
1040
01:12:47,856 --> 01:12:49,855
I didn't know, what the hell
I was doing, alright?
1041
01:12:49,856 --> 01:12:51,935
But, you gotta believe me, please!
1042
01:12:51,936 --> 01:12:53,585
Please!
1043
01:12:54,216 --> 01:12:55,535
You wanna get outta here?
1044
01:12:55,536 --> 01:12:57,495
You wanna go? Let's go.
1045
01:12:57,496 --> 01:12:58,815
Come on.
1046
01:12:58,816 --> 01:13:00,715
Come on now, you're alright.
1047
01:13:05,295 --> 01:13:06,934
Where're we going?
1048
01:13:06,935 --> 01:13:08,709
I don't know.
1049
01:13:09,215 --> 01:13:12,513
Police? You wanna go to the Police?
We can tell'm everything.
1050
01:13:12,615 --> 01:13:14,294
I just wanna go to my mom.
1051
01:13:14,295 --> 01:13:15,989
Where's your mama?
1052
01:13:16,455 --> 01:13:18,614
I think, she's in Portage.
1053
01:13:18,615 --> 01:13:20,707
We're going to Portage.
1054
01:13:22,175 --> 01:13:23,630
Damn it!
1055
01:13:30,575 --> 01:13:32,584
- Ricky?
- Oh my God!
1056
01:13:32,585 --> 01:13:34,384
We're going! We're going!
1057
01:13:57,654 --> 01:13:59,587
I'll come with you.
1058
01:13:59,974 --> 01:14:02,271
No, you gotta get back.
1059
01:14:04,814 --> 01:14:08,829
You gotta get back to Jennie, and
make sure nothing happens to her.
1060
01:14:11,414 --> 01:14:13,984
I wont let her out of my site.
1061
01:14:15,174 --> 01:14:17,072
Thank you, Ricky.
1062
01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:00,867
Daddy?
1063
01:15:02,692 --> 01:15:04,466
Cookie?
1064
01:15:04,692 --> 01:15:06,091
What're you doing here?
1065
01:15:06,092 --> 01:15:07,741
Dad!
1066
01:15:08,132 --> 01:15:11,066
Oh, my...
What happened to you?
1067
01:15:20,092 --> 01:15:22,071
Oh, my God.
1068
01:15:23,092 --> 01:15:25,025
Oh, my God.
1069
01:15:29,212 --> 01:15:31,224
They did this to you?
1070
01:15:34,691 --> 01:15:37,227
I'm so... so sorry.
1071
01:15:37,611 --> 01:15:40,090
I'm just so sorry,
I left you there.
1072
01:15:40,091 --> 01:15:41,690
We spoke to Jennie,
on the phone last week.
1073
01:15:41,691 --> 01:15:43,290
She said everything was fine.
1074
01:15:43,291 --> 01:15:45,702
She's scared of her.
1075
01:15:45,931 --> 01:15:47,830
We gotta go back.
1076
01:15:50,411 --> 01:15:52,708
Let's just talk in the car.
1077
01:15:52,851 --> 01:15:55,865
Everything’s gonna be
taking care of, Cookie.
1078
01:15:56,011 --> 01:15:58,183
You're with your family now.
1079
01:15:58,571 --> 01:16:02,268
Oh, Honey.
Mama's here now.
1080
01:16:07,771 --> 01:16:11,068
Hey, Honey! We're here.
1081
01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:26,209
You stay here, Cookie.
1082
01:16:26,210 --> 01:16:28,143
No, huh...
1083
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:32,466
I gotta do this.
1084
01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:36,542
I'm just gonna go in.
1085
01:17:06,769 --> 01:17:09,208
She's not breathing, mama.
1086
01:17:09,209 --> 01:17:12,128
She'll wake up, okay?
Don't worry, son.
1087
01:17:12,129 --> 01:17:14,108
Wake up, please!
1088
01:17:14,249 --> 01:17:15,528
Stephanie?
1089
01:17:15,529 --> 01:17:17,888
- She's not breathing!
- She's faking it.
1090
01:17:17,889 --> 01:17:20,528
Somebody, please do something!
Because she's not breathing!
1091
01:17:20,529 --> 01:17:23,007
- She's faking it.
- Johnny, bring that water?
1092
01:17:23,008 --> 01:17:25,487
- Bring me some water, baby.
- Give me it!
1093
01:17:25,488 --> 01:17:26,687
She okay?
1094
01:17:26,688 --> 01:17:28,367
Please, somebody,
she's not breathing!
1095
01:17:28,368 --> 01:17:31,087
Liar, liar, liar, liar...
1096
01:17:31,088 --> 01:17:32,967
Mama, she's not faking it!
1097
01:17:32,968 --> 01:17:35,847
She came to my house,
and just told lies.
1098
01:17:35,848 --> 01:17:37,767
Stephanie, what's wrong?
1099
01:17:37,768 --> 01:17:39,527
Mama, we gotta do something!
1100
01:17:39,528 --> 01:17:42,383
Sweetie, mama, she's...
1101
01:17:43,008 --> 01:17:45,207
Please, Sylvia, please breath.
1102
01:17:45,208 --> 01:17:47,187
Sylvia?
1103
01:17:51,768 --> 01:17:54,087
Shirley, she'll be okay,
she'll be okay.
1104
01:17:54,088 --> 01:17:56,487
Somebody's gotta do something!
She's not breathing!
1105
01:17:56,488 --> 01:17:59,627
Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'!
1106
01:17:59,928 --> 01:18:01,926
She just lays there.
1107
01:18:01,927 --> 01:18:03,166
Oh, my god.
1108
01:18:03,167 --> 01:18:05,020
Ricky, do something!
1109
01:18:05,367 --> 01:18:06,982
Look out!
1110
01:18:07,287 --> 01:18:09,166
Here, try this.
1111
01:18:09,167 --> 01:18:10,806
Sylvia! Wake up!
1112
01:18:10,807 --> 01:18:12,166
- Come on, breath!
- Paula...
1113
01:18:12,167 --> 01:18:15,126
you go get Andy, baby,
he'll know what to do, okay?
1114
01:18:15,127 --> 01:18:16,766
Wake up, Sylvia!
1115
01:18:16,767 --> 01:18:18,686
She'll be okay,
she's just faking it.
1116
01:18:18,687 --> 01:18:20,246
Please, Sylvia, breath.
1117
01:18:20,247 --> 01:18:21,726
She's cold.
1118
01:18:21,727 --> 01:18:23,366
Somebody better call the police!
1119
01:18:23,367 --> 01:18:25,206
Don't call the police.
1120
01:18:25,207 --> 01:18:26,981
Just go!
1121
01:18:27,967 --> 01:18:30,166
She's not dying!
1122
01:18:30,167 --> 01:18:31,926
I'll go get more water,
colder this time!
1123
01:18:31,927 --> 01:18:34,543
Babies', come here...
1124
01:18:36,767 --> 01:18:38,925
She's lying, baby, She's just...
1125
01:18:38,926 --> 01:18:41,496
Mama, she's not faking it!
1126
01:18:50,206 --> 01:18:51,645
I need the police!
1127
01:18:51,646 --> 01:18:54,216
<i>Yeah, there maybe a
death girl in a house.</i>
1128
01:19:02,006 --> 01:19:03,575
She's dead.
1129
01:19:03,806 --> 01:19:05,705
Jesus Christ, Gertie.
1130
01:19:14,726 --> 01:19:16,404
What's the problem?
1131
01:19:16,405 --> 01:19:19,339
Get me out of here,
I'll tell you everything.
1132
01:19:23,965 --> 01:19:26,204
Jennie, did you ever see...
1133
01:19:26,205 --> 01:19:29,344
Sylvia do anything,
to Mrs. Baniszewski?
1134
01:19:30,805 --> 01:19:34,058
No. I didn't see anything.
1135
01:19:34,605 --> 01:19:37,524
Did you ever see her
do anything, to Paula?
1136
01:19:37,525 --> 01:19:39,378
No.
1137
01:19:39,965 --> 01:19:43,004
Did you ever see her do anything,
to Johnny Baniszewski?
1138
01:19:43,005 --> 01:19:44,824
No.
1139
01:19:47,365 --> 01:19:52,575
Jennie, you saw your
sister being hit...
1140
01:19:53,164 --> 01:19:55,163
beaten, struck.
1141
01:19:55,164 --> 01:19:58,132
Why did you not call the police?
1142
01:19:58,244 --> 01:20:02,283
Well, huh... Gertie dreaded me,
that if I told anybody...
1143
01:20:02,284 --> 01:20:04,854
I'd get the same treatment,
than Sylvia was getting.
1144
01:20:05,644 --> 01:20:08,658
You could have told anyone,
up and down on the street.
1145
01:20:09,124 --> 01:20:13,378
I was scared, and I guess,
I just...
1146
01:20:13,604 --> 01:20:17,494
did what she told me to do.
I wish, I hadn't.
1147
01:20:22,084 --> 01:20:24,495
Did you ever see Sylvia cry?
1148
01:20:31,003 --> 01:20:33,682
They said, she didn't
have any feelings...
1149
01:20:33,683 --> 01:20:36,333
but... I knew better.
1150
01:20:37,923 --> 01:20:41,256
I've seen her cry before.
1151
01:20:42,043 --> 01:20:46,322
I imagine, the reason
that she didn't cry, was...
1152
01:20:46,323 --> 01:20:49,576
because she didn't
have enough water.
1153
01:20:51,723 --> 01:20:54,691
<i>The trial lasted 24 days.</i>
1154
01:20:54,763 --> 01:20:57,842
Gertrude was the last
one to take the stand.
1155
01:20:57,843 --> 01:21:03,258
What was your physical condition
in July and August of last year?
1156
01:21:05,563 --> 01:21:08,098
Pretty run down, physically.
1157
01:21:08,642 --> 01:21:11,041
Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally.
1158
01:21:11,042 --> 01:21:13,055
What do you mean?
1159
01:21:14,042 --> 01:21:17,694
If you got as many children...
1160
01:21:17,882 --> 01:21:22,201
around your home,
all the time, as I do...
1161
01:21:22,202 --> 01:21:24,361
arguing and carrying on...
1162
01:21:24,362 --> 01:21:27,641
you'd be pretty upset,
mentally and emotionally too.
1163
01:21:27,642 --> 01:21:29,801
What medicine did you take?
1164
01:21:29,802 --> 01:21:33,441
Phenobarbital Sulfate,
and Coricidin.
1165
01:21:33,442 --> 01:21:36,281
I was trying to take
care of myself...
1166
01:21:36,282 --> 01:21:39,342
because I could not
afford to go to a doctor.
1167
01:21:39,562 --> 01:21:43,761
<i>Well, then, getting to
the 1st, week of September.</i>
1168
01:21:43,762 --> 01:21:46,760
Was there any change in your
physical condition...
1169
01:21:46,761 --> 01:21:49,092
or in the condition of that house?
1170
01:21:52,401 --> 01:21:54,254
No, Sir.
1171
01:21:54,481 --> 01:21:56,160
<i>What about the 3rd. week
of September...</i>
1172
01:21:56,161 --> 01:21:57,600
do you remember that?
1173
01:21:57,601 --> 01:22:00,520
You mean anything specific that
might happened in September?
1174
01:22:00,521 --> 01:22:02,760
Yes, anything specific.
1175
01:22:02,761 --> 01:22:04,640
The kids were fighting a lot.
1176
01:22:04,641 --> 01:22:07,211
The kids were fighting a lot?
1177
01:22:07,601 --> 01:22:10,400
My children and the
neighbor children...
1178
01:22:10,401 --> 01:22:13,000
were coming in,
and fight things over it.
1179
01:22:13,001 --> 01:22:17,480
My children fighting with other
children, so on and so fort.
1180
01:22:17,481 --> 01:22:20,017
What did you do,
when that was happening?
1181
01:22:21,681 --> 01:22:24,694
I did not see this, fighting then.
1182
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,959
I was barely able to stay up at all.
1183
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,338
I did not even feel
like getting up.
1184
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,779
Did you have any knowledge,
of any mistreatment...
1185
01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:36,698
going on with Sylvia?
1186
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,319
No, Sir.
1187
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,211
Did you commit any indignity,
making marks on that girls body?
1188
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,079
No, Sir.
1189
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,775
Do you know, how those
wounds, got on her body?
1190
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,399
No, Sir.
1191
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,539
You're telling the Jury,
you don't know who did it?
1192
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,492
No.
1193
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:03,530
Did you hear the testimony of Jennie?
1194
01:23:03,959 --> 01:23:05,598
Yes, I did.
1195
01:23:05,599 --> 01:23:07,998
Did you hear, some of
your children state...
1196
01:23:07,999 --> 01:23:11,775
that before Sylvia died,
you started branding this girl?
1197
01:23:13,879 --> 01:23:15,573
Yes, I heard that.
1198
01:23:15,679 --> 01:23:17,498
Did they all lie?
1199
01:23:23,999 --> 01:23:26,158
That is right.
1200
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,298
The fact is you're lying, isn't it?
1201
01:23:29,799 --> 01:23:32,051
No, Sir.
1202
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:37,037
Did you hear John Baniszewski state...
1203
01:23:37,038 --> 01:23:41,213
that you burned her,
with matches and cigarettes?
1204
01:23:42,758 --> 01:23:44,757
Yes, I heard that statement.
1205
01:23:44,758 --> 01:23:47,135
Did he tell the truth?
1206
01:23:51,398 --> 01:23:54,037
He was not telling the truth.
1207
01:23:54,038 --> 01:23:56,096
No.
1208
01:23:57,958 --> 01:24:00,688
You're saying, you did not do it?
1209
01:24:01,598 --> 01:24:02,957
That's right.
1210
01:24:02,958 --> 01:24:04,597
You were in bed,
a great deal of the time...
1211
01:24:04,598 --> 01:24:07,397
when the children were doing things,
you did not know, they were doing.
1212
01:24:07,398 --> 01:24:09,957
I imagine they were doing
a great deal of things...
1213
01:24:09,958 --> 01:24:11,277
that I did not know.
1214
01:24:11,278 --> 01:24:13,416
Why did Johnny lie?
1215
01:24:15,197 --> 01:24:18,236
I imagine, he is a pretty
scared little boy.
1216
01:24:18,237 --> 01:24:19,965
Are you scared?
1217
01:24:22,037 --> 01:24:26,086
I've been scared by a lot
of things, for a long time.
1218
01:24:26,877 --> 01:24:30,276
She sacrificed me,
to protect her children...
1219
01:24:30,277 --> 01:24:33,735
and sacrificed them,
to protect herself.
1220
01:24:54,796 --> 01:24:57,048
Will the accused, please rise!
1221
01:25:08,916 --> 01:25:12,115
We, the Jury, find
Gertrude Baniszewski...
1222
01:25:12,116 --> 01:25:14,275
guilty of 1st. degree murder...
1223
01:25:14,276 --> 01:25:16,971
sentencing her to life in prison.
1224
01:25:25,676 --> 01:25:28,053
The case got a lot of attention...
1225
01:25:29,355 --> 01:25:32,050
it even made Time Magazine.
1226
01:25:37,555 --> 01:25:39,074
And most people started talking...
1227
01:25:39,075 --> 01:25:41,770
about things, they used to ignore.
1228
01:25:42,955 --> 01:25:44,154
Thank you.
1229
01:25:44,155 --> 01:25:46,434
The others, were tried later.
1230
01:25:46,435 --> 01:25:48,394
Paula was found guilty
as an accomplice...
1231
01:25:48,395 --> 01:25:50,474
and served a couple of years.
1232
01:25:50,475 --> 01:25:53,967
She had that Baby,
and named it, Gertrude.
1233
01:25:54,155 --> 01:25:56,434
Johnny was convicted too.
1234
01:25:56,435 --> 01:25:57,874
He was the youngest inmate...
1235
01:25:57,875 --> 01:26:00,954
in the history, of the
Indiana State Reformatory.
1236
01:26:00,955 --> 01:26:03,354
He would later become
a real Minister.
1237
01:26:03,355 --> 01:26:05,447
one way of telling
the story, I guess.
1238
01:26:05,795 --> 01:26:08,193
Ricky Hobbs, was found
guilty of man-slaughter...
1239
01:26:08,194 --> 01:26:11,313
he served time at the reformatory.
1240
01:26:11,314 --> 01:26:15,409
<i>He died at age 21,
of lung cancer.</i>
1241
01:26:16,314 --> 01:26:19,009
Coy, also served a couple of years...
1242
01:26:19,154 --> 01:26:20,913
He went on with a life of crime...
1243
01:26:20,914 --> 01:26:23,450
after he got released from prison.
1244
01:26:23,794 --> 01:26:27,127
I don't know, what happened,
to any of the rest of them.
1245
01:26:27,874 --> 01:26:29,753
Mom und Dad, went back on Tour...
1246
01:26:29,754 --> 01:26:33,113
<i>and left Jennie, with the
District Attorney and his Family.</i>
1247
01:26:33,114 --> 01:26:35,570
They helped her get back on her feet.
1248
01:26:38,394 --> 01:26:41,673
<i>Gertrude served 20 years
of her life sentence.</i>
1249
01:26:41,674 --> 01:26:45,290
She was released on parole in 1985.
1250
01:26:46,033 --> 01:26:49,072
Before she died 5 years later...
1251
01:26:49,073 --> 01:26:52,770
she took responsibility, for
everything that had happened.
1252
01:27:06,353 --> 01:27:08,525
I'm so sorry.
1253
01:27:18,793 --> 01:27:20,646
And me?
1254
01:27:22,152 --> 01:27:25,007
I returned to the carnival.
1255
01:27:25,432 --> 01:27:28,400
The only place, I always felt save.
1256
01:27:31,232 --> 01:27:33,711
Reverend Bill, used to say:
1257
01:27:33,712 --> 01:27:37,443
"For every situation,
God always has a plan".
1258
01:27:39,632 --> 01:27:43,920
I guess, I'm still trying
to figure out, what that plan was.
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